Ideas for eRoll improvement

[redbucket]

Love my eRoll. I seem to always wish it could be a little different, though. What would you change about the design, if you were the dude behind the desk telling engineers to make your vision a reality?

My big one: Add a second charging connection to the charger/battery, a small circle that you can stick the eRoll in without lifting the cover. When the charger is sitting on a desk, it would be used in the style of an ash tray.

 

[bombastinator]

Love my eRoll. I seem to always wish it could be a little different, though. What would you change about the design, if you were the dude behind the desk telling engineers to make your vision a reality? My big one: Add a second charging connection to the charger/battery, a small circle that you can stick the eRoll in without lifting the cover. When the charger is sitting on a desk, it would be used in the style of an ash tray.

well there are pcc take apart instructions on the Web, and the case Cover is just acrylic. There doesn't look to be a heck of a lot of room in there though. Also I suspect joy tech is very very protective of those connectors. much the way apple is with theirs. even if they wouldn't sue you for trying, it could require a case redesign. unpowered though is probably easy. Just take the cover off and if you can find a place big enough, just drill a hole.

 

[bombastinator]

1) a desktop charger pen holder style. 2) an ego c to 510 adapter 3) sell pcc parts separately so folks can customize their case. 4) produce an automatic battery or mod with a replaceable vacuum sensor. NO ONE has done this yet, that I know of, and it is the main reason folks eventually abandon auto systems. The vacuum sensor is simply too fragile in the environment it is in to be useful. people sell epipes with buttons instead of autos, and no one buys them because the whole point of a pipe is to hang it in your mouth. autos smoke just like pipes. it would be perfect. NO ONE is going to drop $350 on a mod that very easily die in a day or two. what's most annoying to me is how easy it would be to do. those switches look just like plain old ceramic disk capacitors covered in blue mesh plastic. Just a put in a couple of bread board socket holes and you're golden.

 

[Cha0s13]

A slightly longer tank to hold a little more eliquid would be awesome, and slightly larger pcc to hold a few tanks. would make a perfect package for me.

 

[mommyofdoom]

The only thing I'd like to change is tank size.

Although I don't know if I'd want the eRoll to be slightly longer... Or the same size overall with a (slightly) smaller battery...

I don't know, the more I think about it the more I like it just the way it is. lol

 

[Faylool]

Just the tank. It has to be see thru. But maybe a window and the rest less "clinical" looking. I adore the eRoll

 

[mommyofdoom]

Just the tank. It has to be see thru. But maybe a window and the rest less "clinical" looking. I adore the eRoll

There are clear cartridges for it. The problem is, everyone only seems to stock the black ones.

The only two clear ones I have are the ones that came with my eRoll. The black aren't too bad, though. I can see through them fairly easily. Then again, I tend to steer toward darker juices.

 

[bombastinator]

Hence the 510 adapter. A ce2xl is the same length and holds 1.2ml

The egoc system got pounded into the dirt by ce2s in the marketplace years ago. Even the smok nano is better.

Joye made what sounds to be a killer app with that battery though and it makes up for the not so great old tech atty.

 

[propagandax]

The only thing I'd like to change is tank size.

Although I don't know if I'd want the eRoll to be slightly longer... Or the same size overall with a (slightly) smaller battery...

I don't know, the more I think about it the more I like it just the way it is. lol

I agree. Bigger tank would be great. I would even be ok if they had to shrink the battery to 60mah.

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[mecocina]

A wider case to hold spare attys and extra battery, then it would be perfect imo.

 

[bombastinator]

As it happens, mone just came in. Takinng a good look at the thing, it would be very little trouble to get a ce2xl onto one of these. When I get a dead atty i'll give it a shot.

 

[peraspera]

I would like a separate matching case that either fits on a keychain or clips onto the PCC case which would hold an extra battery and some juice cartridges. A lighter weight battery similar to the NJOY King would also be nice.

