I'm not a smoker. Is this worth getting into?

[gep]

Idontusetobacco:

Check out your medicine cabinet, your beauty products and your food pantry. You'll find PG or VG in a lot of things.

And you're right there is nothing in the forum rules that forbid you from posting here.

I wish you the best and hope that you find the answers that you seek.

With that, I am out...It's time for my nap.

Edit: To jonlefar: Paranoia...hmmm.
We've been burned by suppliers posing as customers in order to drum up business for themselves. Let's just say we're very aware of possibilities.

 

[Nuck]

Suitable People:

• People with a long smoking history suffering from uncomfortable feeling without smoking cigarette
• People working in no-smoking areas for long time but having habit of smoking

Forbidden People:

• Minors under the age of 18
• People without the habit of smoking
• People allergic to nicotine or any components of inhalants
• Pregnant and breastfeeding women

See..that puts me in the forbidden category and there is no way that anyone, antis, the government, or even the people on this board are going to tell me that I can't vape.

There are many reasons to vape...mine just don't happen to be yours. Maybe that's why I respond to the OP a bit differently.

 

[idontusetobacco]

I'm emotionally devastated the OP called me an ... hole in a public forum.

I'm sorry that I did that. It was rude of me. I shouldn't have lowered myself to your level either.

has anyone noticed that the way this thread is being written is alot like the other thread by the same type of person asking the same type of thing? The quoting is very similar.

hahaha. I barely have time to write responses to this thread, let alone log into a different account and post on another thread! I haven't even had a chance to read it since it was posted at the start of this thread.

 

[taukimada]

Thank you Kevin for actually speaking to me like an adult. If I'm really the first person to come here with these ideas, then this community needs to figure out how you're going to deal with people like me.

I like drinking single malt scotch. It's expensive (a nice bottle costs somewhere around $40-$60), so I don't do it very often. Maybe a few times a month. Maybe I'll only end up vaping with the same frequency too. I've been envisaging it as an "occasional glass of scotch" kind of thing, not an every day event like it is for most of you.



Wow, you learn something new every day! I had no idea people would spend money on oxygen. That's worse than bottled water! $1 per minute?!? Now THAT'S an expensive habit!



I'm sorry. I wasn't able to find any of that in the forum rules (which I can't link to...grrr) Could you tell me where on the site that is written? If I missed it, then I'm sorry. I broke the rules by registering, and I assume my account will be deleted shortly.


Actually, I live in metro DC. I assume the FDA is headquartered somewhere around here. Maybe I should apply for a job?



I love people who use ...... in a sentence
You're right. This isn't something that I need to do. I also don't need to drink scotch or bourbon or eat ice cream. But I like doing all those things, and I know that they aren't good for me (well, supposedly a drinks worth of ethanol a day is good for you, but still...) Maybe this is one more "vice" that I just don't need? I guess I still just don't see the harm though. It's not addicting (physically, I mean. Psychologically, well, I'm not too worried about that either). I should find out how much PG is in every dash of Angostura bitters so I'll know just how much I'm already imbibing on the weekends.

the fda will be more than happy to explain to you that there is a rather large difference between ingesting and inhaling.. i like my scotch too.. but im not gonna breathe it

 

[idontusetobacco]

Are you guy's seriously THAT paranoid?

haha. Evidently, they are. Apparently, anyone that replies to more than one person at a time when they post is the same person. They think our quoting styles are too similar. What else am I suppose to do, make five different posts in a row when replying to five different people? Most forums whack people with a ban stick for doing that.

Idontusetobacco:

Check out your medicine cabinet, your beauty products and your food pantry. You'll find PG or VG in a lot of things.

And you're right there is nothing in the forum rules that forbid you from posting here.

I wish you the best and hope that you find the answers that you seek.

With that, I am out...It's time for my nap.

Yes, I am aware that PG and VG are in everything. That's why I really don't see the harm in it. I know that it's in my Angostura bitters, my purell hand sanitizer, and my conditioner that I use every morning. I'm sure if I bothered looking, I'd find it in half the things in my kitchen too.

 

[CONCRETE RIVER]

man, this guys getting just the attention hes reaching for!

 

[teardrop88]

I say decide for yourself.

I myself was never a heavy smoker. Maybe a cigarette or two a day at most, but have my weekly cigar (or two). I never had a problem putting down nicotine myself. My vice has been and always will be caffeine. Since I do love the nicotine high, I decided to get into vaping to reduce my chances of getting cancer (have a family history of it).

The smart choice is to not get into it at all. Why spend the money unless your wallet is burning a hole in your pocket?

