I'm the "Devil's Advocate" to e-Cigarettes

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tearose50

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Greetings,

Thanks people... for all your HONESTY..... I really appreciate it IMMENSELY !
By the way .... here is MY warning :

If you're looking to find a "real" cigarette experience in e-Cigarettes .... you WON"T find it. Turn back NOW !!... and maybe wait a couple more years for the so-called "impossible" to become a possibility. Your money WILL be wasted if that's what you're expecting ! ! Wait a couple of years (hopefully LESS) and save up some money for sample packs.


I can easily agree that the first sentence is good advice, but that is where it ends. The rest I find bitter and not helpful at all. Bummer, this could have been good thread.

Greetings billbeckusa,
You've obviously detected some non-benificial vibes from me. I don't know whether to say I'm sorry or to say that I feel like I was lied to.
Although I'm only 26 days into vaping.... not much has changed. My cravings for a real cigarette have NOT subsided. I'm also NOT happy with the so-called Tobacco extract flavors I've invested in. This thread is simply to INFORM.... that's all. I feel that it is only right to let POTENTIAL vapers know what's in store. Information is empowering. Deception is never a good path. You are quite observant bilbeckusa, and because of that, I think you know this thread will be most helpful (amongst other threads)....

I found bilbeckusa's responses quite wise and much like the advice I got when I arrived here at ECF.

And just to go over a few points --- an "e-cig" won't taste like a cigarette. In fact, you won't taste much of anything until your tastebuds start working again. Before that vape was either tolerable or not tolerable. My body accepted tobacco blends the best. IMO it's not the "taste" of a cig we are craving when we switch, it's more likely withdrawal symptoms kicking in.

I do believe most have to work at it to switch. I started vaping mostly just to cut down my habit -- and when I did that so easily, I decided to completely switch.

What's are the downsides --

It can be "futzy" from time to time, or a lot, depending on several factors.
There are factions that do equate it to smoking ......when it is not.
It's fun to have and try new gear, and it sure isn't necessary.
Battery Fatique---That for the most part only occured with cig-alikes (always charging batteries and running out or breaking at the most inopportune times).
Necessity to carry back ups. Murphy's law may occasionally apply when you don't.

A few plus sides to balance things out:

No dirty ashtrays or smell in my environment. A smell I didn't notice until after I had switched for a few weeks.
I switched 100% and that made friends and family happy.
I do not have the "nagging" cravings at all. What little I have is not nearly as harsh or biting. (Hmm, time to lower the nic again?)
Obvious health benefits almost right away, quite similar to quiting.



There is no way that you should assume they are safe it's never been proven. If you are not using them to stop smoking then don't start vaping.

I simply disagree. Heck, it isn't even "safe" to breath the air in cities, eat bacon, or have salt available on the tables (in New York City). There may be some long term effects, but even life itself does have long term effects.

Also, I know several people that are part time vapors. Why should they quit vaping?? Plus vaping is a smoking alternative, not marketable in the USA as an aid to quitting.


To answer the OP while being somewhat influenced by the roller coaster of subsequent posts...

<An ecig is not a cigaratte. If you go in thinking its going to be the real thing you are clearly mistaken. The oral fixation and nicotine dose are there but the whole nostalgia surrounding smoking a real cigarette will never be replaced. So no, ecigs themselves will never make anyone quit smoking, but they may help.>

Cessation is the job of the smoker, not the tools you use to get there.

Note: Even if you talk in a stricly "smoker" point of view... ive seen smokers that only smoke 1 brand and one brand only, meaning not even another cigarette will replace their personal preference of choice. we all know them and some of are or have been that person.

Well said. I remember changing brands being almost as tough as switching to vaping.
 
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My warning would be a cautionary but supportive, "It may take time."
When I started I read so many "started vaping and never looked at another cigarette again" tales that when that wasn't my experience it was extremely frustrating.
When vaping didn't get me through an extremely traumatic experience I thought maybe this just wasn't going to do it for me.
I was told, "Chuck your pack of cigarettes and don't buy anymore. If you have them you'll smoke them." All good, except that when I didn't have them the cigs were all I thought about.

So I took a step back. I bought a pack of cigarettes. When I stepped outside I smoked one but instead of smoking another I pulled out my twist instead. I allowed myself to use it in the house (something I NEVER did with cigarettes) and when the thought of stepping outside came up I vaped some to take the edge off and found myself stepping out less often. I gave myself permission to spend a little money on different juices from different companies in different nic levels. I also gave myself permission to chuck or give away the ones I didn't like. In other words, I gave myself a break. It wasn't the instant solution I thought it was going to be. But I'm now 4 weeks smoke free. I still have a pack of smokes with 4 cigarettes left in it. I'm not throwing it away because it gives me some sort of emotional comfort to have it there. It also reminds me how far I've come. I also know now that if I decided right at this moment to have one it doesn't mean the end of my vaping journey.

For most of us quitting is hard, no matter what you do to accomplish it.
 

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My warning to anyone thinking of becoming a vaper is don't start unless you're committed to ending your analog habit...The day my ego kit came in the mail was the last day i smoked a analog. I was a 2 pack a day red smoker and this has been the easiest transition from smoking i have found hands down.
 

