Not quite sure I understand as the tank cartridges are disposable so I'm not sure what effect the passage of time would have on whether they leak or not.
I'm not trying to be difficult but...
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Not quite sure I understand as the tank cartridges are disposable so I'm not sure what effect the passage of time would have on whether they leak or not.
This is a good point. I think it's being a little "politically correct" to pretend everything is a matter of subjective personal opinion. Many things are. But there are flat out bad, overpriced, ripoff pvs and accessories. To pretend otherwise is silly.
Mabye if you'd never driven a car, a Yugo would "work for you". That doesn't make it a good car. (not to pick on Yugos. It's just an easy example). There are upgrades. Some of them are undeniably and indisputably better than others. Some of them are better than others only in context of someone's preference. Point is, there are plenty of totally objective reasons that one PV is better or worse than another.
It does a no favors to a newbie who has a Blu, for example, and thinks it's great just to pat him on the head and reassure him that "if it works for you, it's the best". I, for one, would encourage him to get a "real PV". I wouldn't ridicule his choice of a Blu, but I wouldn't validate it just to save him the psychic pain of knowing he made a common newbie mistake.
OTOH, if that Blu had some exclusive feature that was absolutely necessary for him, and he was aware of the alternatives, then fine. We all have opinions. But the opinion of someone whose experience has been limited to what they could buy at 7-11 doesn't carry a whole lot of weight. Not all opinions are equally valid. Not all PV's are equally suitable. Thinking a certain PV is wonderful, while lacking any frame of reference to judge, does not make it wonderful.
When I started, I got a Joyetech 510 and thought it was great. I was pretty satisfied with it. I'm glad more experience people convinced me that it wasn't so great. I didn't feel like they were being condescending. It was information that, had I gotten it sooner, would have saved me a bunch of money and provided me a much better experience.
I guess I just don't understand the need to correct someone if they're happy with what they have. I prefer Lindt over Hershey's any day but I wouldn't dream of telling someone they need to change their chocolate eating habits because, why? If they're happy with Hershey's it's not my place to suggest or imply that they're doing it wrong. Now, if they come to me complaining about their candy bar I would suggest alternatives. Otherwise, I'm not the God of Chocolate.
Not quite sure I understand as the tank cartridges are disposable so I'm not sure what effect the passage of time would have on whether they leak or not.
Tanks and tank cartridges are two different things. She's referring to the tank systems, like the DCT, with a separate cartomizer that fits into a tank. The tank cartridges are the (usually) disposable units. Evidently, that's what you were talking about.
She(?)'s right in that even the best tank systems end up developing leaks sooner or later. You're pulling a carto through two gaskets and there's bound to be wear. Or, o-rings leak. That's why they sell replacement caps and o-rings.
Not quite sure I understand as the tank cartridges are disposable so I'm not sure what effect the passage of time would have on whether they leak or not.
Continually inserting them on the needle atomizer may stretch the hole and lead to leaking.
Suggestions on new gear has continued me on my vaping journey. Had it not been for those "eGo-T sucks, get a Volt" type posts, I may have gone back to smoking.
I love discussion on the reasons why someone loves one PV over another. Rabid fanboyism on any subject is never enjoyable.
Ah. I have the 510-T which they call a "tank system" but the only visible difference I can see between this and the regular 510 is the cartridges. This lacks the o-ring and gaskets stuff.
I've seen very little of what you're describing. I'm not sure I've ever seen anybody tell someone they "have to change their PV" or "you got the wrong PV". The only times it comes close to that is when some newbie complains that he got taken by this or that retailer and is asking for suggestions.
If someone pipes up and announces they got a 7-11 ecig and it's wonderful, you WILL see people suggest better models. That's not telling them or correcting them. That's suggesting. And those people are right. There ARE better models to be had, regardless of how happy the 7-11 vaper thinks he is.