Since I started vaping, I haven't smoked a single analog cigerette and only have smoked one cigar. Plus, vaping has fulfilled that hand/mouth addiction. So I no longer over eat. I've lost 8 pounds in the last month alone.

 

[CrystalLakeDave]

my final post on this topic:

Idontusetobacco, you are saying that it's not addicting and that it's harmless. You seem to know all of this before you came on the forums. You seem educated about chemicals and how they affect the body. My question is why then are you asking us? That is what is throwing some of us off. By looking through the forums, you will be able to see how we all feel about e-cigs as well as how we feel about regular cigs. You are basically asking strangers to give an opinion on an action that will affect your body and or wallet. If I had a kid and they asked be if I think if I should vape, I'd say no. Do I think I should vape? NO! I should only be breathing clean air. But it's better than smoking and it's helping me by letting me keep the physical habit while I get off the other crap in regular cigs. The e-cig is saving my life each day by helping me. I have tried everything else, but I am sooo addicted to regular cigs. We look at this as a replacement for a deadly habit and it's working. We of course don't know the long term affects of vaping even w/o nicotine, just like we don't know the long term affects of driving a hybrid. We just want to be safer and healthier. Once I am off nicotine, I would not want to continue with the e-cig. If you are totally legit, I am sorry for negativity you are experiencing as well as any I have directed toward you, but this is a volatile time. The thought of people taking away what is saving my life is scary.

AT this point, you have a good amount of answers from us. If you want to vape, ask your doc about it, then make a decision and don't use nicotine.

 

[ccure]

To tell you the true idontusetobacco,

I think If you start vaping, you are opening a dangerous door. You do not know where it would take you. But again is up to you.

 

[Withnail]

haha. Evidently, they are. Apparently, anyone that replies to more than one person at a time when they post is the same person. They think our quoting styles are too similar. What else am I suppose to do, make five different posts in a row when replying to five different people? Most forums whack people with a ban stick for doing that.



Yes, I am aware that PG and VG are in everything. That's why I really don't see the harm in it. I know that it's in my Angostura bitters, my purell hand sanitizer, and my conditioner that I use every morning. I'm sure if I bothered looking, I'd find it in half the things in my kitchen too.

Why don't you just start smoking?

Cigarettes are legal and widely available, and the FDA has no plans to ban their sale. They are also far more user-friendly than e-cigs, with no troublesome atomizers or batteries to worry about.

Best of all, with the help of cigarettes, I have been able to finally kick my vaping habit! You just can't put a price tag on something like that!

 

[jennydotz]

Are you guy's seriously THAT paranoid?

Really, I am.

 

[chokmah]

Ya know I come here for advice and support and then stumble across these kinds of threads and that just makes me want a cigarette even more. Why anyone who does NOT have the awful habit would want a PV to be cool is beyond my comprehension. Non smokers already have bashed me enough personally when I did smoke and now when I am working on not smoking they follow me here and want to use this as a TOY.. Good grief please grow up and seriously think about why you really are pursuing this. As of now I am off to the store lets just hope I can cool down before I buy a pack of cigs just to settle my nerves from these two posters jonleflar and idontusetobacco...

 

[nitewriter]

I don't think it's paranoia as much as it is protecting what could possibly save our lives.

Let him do as he will. He is an adult and has the right to make the same decisions we did. ...Even if it's for different reasons.

 

[idontusetobacco]

the fda will be more than happy to explain to you that there is a rather large difference between ingesting and inhaling.. i like my scotch too.. but im not gonna breathe it

haha. True, true. Wow, I just had a brilliant idea! I'll be the first to corner the up and coming "vaporized scotch" market!

my final post on this topic:

Idontusetobacco, you are saying that it's not addicting and that it's harmless.

Yes. If there is no nicotine, how can it be physically addictive (psychologically, sure, but then, so can anything). I only kept repeating "it's not addicting" over and over again because for the first few dozen posts, people (who must lack reading comprehension skills) kept repeating "you'll get addicted to nicotine" over and over again when I clearly said, over and over again, that I am not interested in any flavors with nicotine in them.

You seem to know all of this before you came on the forums. You seem educated about chemicals and how they affect the body.

I try to be as educated as possible before I do anything

My question is why then are you asking us? That is what is throwing some of us off. By looking through the forums, you will be able to see how we all feel about e-cigs as well as how we feel about regular cigs.

