Recommend an e-cig for complete newbie

[Elapid]

State Capitalism, what we are saying here is that E-cigs are a much healthier option than smoking cigarettes. I think all of us used to smoke tobacco and were never able to put it down until the personal vaporizer was developed. All of us also know that starting an addictive habit might not be in your best interest. Trust me when I say that all of us are grateful for the E-cig and would recommend that, in their best interest, anybody smoking tobacco would be better off with the E-cig. I'm just not sure it would be best for you as you don't have a habit yet. Nicotine is a demon habit and I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy, well OK maybe my enemy but certainly not you.

 

[AJMoore]

STOP - Walk away from the cigarettes (either kind).

 

[Raenon]

Of course we don't want to see anyone else get addicted. We're not here to try to drum up business for anyone. :/

E-cigarettes/personal vaporizers are primarily for smokers who are looking to switch to something less harmful. We're not trying to attract new smokers/children/anyone else who is not already addicted.
That being said, no one will stop you if you're an adult who has made the choice that you wish to smoke or vape. That's the core of our argument- the right to choose to have a vice that harms no one - hopefully, not even ourselves!

If you are set on using nicotine, OR vaping zero nic, I'd suggest finding one of the cheap "disposable" 510s. This is a very inexpensive way to start, and the 510s are one of the most popular brand of device anyway, so you'll have compatibility with new parts down the road if you continue.

If you don't continue, then you're out very little.

 

[State Capitalism]

Ok. Thank you everyone for your advice, and your concern. I appreciate it!

I have always had a weird fascination with addiction for some reason, and wanted to experience it first hand. E-cigs seemed like a rather harmless way to do so. But perhaps I am biting off more than I can chew, eh?

 

[katkin]

Ok. Thank you everyone for your advice, and your concern. I appreciate it!

I have always had a weird fascination with addiction for some reason, and wanted to experience it first hand. E-cigs seemed like a rather harmless way to do so. But perhaps I am biting off more than I can chew, eh?

Well, as a nicotine addict, I'd say yes! If you just want a buzz, go have a pint, ok?

 

[phulcrum]

Or drink a couple cups of really strong coffee, chug a couple energy drinks...

 

[Kate51]

Ok. Thank you everyone for your advice, and your concern. I appreciate it!

I have always had a weird fascination with addiction for some reason, and wanted to experience it first hand. E-cigs seemed like a rather harmless way to do so. But perhaps I am biting off more than I can chew, eh?

Glad you don't want to "try" a snake-bite addiction just for the heck of it.
Although an addiction to any substance is likely to bite you in the end. 8-o

 

[umop apisdn]

I'll be different and play the devil's advocate. Go for a little nic, you might like it, and it might improve your life. The opposite is also true, you might be adding an addiction that has no benefit in your life. It's a coin toss.

But, this is the first time nicotine has really been available in such an easy way alone, and without the alkaloids/MAOIs in tobacco. You may not get as addicted as you would smoking analogs. But, you would also be a guinea pig.

If you like nicotine, use a low nic concentration. But, also get zero nic options and try to keep yourself from being "addicted". If you can enjoy vaping without it, don't.

We do say vaping is safe, but in a relative sense. We have no idea how dangerous is really is, but we find a LOT of comfort knowing that there's none of the toxic chemicals from smoke, and that all of the chemicals are "safe" for consumption, nicotine being the most deadly, but generally safe in the concentration used.

But, for a beginner, I'd recommend a 510 or a KR808D-1 (KR8). I only have experience with the 510, but after looking into the KR8, it seems to be a lot less of a hassle, and another way to enjoy the flavor in your juice.

I love my nicotine. I hated the damage from smoking. I won't recommend you try nicotine, but I won't tell you not to. It's your choice. Know the risks, evaluate them for yourself, and make your own decision.

 

[Fedor]

No way you're gonna overdose on anything 18mg and lower. I recommend you get the Mseries. See my sig for the models that i've owned in 08/09'.

 

[CMA4714]

I agree with the others though, if you aren't addicted to nicotine, don't get addicted. But don't hate e-cigs. If they are better for you why not try them.

 

[Remie]

Ok. Thank you everyone for your advice, and your concern. I appreciate it!

