I'm never buying e-juice online ever again.

[gummyblood]

Gee, I would have never considered myself to have expensive taste, but I guess maybe thats the case? The two juices I just bought at my local vape shop today were $15 for 10ml! Ahhh!

In reality, besides just vaping, I like a lot of things that are cheap. I shop at the dollar store all the time. I don't think its fair to say that MBV is a lesser quality because they are cheap... I just honestly think they don't make good tasting mixtures sometimes. For example, when I think back to Ms T: her flavors were sooo good, always good, but her customer service was a nightmare. why? because she was the only person ever working there. from what I heard, she never allowed others to work for her because she wanted her recipes to herself. On the other hand, MBV has immediate creation and shipping with every order, which would look to me like they had a large amount of workers. so this would clearly mean that all the bottles are made by someone different, therefore come out different. what you are seeing in one person's review of a flavor may not be what you get.

Blah!

So, in regards to all these suggestions about DIY, how would I start? Where do you buy the supplies? Isn't it just as risky as buying juice (you know, like one site may have good flavorings and another may suck)? So many questions !

 

[Ladiekali]

i so far only like mister eliquid and prefer them after 2 weeks steep time.
i've tried mbv, felt lucky to find one flavor i liked blue moo, not a favorite though.
tried many from high desert vapes, they are about the same as mbv in quality and taste.
tried diy, it seemed to match mbv and dv... no real quality.

mister eliquid i love them all so far.
Myster e, pure michigan, sweetsmarts, neptune, four of a kind, peach cobbler, eye Q, pink lady, pink dragon, blue voodoo, bubble ice,
dime piece and jade tiger.
all of them are hits for me. all are adv's.
blue voodoo i thought i hated, tried it 3 weeks later and i can't put it down.
i jusst make sure to order before i get low so they have time to steep.
but some were really good fresh... neptune tastes the best right out the mailbox. it's so good a 30ml is gone pretty quick.

anyway, the price is midrange, more than mbv but less than say AIV which i havn't tried yet, been meaning too. but mr e is so darn affordable. and so darn yummy.

 

[EleanorR]

So, in regards to all these suggestions about DIY, how would I start? Where do you buy the supplies? Isn't it just as risky as buying juice (you know, like one site may have good flavorings and another may suck)? So many questions !

See here: DIY E-Liquid

Good luck!

 

[powerband]

the best way to get store bought juice is to walk in to a B&M store and try it. you might do better to DIY your own. I stopped buying store bought juice after vaping my first month and 10ml's only costs me about 30 or 40 cents a bottle... and that's using a new bottle, reused bottle and the price drops to 10 or 20 cents per bottle.
Big mark up on juice, kinda like if you buy a car they know you have to buy gas for it, imagine if you could only make your own gasoline! LOL! good luck and don't let the bad juice exp. stop you from vaping.

 

[jmzjmz]

I have a box full of stuff I wish I could get my money back on. The places that have quality liquid are fewer than the ones that do not. Bottom barrel prices usually get you bottom barrel juice. Use a good company, wait for a coupon. See Deals and Steals. Or buy the deal of the day with a good company.
1) Ahlusions
2) Highbrow
3) The Plume room (deal of the day)
4) Mountain Oak Vapors (deal of the day)
5) Steam Juice
these are all good quality ejuice vendors that have sales and do not disapoint

I would have to disagree with the mentality that "bottom barrel prices, bottom barrel juices". Not everyone feels that it is necessary to gouge customers to just make a profit.

 

[powerband]

not risky. you buy the PG and VG in food grade they have no flavoring and since you vape zero nic, no cost or danger of using buyiong mixing it.
the only risk is buying a flavoring you might not like but most flavoring is as much or less than a bottle of juice and you can make many many batches from one bottle.

start simple and buy a small bottle of PG and a small bottle of VG check out flavoring you want and get some syringes w/o needles from walmart.. about 40 cents each. use old bottles rinsed well.
mix your flavoring at 10% to start and work up from there.
give it a try. its not much different than making a batch of cookies.
when you find a flavor you like and you realize a bottle only cost you 20 or 30 cents you'll never look back!

