Im Confused About Vitamin-E Acetate

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Roy Raymond

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I was reading this article Vitamin E Acetate In Vape Juice - Get The Facts about Vitamin E Acetate and I'm a bit confused. Were people getting sick only from CBD vape juice or e-liquid as swell? As 2019 approaches I wanna be more careful about my body and health and I just want to get all the facts I can.

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From what it seems like THC carts from shady dealers were being cut with vitamin E oil. This was likely done for two reasons:

1) Vitamin E oil is a dark, thick oil that looks very much like e-juice, THC carts etc. 2) It's fairly inexpensive and widely available so dealers likely started to use it as "filler" to stretch out their actual use of THC oils...but who knows the extent of that. Someone could have filled entire carts with the stuff and passed it off as THC. Just my guess.
 

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I recently heard that patients with the horrible lung issues had fluid from their lungs tested and 100% had Vitamin E acetate from THC vape... NOT REGULAR E-LIQUID! Please use the cannabis forum for more info. Notmaol e-juice made from VG/PG nicotine and flavors are safe.
 

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I was reading this article Vitamin E Acetate In Vape Juice - Get The Facts about Vitamin E Acetate and I'm a bit confused. Were people getting sick only from CBD Vape Juice or E-Liquid as swell? As 2019 approaches I wanna be more careful about my body and health and I just want to get all the facts I can.

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Roy
It was mainly black market THC carts (karts?), I'm not certain that there was any CBD involvement because I believe that they were testing for THC not CBD. And as far as I know there were no people who they could definitively decide had received it from nicotine only Vape juice. The aprox 11% that they were referring to that had only reported using nicotine, a large percentage of them they found out that they were lying many of them when looking at their medical records it revealed that they did indeed use THC others had friends and family report that they were using THC there may still be some that claimed to only have used nicotine and were either not tested or tested too late. Many of the reports have been compiled from the past well after the reported incident so it's going to be hard to gather concrete evidence on something that happened four months ago but I think I can be safe saying none of them where vaping actual nicotine only Ejuice and nothing else. However if you want to be extremely cautious stay away from nicotine e-juice purchased through the black market make sure that you're getting your ejuice through a reputable retail or brick and mortar store whether it's online or not just don't buy it from some guy named Shady G standing on the corner if you know what I mean I doubt that that's something you're doing anyway but there's really no Financial reason to add vitamin E acetate into nic Ejuice because vegetable glycerin (which is the thickening agent used for e-juice) is way cheaper than vitamin E acetate so it would actually cost them a lot more money to use vitamin E instead. Now with THC that's not true THC oil is much higher cost to produce or to purchase then vitamin E acetate so there is a financial reason to do that but still I'm pretty sure it was relegated to mostly if not all black market THC. So just stick to retail or online businesses for your nicotine e-juice needs and you'll be fine.
 

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That is used in black market THC carts....The reason is they cut the content with of THC and add that in to make it Thick. Apparently, those buying it on the street think the thicker the better.

I doubt you will find it in any nicotine regular vape juices as it has no value in them. It is more expensive than PG or VG so why would they even consider it?
 

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    A huge percentage of the population is walking around with a THC oil pen. Out of all of the stories that I've heard about the lung illness ONE of them was purchased at a legit dispensary, in Washington IIRC. There's no reason to scare legit dispensary purchased THC vapers into thinking they are at risk. Most of the population of CO is vaping THC oil with no issue.
     

    stols001

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    Well,, while that infographic in the first post you made would confuse almost anyone, no, the likelihood of a professional liquid maker using a product that a) is more expensive than PG or VG and also is completely different as far as viscosity, color, etc and b) is likely to kill off the customer base the vape retailer is so carefully nurturing.

    C) Legit business don't do this. OF ANY SORT, and that includes THC, CBD AND nicotine. These business all have licenses, to some degree or another and of varying types in different states, but t hey are ALL required to confirm to various health code standards, The use of Vitamin E oil in ANY concentrate would NOT confirm to health code standards.