 

[melmak]

I would like to see someway to carry a couple of extra cartridges and I would also like to have the air hole moved a little bit up as it seems to be at the balancing spot of the ecig and when holding the ecig my finger blocks the hole, or I just need to learn to hold it different then a analog. (or just cut the fur on my paws) lol

 

[Faylool]

I need to rant. I just cant believe when i recommend eRoll I get opposition! What the deal is? Is it $20 more than the other cig a likes? I mean, i have tried a whole lot of different things and my little eRolls just keep being my favorite. I have Reo, RBAs, pyrex tanks and cartos of various types, dripping atties of multiple types 501s, 901s, 306s and nothing beats my sharp little feisty eRoll set ups. Except when i need to vape WTA, which is a tad too thick for it to work the way i vape. And i vape. I have three batteries going round and round and its how it is. A little bit PITA but once you get used to the routine. I mean. Yes a RBA delivers the goods better so I drip or bottom feed my WTA juices and thats special. What am i doing wrong? I say i recommend eRoll without reservation as the best cig a like and bomb....ill try this ill try that. Am i too aggressive? Too forwarda. Is it because im a chick. And old one? Or what? Man. Just needed to rant. Stubborn people if its about the extra $20. Which more than gets caught up with when you hit on the clean burning juices that dont clog atties. My lime mix with bavarian creme and some malty burns clean. Ive been using the same three atties for three weeks of about 3 ml a day of the clean burning juices. $4.00 an atty. hmmm $6-$9 bucks a pack of cigs....so all the sudden we have to save $100s of dollars vaping but we spent soooo much on the smokes. Oh well. Rant over. We can improve on eRoll by helping with user education and why the tank atty system is better.

 

[Erncig]

- Smaller circumference
- Lighter
- Orange light
- Soft Filter
- More cigarette looking
- Larger tank

 

[bombastinator]

I need to rant. I just cant believe when i recommend eRoll I get opposition! What the deal is? Is it $20 more than the other cig a likes? I mean, i have tried a whole lot of different things and my little eRolls just keep being my favorite. I have Reo, RBAs, pyrex tanks and cartos of various types, dripping atties of multiple types 501s, 901s, 306s and nothing beats my sharp little feisty eRoll set ups. Except when i need to vape WTA, which is a tad too thick for it to work the way i vape. And i vape. I have three batteries going round and round and its how it is. A little bit PITA but once you get used to the routine. I mean. Yes a RBA delivers the goods better so I drip or bottom feed my WTA juices and thats special. What am i doing wrong? I say i recommend eRoll without reservation as the best cig a like and bomb....ill try this ill try that. Am i too aggressive? Too forwarda. Is it because im a chick. And old one? Or what? Man. Just needed to rant. Stubborn people if its about the extra $20. Which more than gets caught up with when you hit on the clean burning juices that dont clog atties. My lime mix with bavarian creme and some malty burns clean. Ive been using the same three atties for three weeks of about 3 ml a day of the clean burning juices. $4.00 an atty. hmmm $6-$9 bucks a pack of cigs....so all the sudden we have to save $100s of dollars vaping but we spent soooo much on the smokes. Oh well. Rant over. We can improve on eRoll by helping with user education and why the tank atty system is better.

Well some of the egos do if you don't mind the form factor. I myself am still massively impressed with it as a mini. If you hate the ego c though, and many do, you're SOL with an eroll.
For myself you gimme a ce2 or smoke nano with an ego c connector on the bottom I'd be all over it.

The magic is the batteries and arguably the ego c connector, which does make the thing both lighter and shorter. The tank part of the ego c has always been the worst bit. It's leaky and wastes incredible amounts of space. I cut the top half off one of my tanks and it smoked better than it did before. And the thing is STILL half wasted space.

Maybe they could figure out some sort of kanger style solution or something.

At the end of the day though, if the battery proves unlike all automatic predecessors to actually be reliable it is hands down the best mini on the market today even with the iffy atty.

 

[bombastinator]

I need to rant. I just cant believe when i recommend eRoll I get opposition! What the deal is? Is it $20 more than the other cig a likes? I mean, i have tried a whole lot of different things and my little eRolls just keep being my favorite. I have Reo, RBAs, pyrex tanks and cartos of various types, dripping atties of multiple types 501s, 901s, 306s and nothing beats my sharp little feisty eRoll set ups. Except when i need to vape WTA, which is a tad too thick for it to work the way i vape. And i vape. I have three batteries going round and round and its how it is. A little bit PITA but once you get used to the routine. I mean. Yes a RBA delivers the goods better so I drip or bottom feed my WTA juices and thats special. What am i doing wrong? I say i recommend eRoll without reservation as the best cig a like and bomb....ill try this ill try that. Am i too aggressive? Too forwarda. Is it because im a chick. And old one? Or what? Man. Just needed to rant. Stubborn people if its about the extra $20. Which more than gets caught up with when you hit on the clean burning juices that dont clog atties. My lime mix with bavarian creme and some malty burns clean. Ive been using the same three atties for three weeks of about 3 ml a day of the clean burning juices. $4.00 an atty. hmmm $6-$9 bucks a pack of cigs....so all the sudden we have to save $100s of dollars vaping but we spent soooo much on the smokes. Oh well. Rant over. We can improve on eRoll by helping with user education and why the tank atty system is better.