 

[VapinSweetZ]

It does require a lot of trial and error, that's the main reason I rather try out brands that carry 5ml or sample packs, or available in B&Ms...
But after you find out which brands you like, and what flavors you enjoy vaping, the chances of getting a "horrible" liquids online are getting really small

Personally, I won't order again after few liquids that I haven't enjoyed from the same brand, probably their personal taste and/or ingredients are just doesn't fit my taste, so why bother...

 

[neutrontech]

I would have to disagree with the mentality that "bottom barrel prices, bottom barrel juices". Not everyone feels that it is necessary to gouge customers to just make a profit.

I agree. I haven't tried many of the vendors listed, but I've been extremely happy with MBV. They are the first I've tried that I feel safe ordering new flavors. Liked pretty much everyone I've tried.

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[VapinSweetZ]

+1, ECB are one of my favorites, most of the expensive liquids I tried was too confusing and just okay...

 

[Uncle Willie]

There are many great comments and suggestions on the thread ..

You know how they have "Wine Trails" .. ?? A route to follow with various wineries along the way .. ?? Perhaps we'll see a "Liquid Trail" where various B&M's can be visited and their wares sampled ..

I admit to using MBV the "Walmart" of sellers .. however, I not only DIY but I experiment with commercially available liquid .. I order it in the highest nic strength and then dilute with my own PG / VG to the mg I need .. and have a stash of flavors that I use to then temper the mix if the flavor gets too weak, etc ..

In the meantime, give this site a shot :

Vapor Rater

 

[neutrontech]

+1, ECB are one of my favorites, most of the expensive liquids I tried was too confusing and just okay...

This is a prefect example of individual preference. Honestly I'm not convinced price has much to do with how good a juice is. I've tried several of ECB juices, including their popular Dragon line. I wasn't impressed with any of their juices. I gave them all away. I gave them all a fair chance including steeping for several weeks.

The local b&m where I got started had only one juice I liked, which is still my adv. I had given up on juices and just stocked up on that one flavor. One day I ordered a bunch of stuff from MBV and they sent me a free sample of Guava juice. I tried it and loved it. I was so excited that I had found another juice I liked. So I ordered more and they sent me peach as a sample. Again I loved it. Now I was thinking that's 2 for 2, I'm gonna try some more. So I ordered several flavors and loved them all.

Now I'm not so discouraged and I have noted all the vendors in this thread. I'm excited to try something from them all.

I guess my point is that we are all lucky there are so many choices out there. Everyone has individual tastes. How can someone bash a company just because they didn't like a flavor? It's such a personal thing. I moved on from ECB because I didn't like their stuff, but I didn't jump on the Internet saying their stuff was horrible and are second rate. In fact I have nothing bad to say about them other than I didn't like their juices.

I can't stand Chinese food but I dont run around claiming they are bottom barrel foods. Some of the finest and most expensive things in the world taste like raw sewage to me. So maybe I'm just lucky that the "cheap" juice satisfies my pallet.

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[Amraann]

My hubby loves the guava from MBV.

I like liquids from vaporrenu Ecto cooler is great!
Also Sour apple from V4L
My new fav all day is Hawaiian rainbow from namaskarvapes. (Think Hawaiian punch)
I do not have a local vape shop here so I have to order online.

 

[dan1boy]

I would have to disagree with the mentality that "bottom barrel prices, bottom barrel juices". Not everyone feels that it is necessary to gouge customers to just make a profit.

All due respect but this comment is so naive.

 

[Transient]

All due respect but this comment is so naive.

^ agreed. I really don't get the fascination on here with subpar companies like MBV. Sure, they have great prices, customer service, and shipping time, but the juice itself is pretty meh. I seriously have never found anything from them to be outstanding. I know this is pretty harsh, but it's just my observation... It's boring at best.


That said, I feel like for the most part you get what you pay for. There are quite a few gourmet ejuice companies who are really putting out quality stuff and charging good money for it. Whether or not you want to pay it is up to you. For me, I don't mind paying just under a dollar per ml if the flavor is there and the company is reliable. You have to remember you're not just paying for the liquid itself, but also for the service, the hard work, the research and trial and error that goes into those juices. You have to think they've designed it at a specific price to bring in a certain amount of money for their venture. Sometimes though, a company will stick it's prices way up to appeal to the audience that pays top dollar, and end up ripping people off. If you find a company you really believe in, it's definitely worth it (for me) to help ensure their future by giving them your money. I do agree with the OP about not buying a juice before you can taste it. I've made that mistake so many times and have nothing to show for it but bottles and bottles full of stuff I will never use...