    SHOULD a business be insane enough to try it (they aren't) the source of the outbreak would be traced back to that retailer pretty quickly and they'd be closed, accused of manslaughter at best and murder at worst.

    I'm not saying all ejuiice (of any time) is the same, completely free of any impurities or anything else. There are standards of acceptable impurity in any manufacturing type of deal.

    However, I would say the LEGIT e-cig market (for anything) is about as safe as it is going to get. They're all under a lot of scrutiny these days.

    The type of person who wants to make a quick buck by diluting THC (very expensive vaping concentrate) with something that will KILL its customers strikes me as a black market operation. Black markets often do not tend to think of their customers as a valuable "base" as the likelihood of dying via overdose, the dealers themselves being locked and caught up, are the types to do this. They are thinking of a quick buck NOW and what they can do with it, and who they kill along the way is not of particular interest to them. They can move on, to the next market, the next substance, etc..

    This is why I say legalize everything, it greatly REDUCES the black market. It does not eliminate it completely. There are always folks who are gonna want to pay slightly LESS with MORE RISK for Mexican field weed, even though I'm ready to bet that gram for gram, if potency were tested, legal stuff is actually better value.

    I say let Darwin care for those folks. However, ,we can have a sane society for those intelligent enough to seek one.

    TL:DR YOU ARE FINE WITH ANY TYPE OF VAPE IF REMAINNING WITHIN THE LEGAL MARKET except that CBD is a "Supplement" in some states and sort of unregulated. It's unlikely to kill you, it's label may claim FAR more potency than it actually has.

    People starting a company though sort of tend to not want to kill off customers on purpose. There is a lot involved with starting a business much of it unpleasant.
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    ScottP

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    I too was concerned if my eliquid had vitamin E acetate in it, so I decided to ask my manufacturer. I said "Self, are you putting vitamin E acetate in my eliquid?" To which, I replied "No, I have never and will never use vitamin E acetate in any eliquid". I was satisfied with the answer.

    Sometimes it pays to DIY.
     

    440BB

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    Only THC and possibly CBD liquid, typically in prefilled cartridges, was diluted using vitamin e acetate. Mostly street but as each state has different testing requirements and none had been testing for vitamin e acetate, it show up in some dispensaries as well. My state just banned those types of cartridges throughout Michigan as they now want to test samples of current products.

    Misinformation continues to proliferate that traditional nicotine ecigs were a concern, while testing (slow as a boat from china, no, slower) has shown ecigs were not the cause. Ecig users know for the most part that oils of any type are not safe to vaporize and should be avoided.
     
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    The type of person who wants to make a quick buck by diluting THC (very expensive vaping concentrate) with something that will KILL its customers strikes me as a black market operation.
    I don't think that anyone did this deliberately, with the intent to harm users. The informal THC industry came up with Vitamin E Acetate roughly one year ago as a cutting agent because it's tasteless, odorless, mixes well with the base, has the correct viscosity to fool customer into believing the product is uncut, and it's commonly used in products that are applied topically to the skin. Thus they assumed it was safe to use.
     
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    Punk In Drublic

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    I'm pretty confident that Vitamin E Acetate is considerably more expensive than the PG and VG carriers used in nicotine e-liquids. Thus there is no reason anyone would use it in nicotine e-liquid.

    Significantly more expensive.

    Vitamin E Acetate was used as a thickening agent. With THC carts, the higher the viscosity, the presumed higher levels of THC. Processors scaled back the THC content, replacing it with Vit E Acetate to maintain a level of viscosity, thus decreasing the overhead cost, and increasing profit. (Vit E is cheaper than processed THC)

    There would be absolutely no reason to use Vitamin E Acetate with nicotine based e-liquid. It would contradict the whole objective of using the product, which is to reduce cost.
     

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    I don't think that anyone did this deliberately, with the intent to harm users. The informal THC industry came up with Vitamin E Acetate roughly one year ago as a cutting agent because it's tasteless, odorless, mixes well with the base, and it's commonly used in products that are applied topically to the skin. Thus they assumed it was safe to use.

    It's called customer retention, sometimes it fails miserably. But then we know that…on a grand scale.

    Good luck. :)
     
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