IGO-W popping, crackling, etc.. (new to dripping)

[aaronreyes29]

So I just got into rda's last night. Went to my local vape shop and they convinced me to try the IGO-W for my magneto mech mod. Anyways, it is quite fantastic! Flavor is on point, and the ability to go sub-ohm to product great vapor clouds is awesome. I was just wondering if it's normal for the juice to like crackle, pop, and kinda fly around while you are taking a drag? I feel the juice hit my tongue sometimes cause of this. Also, is it advisable to cut (or clean) off the extra strings on the wick. Basically cut the small ones that are hanging off the sides to make the wick look cleaner? Im just hella OCD about these things lol. And any tips for using the IGO-W is appreciated.

Also I didnt build it myself, the guy at the shop did it with 28g kanthal, silica wick, and using what he called "the slug" method.

 

[Raycecar]

That's completely normal, once everything breaks in, it should be smooth.

Do you know what the coil is ohming out to?

 

[Ryedan]

Hi and welcome to ECF!

I love that popping and crackling sound. It's the loudest when the wick and coil are new and clean. I would leave the wick as it is for now. Cut them too short and you will lose performance.

Hmm, I've heard of a few places that are making coils for people that are pretty low in resistance. There is a rebuildable atomizer systems sub-forum here that's got a ton of info on all things RBA. There's a thread here that gives a lot of information on sub-ohm vaping safety.

The most important thing is not to draw too much current from your battery. Batteries have a max amp rating and if you take more than that from them they heat up. That is not safe, specially if you are new to vaping and not aware of the risks. The lower the resistance of your coils, the more amps they will draw from your batteries. My all day vapes are a K100 mechanical mod with a AGA-T RBA and another mech mod with a IGO like yours.

I have and use a cheap digital multimeter to check coil resistances when I'm building them and also battery voltages to make sure my batts don't get too low before I take them out and also to watch that my charger is not overcharging.

What resistance are your coils and what batteries do you have?

 

[permafrying]

I love the snap crackle pop

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[aaronreyes29]

Hello! Thanks for the welcome. I would like to know what you mean by drawing too much current from the battery? Also...are you saying that the lower in ohms you go, the more stress it puts on your battery? I took a look at the chart in the sub-ohm vaping thread and Im trying to figure out what it all means. I do want to be safe, even more, i would like my girlfriend to be safe also cause she doesn't know anything about vapes, yet shes rocking a nemesis clone with an igo-w (she got talked into it by another friend). Anyways, I would like to know as much as I can so I can just be vigilant about the world of mech mods and sub-ohm vaping. I was just wondering if you could explain the whole amp limit an how it correlates with sub-ohm vaping? I dont know the resistance of my coils right now... (bad i know, but the guy at the shop built mine identically the same as my girlfriends and her's read 0.3 ohms). Im planning on getting an ohm checker this week.

Here is my set up:
EFEST 18650 2000MAH at 3.7 volts. Smoktech Magneto Mod. IGO-W dual coil, not sure of the resistance, 28g kanthal, and silica wick.

GF set-up:
AW 18350 700mah at 3.7 volts. Nemesis clone mod. And same IGO-W set up with a resistance of 0.3 ohms.

If you could just lmk if my set up is okay, gf's too, and the whole amp limit stuff that would be great! Sorry for all the questions, but like you said, I just want to be safe. Also I would say im an intermediate vaper. Been vaping for about a good 8 months now. Im just new to mech mods and dripping so yea...sorry if i sound like a noob...thanks!

 

[turbocad6]

dood, your girlfriends setup is not safe, .3 ohms on a 18350 battery???waay off if it's really .3 ohms your almost dead shorting that battery, you got some reading to do

 

[Raycecar]

Are you trying to hurt your girlfriend? If not, you better get that .3 away from that 18350.

With an 18350, I'd go no lower than .8 ohms.

 

[permafrying]

Hey maybe she ...... him off

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[aaronreyes29]

Ahhh omg....Im reading right now and its just a lot of information to take in. Can you explain what dead shorting is? And what are the risks of running this set up. She says she like the set up cause it's small (she doesnt like large mech mods)

 

[aaronreyes29]

Lol bro....she didn't. Like I said im new as helll to this stuff so give me a little break if you could. We both got our mech mods and igo-w's made at the local vape shop near my house. And lets just say they didnt explain much about the safety precautions on our setup.

 

[Ryedan]

Hello! Thanks for the welcome. I would like to know what you mean by drawing too much current from the battery? Also...are you saying that the lower in ohms you go, the more stress it puts on your battery? I took a look at the chart in the sub-ohm vaping thread and Im trying to figure out what it all means. I do want to be safe, even more, i would like my girlfriend to be safe also cause she doesn't know anything about vapes, yet shes rocking a nemesis clone with an igo-w (she got talked into it by another friend). Anyways, I would like to know as much as I can so I can just be vigilant about the world of mech mods and sub-ohm vaping. I was just wondering if you could explain the whole amp limit an how it correlates with sub-ohm vaping? I dont know the resistance of my coils right now... (bad i know, but the guy at the shop built mine identically the same as my girlfriends and her's read 0.3 ohms). Im planning on getting an ohm checker this week.

Here is my set up:
EFEST 18650 2000MAH at 3.7 volts. Smoktech Magneto Mod. IGO-W dual coil, not sure of the resistance, 28g kanthal, and silica wick.

GF set-up:
AW 18350 700mah at 3.7 volts. Nemesis clone mod. And same IGO-W set up with a resistance of 0.3 ohms.