I have always had a weird fascination with addiction for some reason, and wanted to experience it first hand. E-cigs seemed like a rather harmless way to do so. But perhaps I am biting off more than I can chew, eh?

OK - I may be biting off more than I can chew, and I'm ready for the potential back-lash, but I feel so compelled to respond to the above statement.

There is nothing wrong with having a "weird fascination" with addiction. Do you really want to experience it first hand? To me, that is no different than saying, "I'm fascinated with Metastatic Osteosarcoma and I really want to experience it first hand." I'm sorry, no - you don't.

Addiction is disease, period. Addiction is chronic, complex, resistant to treatment and subject to relapse. It is physiological and psychological compulsivity. Addicts are aware of the negative consequences, yet prioritize their lives in order to satisfy the compulsions because in that moment, they have no choice.

None of us woke up one day saying, "Today is the day I'm going to become an addict!" I don't care if the substance is delivered via a cigarette, a bottle, a needle, a pill, a computer screen or the refrigerator, it's all addiction. The only variance is dependent on the substance, the severe negative consequences aren't as obvious to society as a whole, making some addictions "more acceptable" than others.

We have all sacrificed more money than we care to admit because cigarettes had to be priority. I can admit that the money I've spent on cigarettes could have benefited my children, helped pay my bills, enhance my lifestyle, etc. Yet - even with that knowledge, I kept smoking, because I felt I had no other option. The addict voice over rides everything else and tricks you into believing there is no other choice, no other way.

It does not change the fact that those of us here have known for a very long time that we are helpless and powerless over our addiction to cigarettes. A lot of us even gave up hope and accepted the fact that although we may die a slow painful death, there is nothing that can help us quit and stay quit. We've tried everything, and failed, many times.

If you really want to experience "addiction", please go to an open AA or NA meeting, they are held everywhere all times of the day and night. Sit there and listen, really listen to what people are saying.

Go to school and study addiction, become a substance abuse counselor and help addicts. There are many ways to satisfy your fascination with addiction other than choosing what you believe may be the "less harmful" substance and becoming an addict yourself. By doing that, you will lose the cognitive ability to be objective and "fascinated" with the concept, you'll become the concept. The fascination, once reality, will bring negative consequences.

We all would not be here supporting each other through this process otherwise.

Asking for assistance in becoming an addict is lunacy. Wanting to educate yourself about addiction is brilliant. There is a huge difference in those statements.

When I learned about this device that could potentially end my compulsion for cigarettes, I knew that it would not cure my addiction. It is only a tool to help me manage what over time, became unmanageable. It would only help my body heal from all the damage I've done to it over the years and deliver the substance in a less harmful way.

The psychology of addiction is fascinating. There is much more to it than the substance. There is the ritual, the tools, the triggers - all of us have those. We are trying to re-wire our brains not by doing without and suffering, which we know will result in failure, but by changing the rituals, tools, etc. and being hopeful that we will succeed.

Please, rethink your original post. I don't know how old you are, I am suspecting you are young. Why would you give up your freedom and choose enslavement to anything? I can't wrap my brain around that.

/end rant

Remie

*The definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior over, and over, expecting a different outcome*

 

[Torikan]

I must say that I honestly enjoy smoking. It feels like a break from my busy life. I smoke about 4 a day, and all 4 of them do what I need them to do. The 510 I bought has replaced those 4 analogs, and transformed them into six puffs, four times a day. It's funny how I can't tell the difference between craving the nicotine and craving the smoking experience. Either way, I gettem both.

for the kid, smoking is dumb if you dont need to do it. If you wanna try some hookah-esque style smoking, definitely get the 0nic juice. I'm going to gradually decrease my nic level every month until I'm down to 0nic. This is a hassle that no young person should have to deal with.

Remember, Your health is more fun than smoking is...

 

[AlexTM]

I'd also strongly recommend sticking to zero-nic-juice. If you have made it so far in your life without nicotine, chances are, you can make it further. Having said that, however, pure nic is not particuar risky, it seems. That is, if it is thinned properly. It is however highly addictive, far more than say, alcohol. You probably don't want that.

Also, get yourself a UK supplier. A certain fan brigade is overdoing their job, it seems, if they start telling people to pay for oversea shipping when there is no need for it. Here's a list.