Im not a (anti smoker) Preacher but....

[SimpleSins]

If that swift kick in the ... involved basically still being able to smoke, I'd have been all over it. Just about everyone I know that is an adult and smokes isn't happy with the fact that they are paying someone to slowly kill them.

Unless I wanted to try it for myself, I wouldn't believe it. After all, Nicorette gum was supposed to keep us from withdrawing from nicotine. Chantix was supposed to keep us from even wanting the cigarette. Wellbutrin was supposed to eliminate the OCD/habituation element of smoking. Hympnosis, acupuncture, and behavioral therapy were all supposed to help us stop smoking. And we know how well those work, so it's a small wonder that ecigs are viewed with skepticism. I tried it not because there were so many rousing testimonials, but because I was at a point where I had decided I was ready to and everything else had failed, and that this was inexpensive (at least initially...boy does that change once you decide to jump into the deep end) to at least test the waters.

 

[uba egar320]

Unless I wanted to try it for myself, I wouldn't believe it. After all, Nicorette gum was supposed to keep us from withdrawing from nicotine. Chantix was supposed to keep us from even wanting the cigarette. Wellbutrin was supposed to eliminate the OCD/habituation element of smoking. Hympnosis, acupuncture, and behavioral therapy were all supposed to help us stop smoking. And we know how well those work, so it's a small wonder that ecigs are viewed with skepticism. I tried it not because there were so many rousing testimonials, but because I was at a point where I had decided I was ready to and everything else had failed, and that this was inexpensive (at least initially...boy does that change once you decide to jump into the deep end) to at least test the waters.

Yes, but we all loved\love smoking. That's why we are all still basically doing it, just going about it in a better way(we hope). There is no way I'll ever spend a fraction of the money vaping that I did smoking. That is beside the point for me anyways. I've got a 5year old I'd like to stick around a while for. Money is nice to save, but I'll take my life over savings any day of the week. Folks that are shown a vaping device and turn their nose up to it just aren't ready like you said, but that shouldn't be the end of nudging them towards it by loved ones IMO.

 

[SimpleSins]

Yes, but we all loved\love smoking. That's why we are all still basically doing it, just going about it in a better way(we hope). There is no way I'll ever spend a fraction of the money vaping that I did smoking. That is beside the point for me anyways. I've got a 5year old I'd like to stick around a while for. Money is nice to save, but I'll take my life over savings any day of the week. Folks that are shown a vaping device and turn their nose up to it just aren't ready like you said, but that shouldn't be the end of nudging them towards it by loved ones IMO.

There is a fine line that has to be walked. One of those mysterious ingredients in cigarettes must have had a little sumpin-sumpin that worked on the stubborn center of our brains, otherwise we'd have quit cigarettes to stay around with our family long before vaping was invented. I think the best way to convince an erstwhile unwilling smoker is to continue vaping around them, not pushing or even nudging. It's likely as you recovery the spring in your step, a healthy glow, and a much better-smelling "cloud" around you, they'll get a little more intrigued....and then, like a fish to the hook, you'll have them!

But I do understand your point. Maybe because I'm only two months off cigarettes, I still know exactly how I felt with any pressure whatsoever to get off of them, even from my loved ones to do it for my loved ones.

 

[Sandybeach40]

...it ticks me off when someone is so rebellious about quitting smoking that they would rather sacrifice their own health/life to hold "true" to their "leave me alone" mentality when it comes to smoking. I've known my friend for over twenty yrs. We've always smoked....we always agreed anti smoker "Preachers" were annoying as hell ! ...Ok now I have started vaping...gave up smoking over four months ago (no looking bacK)...but she is so rebellious she won't even consider it. I've been very nonchalant with her about vaping but she just turns her nose up to it. I'm pretty much over her and hoping/trying to help her quit and change to vaping. If she wants to be rebellious then so be it. I gave it my best shot with her. It's her Funeral !

I think you can only convert those who are seriously concerned with the health risks of smoking. People who want to quit but cant are the people I think are going to try the PV.

 

[uba egar320]

There is a fine line that has to be walked. One of those mysterious ingredients in cigarettes must have had a little sumpin-sumpin that worked on the stubborn center of our brains, otherwise we'd have quit cigarettes to stay around with our family long before vaping was invented. I think the best way to convince an erstwhile unwilling smoker is to continue vaping around them, not pushing or even nudging. It's likely as you recovery the spring in your step, a healthy glow, and a much better-smelling "cloud" around you, they'll get a little more intrigued....and then, like a fish to the hook, you'll have them!

But I do understand your point. Maybe because I'm only two months off cigarettes, I still know exactly how I felt with any pressure whatsoever to get off of them, even from my loved ones to do it for my loved ones.

And I understand your point as well.

 

[JohnReagan]

I think you can only convert those who are seriously concerned with the health risks of smoking. People who want to quit but cant are the people I think are going to try the PV.

This is a true statement. I created a post about my encounter on Friday evening with 2 physicians, and had a rare chance to speak about my PV. One doctor was very confrontational and a "quit smoking' lecturer. He asked me to quit vaping as well - even at zero nic. Mind control, etc. Couldn't stay on a straight path during his arguments. Yes he's trying to 'help' but his abrasive kick up the a** would make anyone more defiant - with analogs or with vaping. Nobody likes that line of confrontation. I'd love for you to check out the comments on that thread, dockholidaiy - they really opened my eyes.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/125196-2-doctors-1-e-cig-rant.html

 

[kgeiger002]

You've done a beautiful thing K. I too would present the facts of how great it is to be a vaper. How much more enjoyable it is than analogs. I'd be angry inside myself too, because we love these people. Once they resist, then it's their choice, unfortunately. You're a class act.

Nice of you to say that John - Thanks

 

[ShannonS]

As I mentioned before I was never pushy to her about it. All the feelings I presented within this thread are mine and have always been kept in "the vault." She has no idea that I'm even mad at her about this.

You keep using the word rebellious, which brings to mind "resisting control". She is likely picking up on your feelings even if they are in the vault. I would be sneaky and take her places where you can vape and she can't smoke and just let her see how fun and easy it is.

 

[kgeiger002]

I would be sneaky and take her places where you can vape and she can't smoke and just let her see how fun and easy it is.

yeah - I already do that.

 

[markmcs]

I have many relatives and friends who smoke analogs. Some of them, I talk to about vaping, but with others its a waste of time. If someone has no desire to quit, or doesn't want to be bothered about it, just let them be them and you do you! If they ask about it, that's great, but like with anything else, some people just won't care!!