I'm the "Devil's Advocate" to e-Cigarettes

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BeauBeau

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Couldn't agree more about this. Sometimes I think you're better off investing in some better equipment up front because honestly it will save you money when you realize a couple weeks after a cheaper kit you're already looking to upgrade anyways.
 

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^ This! ^-^ . On a more serious note, my advice would to be have backups for your main PV, and then backups for your backups. That way if something goes wrong with your rig you will have something to fall back on while you order / fix the situation. That way you won't have to go back to smelly cigs! ie. Main PV is my Provari 2.5, backup is my Vamo v2, backup to that is my Joyetech 510-T w/ Pcc (which is also my PV at work as it's alot easier to introduce this as an e-cig compared to a hueg red vamo lol)
 

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What took me by surprise, and I quit tobacco 3 years ago and was out of control with my habit, tobacco still looks good from time to time on tv. Some people put tobacco down easily. I was a smoke-aholic. If it's not allergy season, I don't hack out a lung. My O2 sat. rate is usually 98%. I smoked 42 years. I am so thankful that there was something out there to help me. PLUS, this forum helped me greatly. Thanks to all of you!:thumbs:
 

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What I wish I knew, before I started:

1- It's really hard to find a tobacco flavor similar to what you're using; all juices will taste different to everyone, so get a sampler. You'll soon realize that your choice of flavors is now infinite. Start with a caramel/tobacco, and you might start considering a fruit flavor. Some vendor's juices need to sit, for their flavors to settle. Good vendors will let them steep as needed, before selling them to you. Steeping time can be in the order of weeks. Some e-liquid flavors are just unstable over time (rare).

2- Start out with more nicotine than you normally use now, but be ready to switch back, quickly. I used to smoke ultra lights, and I assumed that 6 mg/mL would be the same, but I soon hit nicotine withdrawal. I had to switch to 12 mg/mL, but after 3 weeks, I'm ready to take it back down to 6. It's OK to order nicotine-free flavors; they might taste a little different, but will hold you over, if you've had too much nicotine. Your heart starts to race if you get too much nicotine.

3- You must absolutely know what type of threading is on any e-cig you buy. Slim ones should be 808D-1 (not 808D-2). Larger ones should be eGo or vGo. (eGo is a 510 thread, on top of a larger thread, while vGo is 808D-1 on top of the same larger thread, but eGo and vGo are not interchangeable). eGo is far more popular, if you're looking to mix vendors in the future (most, but not all, are interchangeable). I chose vGo, because I wanted the backwards compatibility to 808D-1, without an adapter.

4- Do your research here on ECF, before buying a new e-cig. If you make a wise choice at the beginning, you won't end up purchasing a large variety of hardware, negating your savings. Ask questions; there's plenty of good, legitimate advice going around here; there's a lot of bad sponsored reviews out there on the web.

5- it's ok to start with a slim cigarette, it's even preferable. Cartomizers are a great way to start. While cartomizers can be refillable, it's a bother, and you can achieve significant savings by switching to a good tank system, especially if the atomizer (coil) is replaceable, and it's far easier to refill.

My first e-cig kit was an 808D-2, and their cartos were $3 each. I quickly found 808D-1 for $2 each, and bought adapters to use them, but I quickly moved on to a tank, where the juice is less than $1 per mL.

I like to know just how much nicotine I'm going through, something you can't do with cartomizers, unless you refill them yourself.

6- The ultimate system will have a battery with replaceable cells. It will have a VV and/or VW circuit (Variable Voltage and/or Variable Wattage), so you can set the voltage or even better the wattage (power) to vaporize your e-liquid. They might be more expensive to start with, but if you're going to be a vaper for a while (as most of us will), it'll pay off quickly. Variable voltage is fine by itself; variable wattage is fancier, and works independently of the resistance of your coil. Batteries don't last forever (1'000 recharges?), and it's a lot cheaper to replace a cell, than the whole battery unit. No you can't use a multimeter to measure the Ohm (electrical resistance) of a coil; the Ohm rating is different under load.

I'm using an unregulated Halo Triton batt and tank right now. While I do notice the drop in power as the battery discharges, it doesn't bother me, yet. Fancier systems are for fancier tastes.
 

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I will also warn you that all the people that told you all these years to quit smoking will in fact not throw a parade in your honour once you have quit analogues.

And even if you try to explain it to them they will look at you as if you are making fun of them. "A cigarette is a cigarette" is what is being tried to be taught to me by those same people :laugh: I am beginning to wonder if the e-cigarettes should have been called something else altogether from the start.
 

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If you're having problems, tell us about it. Someone here is bound to be able to help.

If you're one of those people that it just doesn't work for, I'm sorry to hear that. I'm one of those people that had no intention of quitting so I can't relate.

If you're pulling everybodys collective leg, congrats, ya got me.
 

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Sometimes I think that when somone starts an argumentitive thread, They may have not known what they were getting in to and then feel the need to defend themselves. On the other hand some people just love to debate. I have read many good posts here and a few sassy ones. There were some good points brought out. TY members. I have my opinion to, but I am going to keep my 2 cents for my next order. :)
 

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Sometimes I think that when somone starts an argumentitive thread, They may have not known what they were getting in to and then feel the need to defend themselves. On the other hand some people just love to debate. I have read many good posts here and a few sassy ones. There were some good points brought out. TY members. I have my opinion to, but I am going to keep my 2 cents for my next order. :)

There is no fun in that... Let fly!
 

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Whatever i experienced as to what i thought might be a con turned out to have a solution...
Yes, this.

Probably about 90% of issues do have solutions.
That's why it is so important to have a knowledgeable guide to help you in your vaping journey.

ECF is that guide for those who find it.
For those that don't I can only hope they have a solid resource to turn to.
 
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