I'm a newbie, I need a E Cig that can TRULY provide the pleasure of real cigarettes!

[Wabbeln]

Hi, I'm a newbie. I want to quit smoking for health reasons, but I don't want to miss out on the pleasure of smoking, so I'm interested in E-Cig. First of all, I hope this site is legit and the members here are not hired by the E-Cig companies if you know what I mean...

Still waiting for my checks to start rolling in.

I also don't want to use any fluid that is ethylene glycol based, for health reasons.

Ethylene glycol is the base for anti-freeze. Propylene glycol is used in e-juice. PG is used in medicines, food products, etc.

And perhaps the most importantly, I really love the nicotine rush, that BUZZ that you get from the first cigarette in the morning. I don't care how reliable or how "tasty" a e cig is, if it doesn't offer me the nicotine pleasure, then it's still worthless for me.

Unfortunately, I quit getting the morning buzz years ago. Still don't get it with e-cigs.


Good luck with it.

 

[C-Note]

I say go straight to a mod device and save yourself some money...
I started with cigarette sized ones and spent lots of $$ just to end up using a 5v mod now years later.
I currently only use the Vmax but the provari is a good choice as well...
Just my 2 cents...

 

[C-Note]

Also Blu was my 2nd ecig a years back and it was ok for a little bit but it wasnt strong enough as far as emulating the smoking experience so i moved on within 3-4 months to a bigger device.

 

[awsum140]

I will second MrOutlaw's comments regarding the Volt. I started out with a ProSmoke, which is what I call a "micro", and is not very good at all despite their claims. I tried a Blu and it was far better then found ECF and the Volt. The 78mm batteries last long enough, 3-4 hours and I'm a fairly heavy vaper, and their cartomizers are among the best available. Now they've added what is called a CE3 by them, they are even better. I keep seeing new people getting advised to buy large batteries and variable voltage rigs with low resistance atomizers and large tanks. While the Volt with a 78mm battery and a CE3 is bigger and heavier than a tobacco cigarette it is still small enough for hands free operation so it does mimick a tobacco cigarette fairly well.

As far as that "morning rush", that is a very subjective and individual reaction to nicotine and all the additives in tobacco cigarettes. An electronic cigarette may or may not duplicate that for you since everybody and every body is different. It can probably be done, but it will take some trial and error with liquids, both nicotine content and ratio of polyglycol and vegetable glycerin to find the combination that works best for you. Keep in mind what others have said here, polyglycol IS NOT antifreeze and is used, routinely, as a vehicle in medical inhalants and has been used as such for at least 50 or 60 years with no real problems. Yes, some people are allergic to it, but somewhere there is a person allergic to almost anything you can think of that is consumed by people. Incidentally, the FDA has deemed it safe for human use and consumption. There are many discussions and references here on ECF regarding its' safety.

I smoked tobacco cigarettes for 50 plus years and have been able to stop completely using what is referred to as a "mini", the Volt. It is a quality e-cigarette and is supplied by a good company with excellent customer support. No, I don't work for Smokeless mage and I pay posted prices for everything I get from them. Good luck on your effort to get off of tobacco cigarettes.

 

[s14sher]

As stated in other posts, avoid picking up a cheap e-cig. You'll more than likely be disappointed.
True story:

My aunt (who lurks here sometimes, Hi Aunt Diane) was a fairly heavy smoker. Family members tried for years to get her to quit. I think she'd pretty much tried everything and failed. About a year ago I gave her my old Eco-cig and she liked the idea, but it didn't really do it for her. It was hard for her to tell when the cartomizer needed to be changed and I suspect she was smoking polyfil at least half the time

A few months later, she expressed interest in the eGO that I was using and ultimately bought one. For several months I'd only see her using it every now and then. I honestly decided she probably wasn't going to be successful with it. Then, she saw me using a Stardust and asked what it was. I let her puff it and she was like "Wow, I want to order one of those". Now, she uses a vivi nova and loves it. It's been months since she's had a cigarette. She told me that she actually prefers the e-cig to smoking and I believe her. I made her a lanyard so she can wear it around the house and vape to her heart's content. She says she wish she had discovered this sooner.

Trust me. If she can do it, anyone can. She'll tell you the same thing. Resist the urge to buy the cheapest thing you can get. The Volt seems to be pretty popular on the forum and I think it would be a good place to start. Don't get discouraged and try not to be too overwhelmed by all the info here. If you have questions, ask.

Good luck to you.

