If You Don't Know Anything About Vaping, Don't Open a Vape Shop

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FireDragon1138

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I've had similar things happen here in Orlando. 3/4 of the vape shops here are just people trying to capitalize on a trend. The prices are ridiculous (especially e-liquid), and the staff not very knowledgeable.

I wanted to get some 510 atomizers to use for test dripping and the occasional time I use a tank on my Ego's (sometimes it's a good way to try out flavors- I DIY a lot). So many shops are just selling clearomizers and that's all they know about (and they call them "atomizers" usually, leading to confusion). Most smokers are just going into these shops and getting knockoff Ego's and CE4's and are done with hardware, so that's my guess what's going on.
 

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My experience with B&M vape stores is not the staff working at them ... but there high prices.

The last shop I went to raped me on the price of a Vision Spinner battery. I needed it 'right now', so I paid there high asking price.

From that point on, I only buy off the internet after looking for the best price online.

Sure it's nice to support your local businesses, but I don't like there prices on most items ... at least in my area.
 

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My experience with B&M vape stores is not the staff working at them ... but there high prices.

The last shop I went to raped me on the price of a Vision Spinner battery. I needed it 'right now', so I paid there high asking price.

From that point on, I only buy off the internet after looking for the best price online.

Sure it's nice to support your local businesses, but I don't like there prices on most items ... at least in my area.

I'll have to say again that I'm lucky. Stormy (Cloudburst on ECF) sells her products at the same rate (plus flat rate USPS mail price) as her online store (Stormy's Vapor Cellar). To me, online cost + the mail shipping price is fair. I get it now and for the same price as waiting for the postman.
 

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The equipment you choose for your vape is irrelevant. Your attitude towards someone unfamiliar with it is.

So a person who runs a shop devoted solely to a very specific hobby/activity shouldn't be expected to have any specialized knowledge about the products they sell? Are you even serious?

Suppose you went into a hardware store and the proprietor couldn't tell you the difference between a fence post and a 2x4. Would you be a "lumber snob" for thinking that was kind of funny and sad?
 

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Perhaps the shop owners could have spent an extra week doing some research before opening up. A few days reading would provide one with enough knowledge to get started in a vaping business. Since they couldn't be bothered to know their products, I don't think the op should have been bothered to educate them. Might sound rotten, but sometimes being called out is enough to open your eyes to your ignorance and motivate you to do something about it.

Hopefully those shop owners felt embarrassed and went home to educate themselves so it doesn't happen again.

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The equipment you choose for your vape is irrelevant. Your attitude towards someone unfamiliar with it is.

An unfamiliar user is one thing, but a retailer that is unfamiliar with their own stock and products?

Perhaps you make excuses for such obvious incompetence, but I sure won't. If you're opening a business it is YOUR JOB to know what you're talking about and doing. If you aren't capable of doing your job then you don't deserve to have one. Ignorant store owners only hurt the buyer by selling poor products and giving bad advice. They don't deserve sympathy, they deserve to be run out of business before they hurt someone.


Let me ask you this....

You're surely familiar with what happens when you use the wrong charger with an eGo, right?

Would you trust this couple to sell a charger to your wife/husband/child to be used in your home where your own personal property could end up damaged or destroyed?
 

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Clearomizer heads and cartomizers I'd expect at most any random vape shop.

Joytech type A Atomizer heads? The most common replacement part on the face of the Earth? Today? You serious? Sounds more like a mall kiosk starter kit type deal, you dig? Not a common vape shop item.

Well, at least you didn't "beat the wife over her head with your all-mighty Provari." That's how the last smug B&M thread I read went down.
Type-As are the atomizers used in eGo-C/T/CC, and TBH for clearish juice and someone who wants to mouth-puff, they're way less hassle and maybe even vape better than a PT2 mini; they're just not as cleanable.

point: They should know what they are at the very least.
 

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NATE: "Yes. Atomizer heads. Joyetech, type A, normal resistance."