In my original post, I asked four different questions. #3 has obviously been answered: I am the only person on this forum who isn't already addicted to nicotine. I suppose #1 has been answered too (albeit in the most obnoxious way possible): none of you think that the intrinsic pleasure from the flavors of the liquids, the act of blowing the vapor, and the physical appearance of the vapor, are worth taking up vaporizing as a...hobby? fad? in the same way that I like to drink scotch or bourbon or eat artisan dark chocolate, etc

You are basically asking strangers to give an opinion on an action that will affect your body and or wallet.

You're right. And so is everyone else who posts on this forum and on every other forum in the history of the internet! If it has to do with food or drink or something you inhale, and if it costs money to obtain, then you are trusting the advice of strangers to give opinoins that will affect your body and/or wallet.

The thought of people taking away what is saving my life is scary.

Rightfully so.

 

[CrystalLakeDave]

idontusetobacco, your replies to me are well said and well thought out. Touche'. Have a good evening.

 

[jonleflar]

Really, I am.

Well, I'm politically on your side. Even if I don't start vaping, I'm sticking around to keep myself informed. And if I do, I won't be a crappy poster boy. I'd be the first to say "These are believed to be a safer alternative to cigarettes and are normally used to ween people off of them."

Ya know I come here for advice and support and then stumble across these kinds of threads and that just makes me want a cigarette even more. Why anyone who does NOT have the awful habit would want a PV to be cool is beyond my comprehension. Non smokers already have bashed me enough personally when I did smoke and now when I am working on not smoking they follow me here and want to use this as a TOY.. Good grief please grow up and seriously think about why you really are pursuing this. As of now I am off to the store lets just hope I can cool down before I buy a pack of cigs just to settle my nerves from these two posters jonleflar and idontusetobacco...

I can't speak for idontusetobacco, but if you want an outside opinion, the black and metallic colored PVs with green/blue/pink lights, and fruity and sweet flavored liquids aren't helping your guys' image. As someone who doesn't smoke, and someone who hasn't bought yet, if my only option was a PV that looked like a real cigarette, I wouldn't think of buying it.

If you guys care so much, you shouldn't act like vaping is some sort of lark hobby in one thread, then try to pass it off as some insipid and dangerous life threat to a non smoker, especially one who approaches it maturely and even states he will use 0% nicotine liquid. Seeing member's avatars, people's fascination with smoke rings and tricks, and other things of that sort makes you all look a tad hypocritical.

 

[dEFinitionofEPIC]

Well, I'm politically on your side. Even if I don't start vaping, I'm sticking around to keep myself informed. And if I do, I won't be a crappy poster boy. I'd be the first to say "These are believed to be a safer alternative to cigarettes and are normally used to ween people off of them."



I can't speak for idontusetobacco, but if you want an outside opinion, the black and metallic colored PVs with green/blue/pink lights, and fruity and sweet flavored liquids aren't helping your guys' image. As someone who doesn't smoke, and someone who hasn't bought yet, if my only option was a PV that looked like a real cigarette, I wouldn't think of buying it.

If you guys care so much, you shouldn't act like vaping is some sort of lark hobby in one thread, then try to pass it off as some insipid and dangerous life threat to a non smoker, especially one who approaches it maturely and even states he will use 0% nicotine liquid. Seeing member's avatars, people's fascination with smoke rings and tricks, and other things of that sort makes you all look a tad hypocritical.

 

[lachesis]

If you guys care so much, you shouldn't act like vaping is some sort of lark hobby in one thread, then try to pass it off as some insipid and dangerous life threat to a non smoker, especially one who approaches it maturely and even states he will use 0% nicotine liquid. Seeing member's avatars, people's fascination with smoke rings and tricks, and other things of that sort makes you all look a tad hypocritical.

You know what...

Hyporcritical it might be, but I just can't "recommend" vaping, nor smoking to any non-smokers, but it's your health, your decision once you reach certain age. We all took the decision ourselves, and regreted it (most of us), then jumped to what seems to be a safer alternative compare to the analogs.

Constants attack from Anti groups and peers, family etc... who really can't understand addiction and not being able to quit => failure as a human being, as well as the guilty feeling for your family and loved ones. You know what that feels like? If "cold turkey" was really that easy for most of us, the world would be a smoke-free place by now.

We finally found some break - at least we hope we do. Give us some break and some indulgence - at least amongst ourselves.

 

[strayling]

I can't speak for idontusetobacco, but if you want an outside opinion, the black and metallic colored PVs with green/blue/pink lights, and fruity and sweet flavored liquids aren't helping your guys' image.

I'm secure in my masculinity, TYVM. Oh, and have a link.

 

[jonleflar]

I'm secure in my masculinity, TYVM. Oh, and have a link.

They've got a name for everything, I guess.

I have one for you, but I'd like to keep this account unbanned.