IKENVAPE.COM coming soon!!!

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Iken

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:confused: are you sure you didnt get any rain.....how about today?

I sleep better when it rains.....I have the best dreams like jumping out of planes or snorkeling in the Bahamas :w00t:<-----I wish

lol not a drop! :eek:
Val's the exact same way. We have 2 dream systems here lol
Ah man, snorkeling and sky diving? hmmm thinking James bond here :D
 

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Not one lol
GOLDEN EYE!! That was soo cool back then Oh my god Grim I was just going to say that, that was the 1st first person shooter but then remembered Wolfenstein was, so right now at this second I checked the one site and there it was! It was just released today, The New version of Wolfenstein! Getting right now! lol so excited :D:D
 

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That game looks sic:thumbs: Love the Wolfinstein series all the way back to the begining. Anyone remember Blake Stone?

BTW hope you guys have a good server. I think we are gonna try and crash it when you open lol.

Didnt know about Smokeinduce. Just noticed no GG on his site

Blake stone was the $%^& haha 50% downloaded Woo hoo!

Haha my server stated unlimited everything, so lets hope for the best!

Oh yes, you missed all that :( Tim gave us a great farewell and we returned all the love very sentimental stuff :cry:
 

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Not one lol
GOLDEN EYE!! That was soo cool back then Oh my god Grim I was just going to say that, that was the 1st first person shooter but then remembered Wolfenstein was, so right now at this second I checked the one site and there it was! It was just released today, The New version of Wolfenstein! Getting right now! lol so excited :D:D
Tag team..:w00t:...its on man...:evil:...hey how is the new game demo you got..........I also heard there is a new Halo coming out soon......but its a little different.:(
 
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grimmer255

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Hey Iken I was looking into the vapors club.....what do you think about getting one going for our area....we can all meet up at a pool hall or someplace once a month. And just play some billards pool and have a couple of brewskies. We can talk about vaping and show people our fun new toys. And best of all making new friends that share a common goal and experience. Just a thought............
 

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Hi Iken and Bunny,

I just had a look at the Ikenvape site. It's coming along great! I can't wait until you're ready to take orders!

That said, I feel I should give you my unbiased feedback on the look of the site. It doesn't look good, guys. All those little animations of smoke and lightning, the "Enter" sign surrounded by lightbulbs... no "Products" or "shop" link... frankly, it looks cheesy and amateurish. I don't know who was responsible for the layout and overall look, but if I was a new potential customer just stumbling on the site, I would be underwhelmed. When I shop online, rightly or wrongly, I base my ordering decisions partly on whether an online store looks professional and businesslike. This one does not.

Another thing I base decisions on as a customer is the level of the English on a website. I make it a rule not to order from any online store that commits spelling mistakes. I didn't notice any spelling mistakes on your site, but eeech... the punctuation is pretty awful, guys. What's up with the unbridled use of commas followed by em-dashes? I noticed a lot of incorrect comma placement, too, and a few misused words. Ask me for specific examples if that would be helpful.

These may seem like nitpicks, but I do think design and copy are things that influence potential customers, subconsciously if not consciously. It's one thing if you're just going to act as a supplier for friends from ECF who want the GG regardless of where they have to get it, and already know and trust you from the forums. But if you're trying to make a go of this as a professional business, you need to lift your game with regard to the issues I described above.

Please don't hate me! I intend this as constructive criticism, and I'll personally be buying a GG regardless :)
 

imeothanasis

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Seven , I dont buy from anyone who has spelling mistakes to (in Greece). I think these people have not a big concern about what they sell and they arent people that will help me right when time comes.

I really dont know if there are those issues to Iken's site but I suggest that they must be corected immediately.

As for the site style, I wanted to say something (only personal opinion!) I like the man who has a yugo that runs like a porche!!! It has fun and its a surprise for the man who has a real porche!! So if Iken will be the best supplier out there with his personal style, then he does not need a common professional site.

Of course many people (me too) like professional style. My sister who is one of the best web designers in Greece didnt like it.