I've been vaping since Oct 2012 and have no clue what that is. I know what an atomizer head is, but not Type A. Nor do I know anything about resistances. I literally just adjust the volts or watts on my batteries. If it tastes burnt, ok too high. Not burnt, yay! The furthest I venture into atomizers is bridgeless for testing new juices. So I don't think this "Joyetech type A atty" is common at all. Most people walking into a b&m are going to buy iclears and Kangers or clones of them because they are casual vapers. That's not to say serious vapers don't hit up their local b&m's, but it's probably in less frequency. I think the husband and wife duo will probably do just fine. There is a huge learning curve to starting up a vape business but they'll be rebuilding coils and recommending mechs in no time. Hopefully someone has since taught them about buying direct from our Chinese overlords so they're not buying bags of rusty coils on the streets. :laugh:
 

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Did I miss something? Was the op given some dangerous information, misinformed about something, or argued with? Where was that in the post? He asked for what is now a pretty uncommon product, and they didn't know what it was. For SHAME! Lets string them up!

And I'm disregarding the bag of rusty heads part of the story. Simply too unbelievable.
 

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An unfamiliar user is one thing, but a retailer that is unfamiliar with their own stock and products?

Perhaps you make excuses for such obvious incompetence, but I sure won't. If you're opening a business it is YOUR JOB to know what you're talking about and doing. If you aren't capable of doing your job then you don't deserve to have one. Ignorant store owners only hurt the buyer by selling poor products and giving bad advice. They don't deserve sympathy, they deserve to be run out of business before they hurt someone.


Let me ask you this....

You're surely familiar with what happens when you use the wrong charger with an eGo, right?

Would you trust this couple to sell a charger to your wife/husband/child to be used in your home where your own personal property could end up damaged or destroyed?

No. I'm not familiar. What is a wrong charger for an ego? Is there an ego charger that screws into an ego that is the wrong charger for an ego? I haven't heard of that. I am familiar with the fact that any battery could be subject to failure.....

Seems the shop keepers were only unfamiliar with the individual request, and not necessarily the items they were offering for sale in their displays.

I have personally watched a shop evolve from this exact point of a limited selection of basic starter sets, to everything from T2s and Egos, to high end mechanicals and atomizers. We all started somewhere, and even the very most experienced vapers have only been doing it for a small handful of years. No one is an expert.
 

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I've had similar things happen here in Orlando. 3/4 of the vape shops here are just people trying to capitalize on a trend. The prices are ridiculous (especially e-liquid), and the staff not very knowledgeable.

I wanted to get some 510 atomizers to use for test dripping and the occasional time I use a tank on my Ego's (sometimes it's a good way to try out flavors- I DIY a lot). So many shops are just selling clearomizers and that's all they know about (and they call them "atomizers" usually, leading to confusion). Most smokers are just going into these shops and getting knockoff Ego's and CE4's and are done with hardware, so that's my guess what's going on.

A clearomizer IS an atomizer. So is a cartomizer. So is a genesis, kayfun, dripper, etc. all atomizers.
 

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...Nor do I know anything about resistances. I literally just adjust the volts or watts on my batteries. If it tastes burnt, ok too high. Not burnt, yay! The furthest I venture into atomizers is bridgeless for testing new juices. So I don't think this "Joyetech type A atty" is common at all. Most people walking into a b&m are going to buy iclears and Kangers or clones of them because they are casual vapers...

But you aren't thinking about opening a store either, rt?

FTR Joye atty's/tanks/batts are intended for the most casual of vapers.

And I'll say it again: Not even knowing about the atty that goes with the product that introduced the eGo battery is just ignorant for an owner of a store who needs to be bringing people in to vaping.
 

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A clearomizer IS an atomizer. So is a cartomizer. So is a genesis, kayfun, dripper, etc. all atomizers.
no

a clearomizer has an atomizer; a cartomizer includes an atomizer; gennys and kayfuns are tanks with rebuildable atomizers, and an RDA houses a rebuildable atomizer.

atomizers, in anything but a carto, are seperate, replaceable parts. but you know that.
 

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no

a clearomizer has an atomizer; a cartomizer includes an atomizer; gennys and kayfuns are tanks with rebuildable atomizers, and an RDA houses a rebuildable atomizer.

atomizers, in anything but a carto, are seperate, replaceable parts. but you know that.

Lets call this hair split.
 
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