If you could just lmk if my set up is okay, gf's too, and the whole amp limit stuff that would be great! Sorry for all the questions, but like you said, I just want to be safe. Also I would say im an intermediate vaper. Been vaping for about a good 8 months now. Im just new to mech mods and dripping so yea...sorry if i sound like a noob...thanks!

You're welcome!

First let's look at both setups. A RDA using 0.3 ohm coils will draw 12.67 amps at 3.8 volts. Your battery will output 4.2 volts when it's fully charged, but the voltage will be lower in use. I suspect you will not see more than 3.8 V. For info, at 4.2 V it will draw 14.0A.

EFEST 18650 2000 is rated for 10 amps.

AW 18350 700 mAh is rated for 6A.

Both these setups are not safe. I would stop using them now.

 

[permafrying]

Lol i was joking man no worries. We all make mistakes that's just a big one. Dont let her use that set up anymore i cant really educate on how to handle the sub ohm thing but i can say shes gonna need a mech mod if she absolutely wants one. I think a vision spinner or ego twist would suit her needs more she could crank it up to get a good vape without having to deal with a big mod

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[Ryedan]

I would like to know what you mean by drawing too much current from the battery? Also...are you saying that the lower in ohms you go, the more stress it puts on your battery?

Yes, the lower you go in ohms, the more current (amps) you draw from the battery. That will stress the batteries more. The batteries will produce the current the resistance draws, even if it is not rated to do so. Once over the rated draw they will heat up. Both your batteries are IMR chemistry and should not burn if they get too hot. But if you get them hot enough they can vent gas and other toxic stuff. This is dangerous.

ETA: Here is a Ohm's law calculator. Plug in the voltage (use 3.9 volts) and the resistance and hit calculate. It will fill in the rest.

Look at the 'Current (I)' value. That is the amps. Change the resistance and see what happens to the amps. Then change the voltage and watch what happens. Work that a bit and you should get a good understanding of what happens to amp draw when you change voltage or resistance.

 

[bshm]

How do you know your girlfriend's setup is .3 ohm?

 

[aaronreyes29]

The guy at the store checked in on an ohm reader, but didnt do it on mines

 

[aaronreyes29]

Hmmm. I really appreciate those number since Im horrible at math. What do you recommend we do then? Pertaining to our set ups. I kinda spent like a 100+ on mine, and so did my girlfriend. Anyway that we can make our mods usable? Change the battery? go higher in resistance? use 30g kanthal instead of 28?

 

[aaronreyes29]

Yes, the lower you go in ohms, the more current (amps) you draw from the battery. That will stress the batteries more. The batteries will produce the current the resistance draws, even if it is not rated to do so. Once over the rated draw they will heat up. Both your batteries are IMR chemistry and should not burn if they get too hot. But if you get them hot enough they can vent gas and other toxic stuff. This is dangerous.

ETA: Here is a Ohm's law calculator. Plug in the voltage (use 3.9 volts) and the resistance and hit calculate. It will fill in the rest.

Look at the 'Current (I)' value. That is the amps. Change the resistance and see what happens to the amps. Then change the voltage and watch what happens. Work that a bit and you should get a good understanding of what happens to amp draw when you change voltage or resistance.

Thanks for that link. Ill try playing around with it to get a better understanding. Just bought an ohm checker so it should be here this week too. So do these batteries have like an auto-shut off mechanism before they get too hot? Cause I know the EFEST and AW IMR batts are supposed to be the top of the line? So far after using it for 48 hrs they havent got that hot. Well mines hasnt really. I take short drags and I dont hold on the fire button too long. My gf's does get a bit hot because its shorter i guess? I mean it is an 18350 so you could imagine the size of it with the igo-w fire right near the palm of your hand when in position to vape. And uhmm...why would they make telescopic mods to use with an 18350 if people dont reccomend them? Just wondering

 

[aaronreyes29]

Yeaaah.....I tried talking to her about those ego styled batteries but she is pretty firm about her mod. Plus its kinda too late now since she dropped like a bill on it. Just trying to make it safe for her now is all i can do. Probably going to have to rebuild it to a higher resistance this week. Even though I never built before....lol

 

[t2ak]

Yeaaah.....I tried talking to her about those ego styled batteries but she is pretty firm about her mod. Plus its kinda too late now since she dropped like a bill on it. Just trying to make it safe for her now is all i can do. Probably going to have to rebuild it to a higher resistance this week. Even though I never built before....lol

that would be the best route to go. build them with 1.0-1.3 ohm coils. it will do you guys just fine. basic coils with silica wicks are super easy. search youtube for videos, there is hundreds. many that specifically setup your igo. it will probably take a few tries but it beats having to buy or go to a shop to have someone do it for you.

plus, having a battery go into thermal runaway in your/her face or pocket probably will not go so well.

check it :http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/190146-pictures-serious-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.html

 

[turbocad6]

batteries getting hot is not good, you are overstressing the battery. best case is they just fail and vent, worse case is they fail to vent and explode. not going to lie and say that I think they are going to blow up because that is pretty rare, BUT when they do blow up this is exactly how it happens, by overloading them to the point of damage. it's def not safe

you can fix it easily by just building a coil that is within the safe range of the battery, on a 18350 personally I would stay at 1.0 ohm or higher, the 18350 doesn't have that much capacity and even at 1 ohm the battery will not last all that long between charges too, but at least it's safe. there is nothing wrong with an 18350 device but it does have the limitations of much less capacity and less amperage limits, work with the battery not against it. to run .3 ohm coils at anything even remotely safe you def need to have at least a good 18650 battery and a high draw one at that. .3 is approaching the jagged edge and is usually not recommended for a novice that doesn't really understand all the ins and outs here because under the wrong conditions it is dangerous and in your girls setup it is def not good. get her in a 1.0 or higher ohm coil