If a man spent his whole life eating dog food, then discovered McDonald and announced to the you that he found the greatest restaurant and was happy with it, would you tell him "Yes, if it works for you, it's great"? Or would you maybe suggest that there are other better restaurants out there? If it was me, I'd hope you'd inform me of better restaurants, even though they might not fit my preferences perfectly. At least I'd take a look at them, maybe sample them, and broaden my horizons.
The difference is that I would not preface the suggestions with,"Well, if you knew better", or anything of the like. Then again, unless asked I still probably wouldn't take the liberty. I would take a Quarter Pounder w/ Cheese over any 4 Star restaurant, myself.
Yeah, I think that because of the way the eGo type PV's are designed, with the cone, everything that attaches to them is some "system" or another. But, IIRC, those tanks are like cartridges and disposable? So, you won't be wearing them out and encountering leaks unless they're defective or something.
BTW, if you're interested: Myfreedomsmokes has what they call a eGo-C trial kit. Its all the parts to convert your eGo-T to an eGo-C for like $7.95. I think it's normally $15 or so. If you want some more flexibility and don't want to buy a whole eGo C, you might want to check it out.
The difference is that I would not preface the suggestions with,"Well, if you knew better", or anything of the like. Then again, unless asked I still probably wouldn't take the liberty. I would take a Quarter Pounder w/ Cheese over any 4 Star restaurant, myself.
Again, I don't remember ever seeing a statement prefaced like that. More like "You should look at...", "I'd recommend..." or "If you want..." or "Been there, done that and...".
The reason you can say you prefer McDonalds is because you've tried both. If not, you're either blowing smoke or it's strictly an economic issue. With no frame of reference, even the worst products of any kind often seem perfect. Millions of Ginsu knives and junky home appliances were sold on TV just that way. Personally, I'd prefer that someone enlighten me about superior alternatives to my first anything. I can always figure out if their recommendation is truly superior or if it might be right for me.
I completely understand, and you're right. I was just trying to give the vets props and a big thank you!!
Wow, you prefer Lindt, even over Hershey's "Special Dark"? Hmmm. That's pretty upsetting to me... I've never tried Lindt, and it's 10:45 PM here at my cave, and I've already been to Walmart twice today & got well stocked up on Hershey's "Special Dark". Now I *know* you wouldn't dream of telling me I need to change my chocolate eating habits - at least, you wouldn't tell me that intentionally - but do you have any idea of the suggestive power your words have upon a chocolate junkie such as I?
(I am, of course, kidding you. OTOH I will have to try Lindt, but probably in a sampler pack, like maybe 5 each of 3ml. bottles or something.)
Happy Vaping!
The better question is why do you care? I am not one to put others down for what they like or dislike but we all tend to push our opinions on something we feel strongly and passionately about especially if we had a particularly good or especially bad experience with the product.
Saying i dont like your PV or your cart or your tank is not a personal attack on you or your preference, it is a mere opinion that I dont like whatever it happens to be. That being said, there is a proper way to do it and demeaning someone for owning what you consider to be a inferior product is a bit childish. We arent in high school and i would hope that people have put aside their trivial contrivances and likewise the adults have learned to grow some thicker skin and tougher cheeks.
It is difficult to be honest especially when the owner of said product may be proud of it. We all tend to show prejudice or favor toward products we own. We dont take kindly to people trashing our "superduper vapetron 2000" When we know we spent $2000 on it even if the objector is perfectly justified in pointing out the inadeqaucies of such a purchase.
You have to be objective cool calm and collect. If someone makes a sharp comment, learn to deflect it. Dont run off to cry. Even if you cant deflect the criticism then make a joke about it. If you are too mad too laugh consider what you wrote and how the person responded. Then either send a pm to the person stating so much as thank you for taking the time to kick me in my thread for my opinion that isnt what I come to expect and ask for them to be a bit more polite when they respond next time. Then Consider them an ahole and forget the comment. Respond selectively to those who cater to your line of thought.
It isnt difficult to dismiss someone on the internet.You have to, no you've got to Grow thicker skin and move on otherwise the internet as a whole will eat you alive. Not all internet users care about your feelings and yet others will intentionally try to cause you grief. Just move on to those who are respectful and polite. If your thread turns sour, dontt revisit it.
