Illinois Government moving to ban sale of PVs

[Stealthy77]

That is good stuff Hudsonkm Well done!

 

[yanks21]

Don't know how missed this new info yesterday . . .

Regardless thanks so much for the info Hudsonkm

 

[bluesuede]

I'm Swedish born and bred and I can tell you that you can buy *some* branded e-cigs in Sweden (as in inferior), but no liquid containing nicotine as the Big Nanny (the Swedish Government) considers nicotine to be a drug and therefore illegal for sale and consumption. All the e-cigs sold in Sweden have 0mg nic. I ship it to friends and family there from here or I help them to order directly from China. So far so good.

Having lived in NYC and California, I'd have to agree.

First time I landed in Cal., I thought it was OZ.

Your perspective is interesting, esp. re Sweden and France... I've traveled to both, and considered expatriating to Sweden, long ago, but never lived in either country. Have been unable to find reliable info of status of ecigs in either country.

Poland has suffered too much. and I wander off topic, and will cease.

And I'm wandering off-topic, and will cease.

 

[Hudsonkm]

Ill send along further info as it comes. Including info on when the article runs once I find out.

There are a bunch of articles popping up on the web in relation to the funding and the Illinois ban as well.

I can't post URL links yet so just google search - Illinois e-cigarette funding

I'm Swedish born and bred and I can tell you that you can buy *some* branded e-cigs in Sweden (as in inferior), but no liquid containing nicotine as the Big Nanny (the Swedish Government) considers nicotine to be a drug and therefore illegal for sale and consumption. All the e-cigs sold in Sweden have 0mg nic. I ship it to friends and family there from here or I help them to order directly from China. So far so good.

Wow whats the use in smoking 0mg nico cigs?

 

[maxx]

I was just up reading in the legal and campaigning forums. The scuttlebut is that the bill to ban e-cigs in Maryland has died in committee and won't be acted upon this year. If true....it means there is still hope for Illinois legislators to come to their senses.

 

[pianoguy]

Just thought I'd let you guys know.

The Chicago tribune contacted me after I sent them a letter about the possible ban in Illinois.

Apparently the reporter who contacted me was already trying to dig up info on it for a story she was writing. At the time that she contacted me she was in Springfield and it makes me wonder if the story was relevant to the entire health care debate.

In any sense, she did say she wants to get this story rolling for print ASAP. I put her in contact with Chris from Cigtechs when she mentioned that she would like to talk to somebody on the business side of the industry as well.

She wasn't speaking from an Anti E-CIG angle and seemed sympathetic.

During the conversation she even brought up that there are tons of products not authorized by the FDA yet still legal to sell. Weight lifting supplements, vitamins, etc.

In my letter I detailed the possibility of a connection between Senator Links crusade on E-CIGS and the large amounts of money he has received from various pharmaceutical groups. Groups included those who have been taking an active stance against the vaping industry.

PRIOR to contacting the media I sent a copy of my letter to the Governor as well as nearly every Senator and Rep that has in any way been connected with the bill. (Theres a TON) I mentioned in the letter than I am about to contact the media on the topic of the ban in general and what could possibly be a major conflict of interest due to the funding concerns.

They didn't even bother responding to phone calls or Emails. After the lack of any reply I sent the letter off to the media and was contacted the following day.

Anyhow, I can't claim this as an absolute fact as I didn't hear it myself. But apparently when Senator Link was questioned about the ban he basically said "He didn't even know anything about E-Cigs but somebody said he should ban them. So he authored the bill."

If in fact this is true then I am floored by the lack common sense being displayed by political figures in Illinois.

Wow, that takes the cake if it is true!!

 

[aubergine]

Max, i just saw that, too, a 3-19 vote win for MD vapers... (!!) and am waiting to see of it's absolutely confirmed. lovely news, 'specially to my heart, as my eldest daughter and her husband, who've just started vaping, live there. That's CA, UT, (MD?)...

So OK. We WIN the sucker, state by state:

YouTube - OK Go - This Too Shall Pass - Rube Goldberg Machine version - Official

 

[aubergine]

(note insane dancing... pink batts? Just to be sure I'm on topic) )

 

[aubergine]

(Is that the best Rube Goldberg ever, or WHAT?)

 

[Adrenalynn]

Yeah - it was. How many takes to get it? Fifty? A hundred? More? [cynic involved as a consultant on too many Rube Goldberg machines...]

 

[aubergine]

Adren, how come YOU get to be a consultant on RG machines, and I, who am possessed of such meticulous, shimmering and hungry whimsy, have somehow become L'ange de Morte and Weary Wizard of Odds?

Life is ridiculous. At 5:11 AM.

 

[Adrenalynn]

I didn't fall asleep during physics?

Everything is ridiculous at 5:11am. I love mornings... They just come at such an inconvenient time of the day... That's why I'm "early to bed, early to rise". Go to bed early in the morning - get up early in the afternoon...

 

[Hudsonkm]

Max, i just saw that, too, a 3-19 vote win for MD vapers... (!!) and am waiting to see of it's absolutely confirmed. lovely news, 'specially to my heart, as my eldest daughter and her husband, who've just started vaping, live there. That's CA, UT, (MD?)...

So OK. We WIN the sucker, state by state:

Thats great news for MD Very cool.

 

[miss MiA]

...sooo glad there've been some positive indications but isn't CA back on the firing line?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ons/80133-what-do-proposed-bans-4-states.html

 

[Hudsonkm]

...sooo glad there've been some positive indications but isn't CA back on the firing line?

Yeah I saw that. Pretty lame...

Wish there was a law against trying to pass the same thing twice in a row.

Makes no sense... I mean come on a hospital in Tampa announced allowing vaping in the property. Seems that would serve as a clear indication as to if it is safe or not.

 

[Drozd]

...sooo glad there've been some positive indications but isn't CA back on the firing line?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ons/80133-what-do-proposed-bans-4-states.html

in the thread about the CA ban...supposedly the bill author is amending/rewriting the bill that it's just a ban for minors...the rewritten bill was supposed to be available for viewing this week..

 

[Hudsonkm]

in the thread about the CA ban...supposedly the bill author is amending/rewriting the bill that it's just a ban for minors...the rewritten bill was supposed to be available for viewing this week..

If that's the case then its good to hear.

Banning sale to minors IMHO is acceptable. One less reason for critics of vaping to complain.

Though pretty much all of the companies out there already won't sell to individuals under 18.

 

[v1John]

Interesting article about the Tampa hospital; excerpt:

Some special interest groups, politicians and the like are making weak claims and downplaying the benefits of electric cigarette, but a hospital in Tampa, Florida made a decision this past week to allow the use of electronic cigarettes within the hospital.

Full article at:
Despite FDA Warning Electronic Cigarettes Gaining Worldwide Acceptance

 

[v1John]

I know, my post above was about Tampa. However, what I am wondering, is if it would be better, perhaps, for eVapers in Illinois to also talk to Ilinois hospital employees who smoke and see if they could benefit from ecigs.?

 

[Drozd]

If that's the case then its good to hear.

Banning sale to minors IMHO is acceptable. One less reason for critics of vaping to complain.

Though pretty much all of the companies out there already won't sell to individuals under 18.

here's the link to the CA bill in case you're interested in watching it: Bill List
and here's the thread about it where in post #9 the person said that it was to be rewritten
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ill-define-e-cigs-drug-sales-prohibition.html