 

[dan1boy]

Transient...You are brilliant. Well said.

 

[Uncle Willie]

Sometimes though, a If you find a company you really believe in, it's definitely worth it (for me) to help ensure their future by giving them your money.

And that would apply to both the low as well as the high .. if MBV works for people, or any other maker, for that matter, that's what counts .. after all, there is no magic dust that makes one liquid better or worse than another .. it's PG / VG / some nic and the ability to flavor through, in many cases, trial and error ..

$30 clams for 30ml .. ?? It's highway robbery considering the cost of ingredients .. however, if the mixer is gifted, if the time is spent in experimentation and it's not ..... in the garage or bathroom, it can and does find a following ..

The darling liquid vendors of the Month come and go .. it's been that way for some time ..

 

[neutrontech]

In all honesty, cost has never really been a deciding factor in my juice purchases. I would have been perfectly happy paying higher prices at my local shop, had their juices appealed to me. I firmly believe in supporting local businesses, and almost always pay higher prices because of it. My choice to purchase from MBV is purely based on satisfaction.

That being said, I'm sure I'd like some of the vendors posted. When I get around to ordering some of their stuff, and find one I like, I'll purchase more. Again, dont really care about price, as long as I'm happy. So since I'm happy with my current selection of juices, the low price is merely a bonus.

Because taste is so subjective, what one finds subpar another will find delectable, and vice versa.

I love the selection of juices out there. Something for everyone. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what others think. As long as I'm happy, then I'm happy.

Vape on!

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[jmzjmz]

^ agreed. I really don't get the fascination on here with subpar companies like MBV. Sure, they have great prices, customer service, and shipping time, but the juice itself is pretty meh. I seriously have never found anything from them to be outstanding. I know this is pretty harsh, but it's just my observation... It's boring at best.


That said, I feel like for the most part you get what you pay for. There are quite a few gourmet ejuice companies who are really putting out quality stuff and charging good money for it. Whether or not you want to pay it is up to you. For me, I don't mind paying just under a dollar per ml if the flavor is there and the company is reliable. You have to remember you're not just paying for the liquid itself, but also for the service, the hard work, the research and trial and error that goes into those juices. You have to think they've designed it at a specific price to bring in a certain amount of money for their venture. Sometimes though, a company will stick it's prices way up to appeal to the audience that pays top dollar, and end up ripping people off. If you find a company you really believe in, it's definitely worth it (for me) to help ensure their future by giving them your money. I do agree with the OP about not buying a juice before you can taste it. I've made that mistake so many times and have nothing to show for it but bottles and bottles full of stuff I will never use...

In all due respect, some people actually get into this industry to further evolve it. You can pay $30 for juice and it can be atrocious. We're in it because we vape and want to give people an excellent quality product at a decent price.

I'm not saying to continue to support subpar companies, but don't lump everyone that sells juices cheap, as being "cheap" juice.

 

[vjc0628]

all I can say is if you base that decision on mt baker and mrs T that would be really sad

honestly getting started is tough going through some bad to get to the good

but after going through this forum you can make educated decision's
knowing the issues with places like those 2
finding the better vendors
finding some people here that have similar tastes
and you would be surprised how amazing juice can be

 

[neutrontech]

In all due respect, some people actually get into this industry to further evolve it. You can pay $30 for juice and it can be atrocious. We're in it because we vape and want to give people an excellent quality product at a decent price.

I'm not saying to continue to support subpar companies, but don't lump everyone that sells juices cheap, as being "cheap" juice.

I agree. A general rule of thumb is you get what you pay for. But that's not always true. Food is a perfect example. There's a lot of disgusting expensive food in fine dining restaurants, but there's a ton a wonderful restaurants with delicious heeping servings for relatively cheap. Five dollar burger or $60 sautéed goat testicles. Some love the goat balls I'm sure, but give me the burger.

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