Well some of the egos do if you don't mind the form factor. I myself am still massively impressed with it as a mini. If you hate the ego c though, and many do, you're SOL with an eroll.
For myself you gimme a ce2 or smoke nano with an ego c connector on the bottom I'd be all over it.

The magic is the batteries and arguably the ego c connector, which does make the thing both lighter and shorter. The tank part of the ego c has always been the worst bit. It's leaky and wastes incredible amounts of space. I cut the top half off one of my tanks and it smoked better than it did before. And the thing is STILL half wasted space.

Maybe they could figure out some sort of kanger style solution or something.

At the end of the day though, if the battery proves unlike all automatic predecessors to actually be reliable it is hands down the best mini on the market today even with the iffy atty.

 

[bombastinator]

Hmm.. Just had one of my own actually.

Don't change the atty, change the tank and cone. You could even hand build one.

The way the ego c works, is unlike every other atty the thing feeds in through the center and out through the sides. All the others are reversed.
This probably has some airflow advantages but is incredibly space inefficient because you need like 6 times as much space to vent it. To make it worse that plastic is very thick compared to metal, and there's a lot of it.

1.) Remove the cap from the tank and toss the rest.

2.) get either a longer tube of the same diameter and use a nail to put new dimples on it, or use the original cone. This would mean the cig would hold maybe less than it even does now, bit would be much shorter.

3.) pull out the spike and toss it.

4.) Cannibalize the central tube and top caps from a ce2 and find a rubber tank caps from one of the higher quality economy c/the tanks.

5.) cut small slots or notches in the edges of the caps (but not the ce2 top cap or the plastic tank cap) so that a wick will fit in them snugly.

6.) put either the ce2 caps or the ego caps in to the cone tube. One of the mouth end to serve as tank seal.

7.) get some wick and wrap it half way round the gasket cap through the notches, and push it into the atty side till it hits the internal stope to serve as gasket (stop will likely have to be force mouth ward to make room)

8.) take the ce2 tube and run it through the central holes in the caps.

You now have a sealed tube within a tube with a loop of wick hanging down. When this is attached to the spike less head, the central tube will serve as the vent. The loop will hang down against the coil and serve as the spike.

Poof! Kanger style! *dances like a Korean pop star *

 

[redbucket]

Another thought, though it would drag down the battery life a little and add cost of course: A freaking clock on the cover. I can't tell you how many times I take it out of my pocket thinking it's my phone to check the time.

 

[EricDykstra]

I need to rant. I just cant believe when i recommend eRoll I get opposition! What the deal is? Is it $20 more than the other cig a likes? I mean, i have tried a whole lot of different things and my little eRolls just keep being my favorite. I have Reo, RBAs, pyrex tanks and cartos of various types, dripping atties of multiple types 501s, 901s, 306s and nothing beats my sharp little feisty eRoll set ups. Except when i need to vape WTA, which is a tad too thick for it to work the way i vape. And i vape. I have three batteries going round and round and its how it is. A little bit PITA but once you get used to the routine. I mean. Yes a RBA delivers the goods better so I drip or bottom feed my WTA juices and thats special. What am i doing wrong? I say i recommend eRoll without reservation as the best cig a like and bomb....ill try this ill try that. Am i too aggressive? Too forwarda. Is it because im a chick. And old one? Or what? Man. Just needed to rant. Stubborn people if its about the extra $20. Which more than gets caught up with when you hit on the clean burning juices that dont clog atties. My lime mix with bavarian creme and some malty burns clean. Ive been using the same three atties for three weeks of about 3 ml a day of the clean burning juices. $4.00 an atty. hmmm $6-$9 bucks a pack of cigs....so all the sudden we have to save $100s of dollars vaping but we spent soooo much on the smokes. Oh well. Rant over. We can improve on eRoll by helping with user education and why the tank atty system is better.

Some people have to think they have best, or cannot handle change. I don't think you are wrong at all. If you compare other products to the Eroll they really fall short when you factor size into the equation. 3-4 times the size and some still don't perform as good as the Eroll.

Funny I used to think the tanks were too small, then I got an Ecab and I find myself thinking isn't this thing empty yet. I am happy with the Eroll as is. I would like see a few of things that the Ecab has make it to the Eroll. The silicone seal inside the cone, and silicone replacement tank covers.

Edit: and a way to charge the battery without using the pcc