 

[steven1356]

Stay simple at first and stay with your basic tobacco flavored liquids.Iprefer the Joye 510 with a cartomizer.There literally dozens of brands out therebut I think at first you will have more success with something that looks more like a cigarette.You will eventually get into it and want to evolve,but dont throw a fistful of money at it right up front,.I also wouldnt start with anything less than 26mg. juice.Check cignot.com. very affordable fast and have excellent customer service..Good luck and stay with it ,it will become more a hobby than a habit..Have a great day.

 

[niczgreat]

Money no problem.
Buy a Provari or Mini Provari
Need a great Cartridge Buy a Vivi Nova
Need strong Liquid. Buy from Halo
Need stronger liquid. Go to RTS Vapes or Wizard Labs and buy 60mg or 100mg Liquid and spike the Halo.
*Warning 100mg is considered dangerous, read about proper handling procedures before using it.
* Warning 60 mg is still on the edge read about proper handling procedures.

 

[paulw2014]

Thanks for all the replies, they have been very helpful.

What are you all vaping, that you can't get that 'first cigarette in the morning buzz'?

A good battery or VV battery device, LR carto, stong nic ejuice, (my favorite is 36mg Chocolate Hazelnut by VaporGod) equals HUGE buzz!

Since buzz is pretty important for me, can you tell me which VV battery device you are using? And what does "LR carto" mean? Basically, I'm interested in knowing the setup you use and where to buy it. Is it considered a "mod"? Thanks

 

[paulw2014]

Agree, as I'm sure most people here will. Because there are way better things.

I'll just encapsulate (very simply) what is usually recommended to start off with here.....which you can then research at your leisure, using the search tool:

Starter stuff: Volt, Riva, Ego-Twist, E-Power, KGO. Pro's and cons to each.

What brand of cigs did/do you smoke? You did not say whether size is important to you, i.e. do you want your ecig to be like more like a regular cig or can it be bigger or not even in the shape of an actual cig? Like large magic marker size, actual cig size, flashlight size, or even something that is shaped like a box your cigs come in.

I smoked all kinds of cigarettes before, not really picky about that. Size is not important to me. Only thing that is important is big vapors, powerful hit, and nicotine pleasure. Basically something that can replace analog cigarettes for health's sake, while not sacrificing too much in terms of pleasure.

After reading everyone's reply, and the helpful pages member "vivo" provided, I'm starting to think maybe a mod is right for me...
Perhaps I should get a VV battery, a powerful atomizer, and some good juice. Can you guys recommend some specific models? VV battery" is kinda vague...

thanks

 

[dragonbone]

Thanks for all the replies, they have been very helpful.
Since buzz is pretty important for me, can you tell me which VV battery device you are using? And what does "LR carto" mean? Basically, I'm interested in knowing the setup you use and where to buy it. Is it considered a "mod"? Thanks

Hey Quiet! You must have been mightly surprised by all the responses you got lol... I was worried that we had scared you off. OK, in my opinion, it is the JUICE and carto combination that is most important. The battery part (of the ecig) all depends on you style and budget. There are VV, fixed voltage, boxy types, tubular types, all kinds of things. You can get an awesome vape without a mod. All depends on what YOU like. But a wimpy juice and bad carto will still be wimpy and bad, even on the most expensive mod IMHO!
Some of my favorites here, and here and here .

 

[rondasherrill]

I smoked all kinds of cigarettes before, not really picky about that. Size is not important to me. Only thing that is important is big vapors, powerful hit, and nicotine pleasure. Basically something that can replace analog cigarettes for health's sake, while not sacrificing too much in terms of pleasure.

After reading everyone's reply, and the helpful pages member "vivo" provided, I'm starting to think maybe a mod is right for me...
Perhaps I should get a VV battery, a powerful atomizer, and some good juice. Can you guys recommend some specific models? VV battery" is kinda vague...

thanks

Provari and Darwin and Reo VV's are the current top of the line variable output champions, although the Darwin is out of stock often, and it looks like the Reo VV Grand is currently out of stock, although there are some Reo VV Woodvil's.

All are different beasts for different types of vapers. I personally use a Provari, and am saving for a Reo.

The Darwin, while hard to get ahold of, is the most "idiot proof". You set the wattage to what feels good for you, and it automatically adjusts the voltage depending on the atomizer or cartomizer you put on it.

The Provari throws error codes if the voltage is too high for the atomizer or cartomizer, instead of popping it, and they are built strong from stainless steel, here in the USA.

The Reo is a bottom-feeding mod, meaning you just squeeze a bottle inside it to feed the atomizer or top up the cartomizer. They are also very strong and have a cult following around here.