But my final desision is that I love Iken's site for its old fashion style. It looks professional in a diferent way. If Iken drives this site as I expect then it will be the most lovely diferent site out there.

I like diference. I dont want to be as the other people. If I was at Iken's place I would do something diferent too. Its a style matter. I understand how you feel but if you see it in another way you will be satisfied. Maybe not all people see it that way but Iken is the master here. If he runs it well, all people will love it.

Again I express my personal opinion and I like it very much because its like this. Maybe in future if he sees that many people want a change he will do it. I personally dont want to do it for the above reasons
 
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Lisaf01

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Hi Iken and Bunny,

I just had a look at the Ikenvape site. It's coming along great! I can't wait until you're ready to take orders!

That said, I feel I should give you my unbiased feedback on the look of the site. It doesn't look good, guys. All those little animations of smoke and lightning, the "Enter" sign surrounded by lightbulbs... no "Products" or "Shop" link... frankly, it looks cheesy and amateurish. I don't know who was responsible for the layout and overall look, but if I was a new potential customer just stumbling on the site, I would be underwhelmed. When I shop online, rightly or wrongly, I base my ordering decisions partly on whether an online store looks professional and businesslike. This one does not.

Another thing I base decisions on as a customer is the level of the English on a website. I make it a rule not to order from any online store that commits spelling mistakes. I didn't notice any spelling mistakes on your site, but eeech... the punctuation is pretty awful, guys. What's up with the unbridled use of commas followed by em-dashes? I noticed a lot of incorrect comma placement, too, and a few misused words. Ask me for specific examples if that would be helpful.

These may seem like nitpicks, but I do think design and copy are things that influence potential customers, subconsciously if not consciously. It's one thing if you're just going to act as a supplier for friends from ECF who want the GG regardless of where they have to get it, and already know and trust you from the forums. But if you're trying to make a go of this as a professional business, you need to lift your game with regard to the issues I described above.

Please don't hate me! I intend this as constructive criticism, and I'll personally be buying a GG regardless :)

Picky, yes, but at the same time, I agree with most of what you've said.
I get a little upset when people criticise my own sites, but I'd rather have honest feedback than have something un-professional out there.

P.S. Please don't hate me either.
 

Iken

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Haha No Hate at all guys! I agree with you Lisa, fine critique is always needed and indeed welcomed. Di and I are not website designers and she knows ALOT more than myself about making these things happen. I'm not saying she's at fault here. As she puts it, I point and she clicks haha. What you guys are seeing here is the heart and soul of our style, which happens to be identical! Any specifics will be greatly appreciated Just dont send me 6 paragraphs and at the bottom saying "You know what, just take the whole thing down" haha I understand or from what I experienced, each designer's in-depth opinion usually ends with a Whole revamping to their own style and vision. We do welcome all opinions, just please don't give it at extremes :D
 

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Haha No Hate at all guys! I agree with you Lisa, fine critique is always needed and indeed welcomed. Di and I are not website designers and she knows ALOT more than myself about making these things happen. I'm not saying she's at fault here. As she puts it, I point and she clicks haha. What you guys are seeing here is the heart and soul of our style, which happens to be identical! Any specifics will be greatly appreciated Just dont send me 6 paragraphs and at the bottom saying "You know what, just take the whole thing down" haha I understand or from what I experienced, each designer's in-depth opinion usually ends with a Whole revamping to their own style and vision. We do welcome all opinions, just please don't give it at extremes :D

Hey Iken, thanks for taking my critique in the friendly spirit in which it was meant!

I picked up on what are really two separate issues, the site design and the English. As you and Imeo point out, web design / style is ultimately a personal preference thing, and there's no rule that you have to have your site professionally designed, so having registered my feedback, I'll leave it at that :)

The other issue is one I can give a few specific examples of, e.g.:

"Customers are issued a tracking number after dispatch, which can be checked via the couriers website."

should be: "Customers are issued a tracking number after dispatch that can be checked via the courier's website."

That vs. which.