Just my 2 cents, hope it helps.
Saying i dont like your PV or your cart or your tank is not a personal attack on you or your preference, it is a mere opinion that I dont like whatever it happens to be. That being said, there is a proper way to do it and demeaning someone for owning what you consider to be a inferior product is a bit childish. We arent in high school and i would hope that people have put aside their trivial contrivances and likewise the adults have learned to grow some thicker skin and tougher cheeks.
It is difficult to be honest especially when the owner of said product may be proud of it. We all tend to show prejudice or favor toward products we own. We dont take kindly to people trashing our "superduper vapetron 2000" When we know we spent $2000 on it even if the objector is perfectly justified in pointing out the inadeqaucies of such a purchase.
You have to be objective cool calm and collect. If someone makes a sharp comment, learn to deflect it. Dont run off to cry. Even if you cant deflect the criticism then make a joke about it. If you are too mad too laugh consider what you wrote and how the person responded. Then either send a pm to the person stating so much as thank you for taking the time to kick me in my thread for my opinion that isnt what I come to expect and ask for them to be a bit more polite when they respond next time. Then Consider them an ahole and forget the comment. Respond selectively to those who cater to your line of thought.
It isnt difficult to dismiss someone on the internet.You have to, no you've got to Grow thicker skin and move on otherwise the internet as a whole will eat you alive. Not all internet users care about your feelings and yet others will intentionally try to cause you grief. Just move on to those who are respectful and polite. If your thread turns sour, dontt revisit it.
Just my 2 cents, hope it helps.
I love this thread because I'm a three striker. I use ...
Slim batts ... strike one
Auto batts ... strike two
808D ... Strike three
But then again, I'm typing with both hands while vaping away ... thanks for starting this thread... Cheers.
Slim batts ... strike one
Auto batts ... strike two
808D ... Strike three
But then again, I'm typing with both hands while vaping away ... thanks for starting this thread... Cheers.
The reason I wrote this post is that I, and others, have seen those comments. I'm not talking about "I have a ______ and I really like it" stuff. I am specifically referring to the snarky/condescending tone of some of the "advice" here.
I miss the free hands!
I just gave my kit with the auto batts to my stepsister and went with the cheaper manual to replace it.
I'm not worried about me as I've grown the thick skin some time ago. When I see the snarky stuff I automatically think of the people who are new to this and worry that they'll get discouraged. I didn't write this post to chasten those who make that type of comment so much as to let those on the receiving end of them know that they're not alone and not everyone is looking down on them.
Wow, you prefer Lindt, even over Hershey's "Special Dark"? Hmmm. That's pretty upsetting to me... I've never tried Lindt, and it's 10:45 PM here at my cave, and I've already been to Walmart twice today & got well stocked up on Hershey's "Special Dark". Now I *know* you wouldn't dream of telling me I need to change my chocolate eating habits - at least, you wouldn't tell me that intentionally - but do you have any idea of the suggestive power your words have upon a chocolate junkie such as I?
(I am, of course, kidding you. OTOH I will have to try Lindt, but probably in a sampler pack, like maybe 5 each of 3ml. bottles or something.)
Happy Vaping!
Well, obviously you're not a "real" chocolate junkie or you would have tried Lindt already.
Btw, it's really, really smooth and creamy and rich. The dark is in the blue bag.
I'm with you here, but I use a 4081 while out and about (I have what I feel is a really nice PCC for it).
Once when I posted this I was was told "you must be a newb"
Sorry, at 9 months vapeing at that point I was happy with what I was useing, 4 months later I still am.
I have seen it, too. It's not your imagination. In my experience it's not the vets who are dissing particular e-cig models; it's people who are fairly new to vaping and have found their Vaping Nirvana. They want to spread the joy but they're making the mistake of thinking that their way is necessarily the best way for their fellow vapers.
In other words, I don't think they fully realize what they're doing. Their excitement is blinding them... which is kind of cool when you think about it.
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