 

[bruiser]

VV stands for variable voltage. The voltage of the battery can be changed. The cheapest VV at the moment is the eGo C Twist. LR is low resistance. LR is meant to give a high voltage sensation on a lower voltage battery. LR atomizers and cartomizers should not be used on a low capacity battery. SR is standard resistance and can be used on small capacity batteries. Either can be used on a VV set up.

 

[clamman]

Thanks for all the replies, they have been very helpful.



Since buzz is pretty important for me, can you tell me which VV battery device you are using? And what does "LR carto" mean? Basically, I'm interested in knowing the setup you use and where to buy it. Is it considered a "mod"? Thanks

i started with a volt that i still use at work but when driving or at home i use a provari mini vv its not cheep but worth the money. I use the volt cartos at work with juices i buy from different online venders if you are looking for a real good tabbaco flaver check out eliquidplanent.com.
on my provari i use tanks and also drip
as fsr as morning buzz i still get it i just use a higher nic i use 24 in the morning 18 all day n 11 at night

 

[Pappy]

I usually don't do this, but my advice for you would be to go straight to the Provari. It's a high quality device that a lot of people here own and rave about. I don't own one, but there is no doubt that it works well and is extremely well built. It is variable voltage and will allow you to crank up the voltage to get the best out of the atomizer/cartomizer/tank and juice you are using. Go to Provape.com and check it out.

I would also recommend putting a Vivi Nova tank on the Provari. It has been the most reliable and least fussy juice delivery system I've used.

Then there's the never ending quest for the "perfect" juice. If you find it, let me know.

 

[appletux]

The provari is good, but you don't need it, unless you are a professional vaper LOL.

 

[Pappy]

One more thing. You may know this, but since you're new, it needs to be said. Someone is going to recommend buying some some e-cig that uses stacked batteries. In my opinion (and the opinion of lots of other people more experienced than me), that is risky business and is best avoided.

The batteries that e-cigs use are, by necessity, more powerful than typical batteries. They have to be used properly and given plenty of respect. Stacking them is not for the faint of heart or those of use who are more risk averse.

In my opinion, there are plenty of options out there (such as the Provari) that work great and don't use stacked batteries. So, for me, it's not worth the risk.

 

[Pappy]

The provari is good, but you don't need it, unless you are a professional vaper LOL.

Hmmmm. Don't know what a "professional vaper" is. I don't get paid to vape, but my life depends on it. So I guess I'm a professional.

BTW, I don't own a Provari and have no axe to grind.

 

[Faint]

As someone who's quit cigarettes earlier this year - I can tell you that I haven't found a way to match that first cigarette in the morning. But it's not the end of the world, over time you that will past. You just have to fight the urge until you get over cigarettes completely. I've tried to smoke a cigarette on Saturday night for the first time since I started vaping (May 1st) and let me tell you, that cigarette was absolutely disgusting.

So while I personally can't advise anything worthwhile, I can tell you that you will get over it in due time. Hang tough

 

[paulw2014]

I usually don't do this, but my advice for you would be to go straight to the Provari. It's a high quality device that a lot of people here own and rave about. I don't own one, but there is no doubt that it works well and is extremely well built. It is variable voltage and will allow you to crank up the voltage to get the best out of the atomizer/cartomizer/tank and juice you are using. Go to Provape.com and check it out.

I would also recommend putting a Vivi Nova tank on the Provari. It has been the most reliable and least fussy juice delivery system I've used.

Then there's the never ending quest for the "perfect" juice. If you find it, let me know.

Is "atomizer" "cartomizer", and "tank" pretty much the equivalent part? I believe cartomizer is just a cartridge that's integrated with a atomizer right? But what about the tank? Is that just another word for cartridge...only that you fill it with liquid juice?

I guess I'm a little confused to what exactly a Provari is, specifically I went to their site and looked at the V2, and I still don't understand what that is. For $159, it seems I just get the "basic unit" without batteries or chargers or atomizers or cartomizers...they are all options, as shown here:

ProVari Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette

Then what am I exactly getting for $159? just a variable voltage microprocessor/battery compartment?

thanks

 

[dragonbone]

I usually don't do this, but my advice for you would be to go straight to the Provari.

I would also recommend putting a Vivi Nova tank on the Provari. It has been the most reliable and least fussy juice delivery system I've used.

Personally, I would NOT recommend a Provari or a Vivi nova to a rank newbie who just yesterday went to Walgreens to buy a disposable. Would you?