"Even more enticing, is the fact that this is an amazing piece of e-cigarette technology that really does work, it gives the best performance of any e-cig we have tried."

should be "Even more enticing is the fact that this is an amazing piece of e-cigarette technology that really does work. It gives better performance than any other e-cig we have tried." or "Even more enticing is the fact that this is an amazing piece of e-cigarette technology that really does work. It gives the best performance of all the e-cigs we have tried."

Comma placement, better vs. best.

"Three body parts which had been precisely engineered

machine worked to snugly fit together,

two beautifully machine worked ends which

match-up nicely with the button.

All together, this PV has been very finely designed and crafted."


should be "Three body parts precisely engineered and

machine worked to snugly fit together:

two beautifully machine worked ends that

match up nicely with the button.

Overall, this PV has been very finely designed and crafted."

That vs. which, commas, all together (sic) vs. overall

"A Fixed shipping rate of - USD $ 15.00
applies to all finalized International orders."

should be "A fixed shipping rate of USD $15.00 applies to all finalized international orders."

Capitalization, punctuation.

"You've Tried The Rest, -- Now Buy The Best, -- 'cos you're Worth It."

should be: "You've Tried The Rest, Now Buy The Best, 'Cos You're Worth It."

Commas before em-dashes, inconsistent capitalization.

...etc. Hope this helps.
 
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Lisaf01

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Iken,

Everyone has their own ways of doing things and it's such a subjective thing anyway. You should be aware that there are people out there who, for various reasons, really dislike dark backgrounds with light text. Personally, I think that the overall theme works well for the products you are selling, apart from the naff (IMO:D) lightning on the menu.

Anyway, in the interest of constructive feedback, rather than breaking down all the individual elements, I give you the following generally accepted "protocols" for want of a better word.

  • Keep different font styles and colours to a minimum.
  • Most animated graphics are a no-no. Any that are used should add something specific to the content in some way.
  • Keep the code very clean and graphics optimised so that pages load quickly.
  • Test fully in all common browsers.
  • Make use of metatags to help search engines.
  • Spelling, punctuation & grammar should of course be flawless.
I really hope that helps.

Please do feel free to ignore anything I've said. I am not the world's greatest web-designer but I have built and maintained a fair few over the years, mostly for paying clients.

L
xx
 

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Hey Iken, thanks for taking my critique in the friendly spirit in which it was meant!

I picked up on what are really two separate issues, the site design and the English. As you and Imeo point out, web design / style is ultimately a personal preference thing, and there's no rule that you have to have your site professionally designed, so having registered my feedback, I'll leave it at that :)

The other issue is one I can give a few specific examples of, e.g.:

"Customers are issued a tracking number after dispatch, which can be checked via the couriers website."

should be: "Customers are issued a tracking number after dispatch that can be checked via the courier's website."

That vs. which.

"Even more enticing, is the fact that this is an amazing piece of e-cigarette technology that really does work, it gives the best performance of any e-cig we have tried."

should be "Even more enticing is the fact that this is an amazing piece of e-cigarette technology that really does work. It gives better performance than any other e-cig we have tried." or "Even more enticing is the fact that this is an amazing piece of e-cigarette technology that really does work. It gives the best performance of all the e-cigs we have tried."

Comma placement, better vs. best.

"Three body parts which had been precisely engineered

machine worked to snugly fit together,

two beautifully machine worked ends which

match-up nicely with the button.

All together, this PV has been very finely designed and crafted."


should be "Three body parts precisely engineered and

machine worked to snugly fit together:

two beautifully machine worked ends that

match up nicely with the button.

Overall, this PV has been very finely designed and crafted."

That vs. which, commas, all together (sic) vs. overall

"A Fixed shipping rate of - USD $ 15.00
applies to all finalized International orders."

should be "A fixed shipping rate of USD $15.00 applies to all finalized international orders."

Capitalization, punctuation.

"You've Tried The Rest, -- Now Buy The Best, -- 'cos you're Worth It."

should be: "You've Tried The Rest, Now Buy The Best, 'Cos You're Worth It."

Commas before em-dashes, inconsistent capitalization.

...etc. Hope this helps.

Done Done Done

Feel like I'm back in school, English class
 
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