IF you had a choice ??

[BuzzKill]

Would you rather have control over the power or HIT of your E-cig or PV or just use a different OHMS ATTY like a LR or HV atty ???

I am curious because so many people use LR attys to get a better HIT or TH , IMO this is bad for batteries it over stresses them and they die faster ( the Ego type battery is not designed for 3-4 amps of current draw from what I have found out , nobody states their specs so ! )

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I have two mods and use mostly LR attys and cartos. I only recently tried HV vaping and it brings out the flavor of some juices and makes others taste burnt. I'm not a big fan of strong TH, but I wanted warmer vapor and better taste. I find that HV vaping drains my batteries faster than 3.7V with a LR atty.

 

[bruther]

As long as I have an actual 3.7 volts, all I need is the right atty. Tried 5V, didn't like it. Tried LR attys, didn't care for those either.

 

[BuzzKill]

What I meant was the ability to CONTROL or change the HIT by adjusting the power or voltage of the device .

A standard E-cig is a fixed voltage 3.7v and the atty is a fixed resistance 3.0 ohms etc.

What you guys are doing by changing atty res. is changing the power and the HIT or TH .

Hope this makes sense ?

If you have control you would just adjust the HIT to your needs by changing things other than the atty res.

 

[Liv2Ski]

Yes BuzzKill VV is where it is at. This allows the ability to dial in whatever preference. Can dial in sweetspot for any atty juice combo. The real trick is to make the voltage change as easy as possible. But you already know that and when the Infinity hits the market it will make a nice addition to my other VV the ProVari.

 

[jmanning]

If you have a large battery mod, 17670, 18500, or 18670, and use good batteries, AWs, you are not stressing the batteries with a LR atty. If you use smaller batteries, like the 14500 or 16340s, you should use IMR batteries to make sure you will not overstress them with a LR atty.

One big advantage of using a large battery w/LR atty over stacked smaller batteries and HV atties is much longer battery life.

 

[BuzzKill]

Thanks SKI , I dont mean this to be a Bxxx discussion , I am try to find out what people think of the current wave of VV type devices or IF they are even aware of them .

And if they think that Control is a good thing.

It is hard to tell around here what people think , the forum is so large and diverse that it is hard to tell .

 

[BuzzKill]

If you have a large battery mod, 17670, 18500, or 18670, and use good batteries, AWs, you are not stressing the batteries with a LR atty. If you use smaller batteries, like the 14500 or 16340s, you should use IMR batteries to make sure you will not overstress them with a LR atty.

One big advantage of using a large battery w/LR atty over stacked smaller batteries and HV atties is much longer battery life.

Absolutely TRUE J BUT there is NO control with just a battery , that is my questions would you WANT control ???

 

[Bovinia]

I'm a control freak. I would rather be able to change the voltage on my PV than spend spend a small fortune buying different cartos or attys to change my sweet spot for each juice

 

[benjayman2]

I have two mods and use mostly LR attys and cartos. I only recently tried HV vaping and it brings out the flavor of some juices and makes others taste burnt. I'm not a big fan of strong TH, but I wanted warmer vapor and better taste. I find that HV vaping drains my batteries faster than 3.7V with a LR atty.

I have the same preference

I had a vv and really didn't utilize the variation as much as i thought I would. I really categorize myself as a 3.7 LR atty guy after testing the vv waters. Even 3.7 2.0-2.5ohm attys are fine as long as I get that vapor production. I usually french inhale so I get the double dose of whatever flavor I'm vaping.

 

[James Hart]

I'm quite happy @ 2.4 or 2.5 ohms on a single 16340 mod. I've got a few IMR and a few regular protected batteries and I'm not seeing any noticeable difference in hit or longevity. I get a day and a half or so from a charge on either.

As far as varying voltage, a friend of mine did a lot of testing of voltage vs resistance using a pass through and a variable voltage power supply. He found that once an atty is hit a few times at a higher voltage, it never quite hits the same at the lower settings. I never experienced it, but I never tried to prove it right or wrong... I just trust the dude's word on tech stuff.

 

[BuzzKill]

I'm quite happy @ 2.4 or 2.5 ohms on a single 16340 mod. I've got a few IMR and a few regular protected batteries and I'm not seeing any noticeable difference in hit or longevity. I get a day and a half or so from a charge on either.

As far as varying voltage, a friend of mine did a lot of testing of voltage vs resistance using a pass through and a variable voltage power supply. He found that once an atty is hit a few times at a higher voltage, it never quite hits the same at the lower settings. I never experienced it, but I never tried to prove it right or wrong... I just trust the dude's word on tech stuff.

