Long time vaper friend told me that it was announced a week or so that SOMETHING, I assumed the 901 she pointed at, was going to be illegal come June 2010. Did I miss some news about all of this?
Illegal In June Of This Year
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I keep hearing this, too. Re Ecigs in general. "In June it's all over." Not in here; out there in the rude streets.
This is why I have spent all my money and keep spending all of it. I bet it's not true. But it could be, who knows what's going on in the belly of the whale?
Urban myth?
This is why I have spent all my money and keep spending all of it. I bet it's not true. But it could be, who knows what's going on in the belly of the whale?
Urban myth?
I am in the Dallas area. Maybe it was the flavored juice being made illegal, but it sounded like it was the e-cig at the time. Supposedly there was some kind of announcement made last week. I never say nor heard it before the comment Tuesday night. Maybe it's just a BS rumor. bob
You are obviously not looking in the direction of Britain and the MHRA.
Of course it does not concern the USA..............Yet.
Of course it does not concern the USA..............Yet.
There are feedback loops and I'm concerned. Jumped on UK petitions as I could; the whole mess is rather worrisome (makes one think of Faust). Options 1 and 2 seem the only legislatively viable ones and both mean heaps of trouble.
This rumor has some truth to it, applies to UK only, and you can read about it here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...egulation-e-cigs-petition-further-action.html
I'm thinking it may have something to do with this thread (link below). If you follow the link, then watch the video in the upper right corner, she says (at the very end) that the AMA is "currently studying them and says it will release it's findings at it's House of Delegates annual meeting in June"
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-news/71734-electronic-cigarettes-they-safe-ksnt-com.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-news/71734-electronic-cigarettes-they-safe-ksnt-com.html
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Yeah, "everyone is studying them", FDA, AMA, ALU, BMJ, ACS, and even NBI (Nothing But Initials). E-cigs have been around in the U.S. for over 2 years. They've all had 2+ years to do their studies, instead we hear "oh, we're studying them, we need to do our studies". I call bull. Where were they for the last 2 years? Answer: Hoping that e-cigs will never become popular, so just keep silent and they'll go away. Well, that didn't work, so now it's "oh, please don't use these dangerous devices, we need to do our 10-year studies on them". Right.
All I heard last year was e-cigs were going to be illegal by August or Sept. of 2009. It never happened. I got sick of all the paranoia so I quit paying it any attention which is exactly what I'd advise everyone here. If it happens it happens. It damn sure ain't gonna stop ME from vaping and that's a fact.
Yes tarheeldan they have worded that very slyly to make us think there is no Option 3. They say Option 3. Do Nothing and allow these Unregulated products containing nicotine that have not been assessed for safety, quality and efficacy to remain on the market.
What they don't say is that these Devices are already Regulated in the UK by Trading Standards and the Poisons Act.
What the MHRA mean is "these Unregulated products containing nicotine that have not been assessed for safety, quality and efficacy" by THEM The MHRA.
UK people where confused as well but now everyone is choosing Option 3 Do Nothing and are asking who gave this Quango the authority to try to Regulate E-Cigs. They are on shaky ground and will be challenged. If Option 2 is used it means that E-cig Retailers and Manufacturers will have a year to get their Products "assessed for safety, quality and efficacy" by June 2010 which will cost a fortune and cannot be done in a Year anyway. Even if one could do it , it would be Licensed as a Medicine. Which it is not.
Only one company is playing ball (or should i say selling out) and voting Option 2 and that is Intellicig whose aim is to make their E-Liquid all no-Nic anyway.(they allege.) Some users think their Liquid is about as effective as no-Nic as it is.
btw. If you wan't to know why the MHRA are doing this download and read this PDF.
http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/idcplg?...068577&RevisionSelectionMethod=LatestReleased
Nicorette aka Johnson and Johnson aka GlaxoKlineSmith Major Shareholder in Phillip Morris.
Big Pharma Is also Big Tobacco.
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Thanks for the info deewal - been watching TW's YouTube vids on the issue so that helped get some perspective (though not so sure about some of their more recent strategies) and your mess and the mess over here certainly seem to be all about lining pockets. Hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.
Scooter,
I guess it depends on where you live. However, make no mistake - if it happens in the UK - the US is not far behind!
I guess it depends on where you live. However, make no mistake - if it happens in the UK - the US is not far behind!
No way! Not in the U.S.A. Everyone is too paranoid.
E-cigs are the future. They will not be banned. Too much good can come from them. Medical bills going away, cancer reduction, improved health, etc, etc... Cigarettes however may be banned. And even if they aren't, people will stop smoking anyway. NOBODY who smokes likes the new fire ......ant paper they are using on cigarettes now. Soon all cigarettes will have it and everyone who smokes with that paper says that cigarettes taste like total poo. More and more people are moving to e-cigs because of this paper alone. The tobacco companies are shooting themselves in the foot with this one.
E-cigs are the future. They will not be banned. Too much good can come from them. Medical bills going away, cancer reduction, improved health, etc, etc... Cigarettes however may be banned. And even if they aren't, people will stop smoking anyway. NOBODY who smokes likes the new fire ......ant paper they are using on cigarettes now. Soon all cigarettes will have it and everyone who smokes with that paper says that cigarettes taste like total poo. More and more people are moving to e-cigs because of this paper alone. The tobacco companies are shooting themselves in the foot with this one.
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