I'm new here, but I just want to say I'm sick from vaping on a Tugboat clone

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I should note that I am fairly allergic to nickel, so any impure metals would do SOMETHING to me, but I usually have to be touching the metal for extended periods of time for any adverse reactions. Never heard of issues with breathing it.

For instance, I think kanthal has nickel in it, but I've suffered no ill effects from vaping on my Tobh with kanthal. Might be irrelevant.

I think you have just dicovered the root cause of your illness. If the atty is made of inferior metal you could be getting nickel from it. I would assume ingesting nickel would be much worse than the skin contact.
 
Oh, I had that allergy test done about 2-3 years ago after college after getting severe rashes on my stomach and arm. Turns out my watch had nickel in it and my belt buckle had it too. Kind of a pain in the ... to keep your belt buckle off your skin.

Luckily I'm only allergic to hay and nickel. It could be worse. Do you really think this is what could be causing it?
 

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Ok I have a theory here (it may be totally bonkers, so take it with a grain of salt, I am not a medical professional, allergy specialist etc) I also have a nickel allergy (copper too - LAME) so I avoid anything metal and black without a clear coat or anything copper because most black coatings (even black tattoo ink) often contain nickel. My *guess* would be it may be an issue related to the coating and nickel.

I have never attempted use of a copper or a coating that could potentially have nickel knowingly just to be on the safe side. I have only been diagnosed via skin test and skin reaction to these metals so I just generally try to avoid ingesting them in any manner when possible.

I use Kanthal and not nichrome as kanthal is iron, aluminum chromium and nichrome is nickel and chromium. I have no issues with Kanthal so I just stick with that as not to test the waters.
 
Oh, you know I forgot to mention something and I'm totally absent minded. With that said, my dizziness is clearing up a little bit.

Been vaping on my Tobh tonight and feel much better.

Right, the thing I forgot about. After getting out of my car when I arrived at work, I noticed I was out of breath and it was hard to breath, like it was extremely humid out. I thought that was the cause.

Then I went inside where there's hardly any humidity and I was still feeling like my breathing is constricted. Could this have been caused by that allergy?
 

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There are not many studies on inhalation of nickel, I did find this:

Nasal provocation test was positive and provoked rhinorrea, sneezing and nostril mucosa increasing of oedema 15-30 minutes after inhalation of nickel sulphate.
Rhinomanometry demonstrated an increase in nasal resistance in all patients in basal conditions; a further expansion of this parameter was observed also in the nasal provocation test
Respiratory manifestations due to nickel
 

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Absolutly. I am not allergic to nickle but a .... load of others. If you are having any trouble breathing I would suggest taking a benadryl. It is available OTC in the allergy section. Difficulty breathing and light headedness can be a warning sign of bad things to come so dont ignore them and hope it will go away. If the benadryl doesnt improve things you should probably seek medical attention. There is nothing I hate more than giving Drs. Money but sometimes ya just gotta do it.
Good luck and keep us posted
 

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Don't be condescending. I'm suffering from a great deal of confusion and dizziness and it's hard to type right now and get my thoughts out, so I see what you're saying.

Mod: Grand Vapor m16 telescopic mod clone (served me well)
Battery: Kidney Puncher 2000 MaH 10a continuous 18650s
Liquids: 100% VG Cap'n Comet (used when I tested with my tobh to make sure it wasn't the juice)

No, I haven't seen a doctor, however, it doesn't take a genius to realize what was going on. I used a Tobh clone and wasn't getting sick and then as soon as I vape the same juice on the same type of kanthal in the Tugboat, I got extremely sick.

I feel like people are defending this stuff very blindly in this thread and insulting me in the process. I'm sick and I just can't think clearly, which sets a great precedent for this forum and its users who aren't receptive at all to possible health risks.

its just odd that so many people use the same atty and dont get sick.... you may have something attributing to your illness but until it is singled out as one of or a combination of aspects of your set up, we as the general public can only assume that there is a multitude of things that can go wrong so we ask the multitude of various questions to sift thru and solve the issue.....

give us some definable senarios of what you think could be the main problem that is making you ill.... is it the atty?? and if it is what is it about the atty that is different from other attys that you can say is causing the problem? What is the atty made of? What is the drip tip made from? are you using the same juice? the same ohms? the same coil set up? the same mod? the same voltage and battery? its a process of elimination to single out the issue at hand....
 

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It's not that. At least, I don't think it's that because I use the same mod and same batteries with my Tobh clone and I've never gotten sick. Not once. It was only once I started using the Tugboat that I got ill.

is your tobh drilled out for more airflow??? or is it the standard hole size? The tugboat has more airflow than a tobh ( standard holes) and with an increase of airflow you get more vape thus more nic.....
 
I drilled out both, but my Tobh gets more vapor, as I've drilled the holes twice. I get a little lightheaded from it from time-to-time, but nothing extreme. I know what it's from when I get lightheaded on that one.

I'm using the same mod, same batteries, same voltage, same wattage, same juice, but I can't tell you what the atty is made from.

I'd have to send it to a metallurgist or something like that. I tell you what, because it'll hurt less than vaping on it again, I'm going to put it against my skin and see if it breaks out. My nickel allergy is mild if i only touch it for 10-15 minutes or so, so it's not a big deal and we can get to the root of the issue.
 
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We have the same allergy! No, no. Not bonkers. You know, without having said what the finish was, you hit the nail on the head. The finish on the Tugboat clone I got is black!

Maybe you just figured it out.

the finish on the tugboat is black?? I thought you said it wasn't painted? If it's black then it's got something other than stainless steel cleanly, and especially if the inside of the topcap is black I'd be concerned with that.

Don't vape something that has a black coating; whatever it is, the black coating is not a simple thing like stainless steel; it is a complex compound containing who knows what and may be putting out some kind of gas when subject to extreme temperatures from the coil.
 
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