If you hit an atty with enough power ( I.E. voltage and current ) yes you can burn up an atty pretty quick , they have a design limit ( most are designed around 3.7 volts , except LR and HV ones ) .
BUT hitting a 3/3ohm atty with 4.3 volts can make it really perform very well , this is something you really have to try to see what I mean , Over amping an atty can mess it up BUT 6 volts on a 2.5 ohm is really pushing the atty design and that was done for years so ?

 

[JonnyVapΣ]

I run up and down my voltage all the time. I'm back to using cartomizers more and as they "age" I simply adjust for it. I also like being able to buy whatever resistance atty/carto is on sale.
Resistance is futile.

 

[James Hart]

If you hit an atty with enough power ( I.E. voltage and current ) yes you can burn up an atty pretty quick

not burn up... just not vape right at lower voltages anymore.
(actually I think he said he melted one just to see how much it could take )

He was taking them from 3v to 7v (assuming a lot of 6v mods use a pair of 16340's stacked which peek at like 4.2v each). His finding was if you vape a good 306 @ 4v and consistently get a good hit and flavor, take it to 6v for a couple hours and it will not perform as it did @ 4v any longer.

Like I said, I never tried it myself, but I know the dude is generally spot on with all things technical (He is one of the scary smart engineers I support).

 

[jmanning]

Absolutely TRUE J BUT there is NO control with just a battery , that is my questions would you WANT control ???

I understand. I am aware of only one VV that uses a single larger battery. It uses one IMR 18490/18500 stock or an IMR 18650 with an extension cap. With this you get VV, long battery life, and none of the hassles and safety issues of stacked batteries. This would be the only way I would be interested in trying a VV mod. If I have to stack batteries to get VV or HV, I am not interested in the least.

 

[BuzzKill]

I understand. I am aware of only one VV that uses a single larger battery. It uses one IMR 18490/18500 stock or an IMR 18650 with an extension cap. With this you get VV, long battery life, and none of the hassles and safety issues of stacked batteries. This would be the only way I would be interested in trying a VV mod. If I have to stack batteries to get VV or HV, I am not interested in the least.

Is that because you are worried about batteries blowing up ? if so the reason batteries do that is because of 1 of 2 things , 1. Direct shorting of the battery ( it can happen with a single battery as well ) 2. internal shorting of the battery ( single or stacked can have this same problem )

If it because you like shorter nods then that is that BUT the issues you had seen with batteries blowing up they were NON protected and were in mechanical mods , the new gen mods have regulators that reduce or limit the current this protects the batteries FYI

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I am aware of the VV's that are out there and I actually considered getting a Provari before I bought my current mods. I decided against it because I wasn't sure whether I would like using LR attys and I wasn't sure that I would even try HV vaping. It just didn't seem worth the cost to me and TBQH, I still can't justify the cost. I like being able to go from a short mod to a longer mod when I feel like it. I guess I'm just not convinced that VV is the way for me right now. Maybe sometime later it might be.

 

[hairball]

I would rather have VV. I like the idea of being able to control flavor and TH.

 

[JonnyVapΣ]

I am aware of the VV's that are out there and I actually considered getting a Provari before I bought my current mods. I decided against it because I wasn't sure whether I would like using LR attys and I wasn't sure that I would even try HV vaping. It just didn't seem worth the cost to me and TBQH, I still can't justify the cost. I like being able to go from a short mod to a longer mod when I feel like it. I guess I'm just not convinced that VV is the way for me right now. Maybe sometime later it might be.

You don't need LR anything with the ProVari. In fact, you can use just about anything. I've thrown 1.7ohm to 5.0ohm at this thing. It's awesome. That's the nice thing about VV. I don't seek to vape at HV, either. But the carto I have right now, at 4.2v, is niiiiccee. VV is not all about using LR/HR/HV etc. It's the ability to find the "sweet spot" with just about anything.

 

[jmanning]

Is that because you are worried about batteries blowing up ? if so the reason batteries do that is because of 1 of 2 things , 1. Direct shorting of the battery ( it can happen with a single battery as well ) 2. internal shorting of the battery ( single or stacked can have this same problem )

If it because you like shorter nods then that is that BUT the issues you had seen with batteries blowing up they were NON protected and were in mechanical mods , the new gen mods have regulators that reduce or limit the current this protects the batteries FYI

I'm not all that concerned about the small batteries blowing up, although, in most cases, they are being overstressed in order to get HV, so there is at least some level of risk. I am very happy with the performance of a big battery 3.7v and LR306, and I would not trade the long battery life of a 2600mAh+ 18650 & LR atty for less that 900mAh to get HV/VV.