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Could someone please educate me about the more advanced vaporizers? I want to understand if there's compatibility between different brands as far as building your own mod, not that I really know what a mod is, & I'd also like to know of some good websites to go to to find some quality products, vaporizers, not the ones that look like an analog cigarette. I also don't know what ANY of the abbreviations or terms mean.
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These blogs may help:

Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder from Cigalikes to Ego's & Mods.

Proper Terminology: A Guide to Common Juice Attachments

This website is very helpful for a beginning vaper: Vapers Table

There are basically three classes of e-cigarettes:

  • Cigalikes, or the stick cigarette-sized batteries.
  • Intermediate eGo class batteries.
  • Mods, or APV's (advanced personal vaporizors).

Mods generally use replaceable rechargeable batteries. Instead of disposing the entire device when the batteries stop working, you can continue using the mod and just replace the much cheaper replaceable batteries.

Mods can be either mechanical (basically just a battery holder) or be regulated - a micro-computer keeps the vape quality consistant despite the battery drain status during use, and also offer variable voltage and protective circuitry built-in. Often have an LED screen, ohm and voltage meters, and other useful features.

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Before even thinking about "building" your own mod, I strongly recommend purchasing a few first and learning much more about the mechanics and construction of mods, about the high-powered batteries they use, and about mod safety. Not knowing what you are doing by building a mod can be dangerous and you could end up blowing your jaw off by literally making a pipe bomb. It's happened before.

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

Mechanical Mod Proper Usage Guide
 
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Firstly: Welcome to the forums.

A mod is essentially any device that goes beyond a low capacity battery with the most basic functions (which is often just an ON/OFF button - usually also used to start/trigger the heating coil so that you can take a drag and Vape). A mod can be a "box" or can be a "tube", though these shapes and sizes can vary along product lines. For an example of a mod: an iTaste VTR is a mod, as is the Provari - two completely different designs, but they are both mods. The two I mentioned there are both electrical and incorporate varying levels of digital technology. Along with those, you can get mechanical mods - these mods consist of a battery (many are cross-compatible with different batteries), something to hold eliquid and a button to complete the circuit to trigger the heating element. You can get more advanced mechanical mods, but as soon as you involve some form of digital technology (such as digital LCD and buttons to control voltage/wattage digitally), you've ventured away from a mechanical mod.

As to building your own mods, it can be complicated and dangerous, if you don't know what you're doing. Things like batteries are normally the same among a variety of different mods, and the electrical soldering and components can also be very similar across brands and devices. See the modding forum for tutorials and more tips and info.

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Could someone please educate me about the more advanced vaporizers? I want to understand if there's compatibility between different brands as far as building your own mod, not that I really know what a mod is, & I'd also like to know of some good websites to go to to find some quality products, vaporizers, not the ones that look like an analog cigarette. I also don't know what ANY of the abbreviations or terms mean.
Thanks


You can get an Ego with a Ce4 or an RDA, or RBA but only if it's not Sub Ohm. Or maybe a VV or VW or maybe a DNA20 or 30, with AGA-T2, or RDA with Dual micro dragon quad twisted nano tricrow with cotton eco-wool silica auto dripper.

Try that out ;)
 

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Mod refers to just about any of the bigger units with removable batteries.
in reality they should be called advanced person vaporizers

when they came out they were "modded" tubes and the name stuck.

all of the bigger units offer 510 standard threading (inside the topcap) with several also offering the outside or EGO threading.

once moving up compatibility usually isnt an issue.

buying a "mod" and building "mods" are unrelated.
 

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Heh, as others have stated, a little bit of lingo is needed. But let me go over the basics.

First, for compatibility. Most ecigs are compatible throughout the whole range of product lines and most will fit together using a standard called a 510 connector. There are a few that have older style or proprietary connections, so make sure it has at least the 510 connector if you're buying something. The second type of connector is EGO threads, most devices are compatible with both. Also, the battery voltages vary a bit, but are usually between 3.2-4.2 volts with most device being in the 3.6 volt range.

Second, there are different sizes of batteries that determine the overall class of the item. those are as follows:

Cigalikes: batteries are as small as a regular cigarette and resemble the size and shape of a standard cigarette. These have the lowest battery capacity and are what you see in the grocery stores and in a lot of convenience stores. Blu is a popular cigalike brand. 510 sized connector is what you need to make sure it has at this size.

EGO: most of the complaints about the cigalikes, is the low battery capacity, so they came out with a larger battery. these are about the size of a medium sized cigar. This is the most popular sized battery and it opens up a wide variety of atomizers. most of these have EGO threads as well . Some have a variable voltage (Aka VV) option so you can output the voltage to change the vapor output, or to match the capabiltiy of certain atomizers.

MOD: a mod generally means their battery can be replaced. there are three types of mods:

Mechanical (mech): These are usually just a threaded pipe or box with a 510 connector at the end. a switch supplies the voltage straight to the connector at the end. usually these have no wires in them. The differences between them is how the switch locks, how they vary the size of the pipe to adapt to whatever size battery you have in them. These provide the maximum output from the battery which may cause them to short and explode if you are not knowledgeable about what battery you put in and what coils you are usuing.

VV/VW mods: VV (Variable voltage)/ VW (Variable Wattage) mods are tubes or boxes with some electronics at the end. These are the largest of the mods, and the electronics allows you to change the voltage or wattage at will. Usually the electronics limit the amount of amp output, so not all coil builds are possible with these. These usually offer more protection than mechanicals by having limits set on them, so are much safer than a mechanical mod.

Hybrid: These are simply an atomizer hooked straight into a tube and switch. they are a single piece unit and cannot be adapted to as wide of a variety of batteries and atomizers and batteries as the previous two. Hybrids are the smallest mods of the previous two.

That is a brief explanation, but should give you a starting reference as to what's out there. As far as making your own mod, I highly advise you get a pre-made one first to learn everything about voltage and wattage issues. Not knowing can be dangerous. The lithium batteries in Ecigs are powerful and should be respected. Remember, you are putting a potentially dangerous battery inches from your face, and without knowing what you're doing, they can "vent" violently. The batteries themselves are no more dangerous than the cell phone batteries people you use every day, but the difference is the device the battery is hooked up to. If you decide to make the device, make sure you learn what you're doing before attempting to make one.
 

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That is a brief explanation, but should give you a starting reference as to what's out there. As far as making your own mod, I highly advise you get a pre-made one first to learn everything about voltage and wattage issues. Not knowing can be dangerous. The lithium batteries in Ecigs are powerful and should be respected. Remember, you are putting a potentially dangerous battery inches from your face, and without knowing what you're doing, they can "vent" violently. The batteries themselves are no more dangerous than the cell phone batteries people you use every day, but the difference is the device the battery is hooked up to. If you decide to make the device, make sure you learn what you're doing before attempting to make one.

"Brief" ;)

Great reply, btw.
 
You can get an Ego with a Ce4 or an RDA, or RBA but only if it's not Sub Ohm. Or maybe a VV or VW or maybe a DNA20 or 30, with AGA-T2, or RDA with Dual micro dragon quad twisted nano tricrow with cotton eco-wool silica auto dripper.

Try that out ;)

I really appreciate your help, but I didn't understand most of that, lol
 
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