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Lots of advice...

The people that say don't expect it to be a miraculous transition didn't experience a miraculous transition.
Many others have though.

The people that say you have to be committed, apparently felt they had to be committed.
They don't seem to take into account the many that weren't committed at all and quit accidentally without even trying.

The people that say it is easy and they quit overnight and never looked back, didn't have any trouble.
Many people have trouble.

The bottom line is that a lot of people can't see beyond their own experiences.
Ignore them and just figure it out as you go, and you have a really, really good chance of getting there in your own time.
 

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The bottom line is that a lot of people can't see beyond their own experiences.

The OP was asking for people to state their own personal experiences about the negative aspects of vaping.

That's usually what people do - state their point of view from personal experience.

Isn't that the whole point of this forum?
 

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The OP was asking for people to state their own personal experiences about the negative aspects of vaping.

That's usually what people do - state their point of view from personal experience.

Isn't that the whole point of this forum?
It's great to lend your experiences to any discussion.
It's wrong to state things as if your experiences are the truth of the matter for all people.

The longer people hang around here, the more they open their minds.
There are many ways to skin a cat.
 

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The only con I can think of is those cigalike gas station varieties that claim to contain "two packs worth" in one cartridge.

Don't fall for that.

Do homework, buy good equipment first, and you will save yourself in the long run. Two eGo Twists, a few Evods, and a few bottles of juice will cost you what you paid for a weeks worth of cigarettes (well, depends on how much you smoked and what you paid for them, but you get the idea)

You CAN vape affordably, however you'll find yourself researching things and wanting them. If a new toy will keep you happy vaping and not smoking, go for it. A Vamo will curb your mod appetite for less than a weeks worth of cigarettes (can you tell I use that analogy a lot?)

As far a health cons, it's up to you what to believe. I feel better, I don't cough, I'm really excited to see how I feel in the winter since that seemed to be when it really got me. You can find studies that claim they're worse than cigarettes. I cannot see how that's possible, and I'm sure big tobacco had a lot to do with that.
 
Watch your wallet.

I bought a Blu starter kit first. I didn't like it, so then I bought an ego clearomizer system and it works fine, but, I already have my next purchase lined out. (iTaste VV 3.0, Kanger Protank, extra heads) Price goes up every purchase. I don't mind it, because not only have I quit smoking AND dipping, but I've picked up a fun hobby. Not to mention I have replaced most of my gaming time with posting on these forums. Put one toe in the water and be prepared to drown in vaping awesomeness.

EDIT: Should probably mention that I've only been vaping for around 2 weeks.
 

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I would warn against exhaling through your nose constantly, you will find it embarrassing explaining to people that your nose is in fact not runny, rather it is condensation forming in your nose from vapour and dripping out uncontrollably. I would also warn you in advance to clear a drawer in your credenza or night-stand or go out and buy a tackle box whilst amassing a barrage of vaping goods. I will also warn you that all the people that told you all these years to quit smoking will in fact not throw a parade in your honour once you have quit analogues.
RTYPE11, you absolutely nailed it about clearing space or buying a tackle box for all the stuff! One large craft drawer dedicated to ecigs here.
 

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I understand your training behind wanting to call the flavor inhalers instead of e cigarette because the flavor isn't really the same. I think like all the different flavors out there it takes a lot of experimenting to get the flavor you had with your brand of cigarettes. I did Bugler rollies and camel non filter. I guess I never did come into this looking to replicates those flavors. I came into it looking for and equal satisfactory experience. The problem for me in trying to replicate my favorite cigarettes was that the others were really gross to me so I didn't want to put my money into them in that quest. So I just started vaping the different flavors like coffee and fruit. What I was looking for was the throat hit and vapor. If I could have that and find a different flavor I could give up cigarettes. The money element is important to me. I could never afford to be addicted to cigarettes. So while it can be expensive to vape I doubt I'm spending what I did on cigarettes. Amy warning I would give to new comemers is that you will need some time to find what will satisfy you and it might not happen over night. Plus if you live in any area where there are no local vendors waiting for your new stuff in the mail just sucks.
 

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Ok warning! Before investing in ecigs, do a lot of research. It takes times and effort to get your needs meet. There is no chemical inherently added to ejuice to hook you on them the way there is in cigarette tobacco to get you hooked on ecigs so you will have to hook yourself. If you liked chewing tobacco, you're out of luck. The ecigs worth a damn are heavier than a cigarette. Pipe smokers are best off because they are used to a device.
 

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But I'm now 4 weeks smoke free. I still have a pack of smokes with 4 cigarettes left in it. I'm not throwing it away because it gives me some sort of emotional comfort to have it there. It also reminds me how far I've come. I also know now that if I decided right at this moment to have one it doesn't mean the end of my vaping journey.

Sounds like you are doing great on this journey. I kept packs in a few "just in case I run out" places, like the glove compartment of my car. It was important for me to have that "back up"/security blanket. I knew if I dumped them, I'd be buying more. So, I kept them and one day just refused to open another pack.

Several months later I saw the pack in the car and just burst out laughing as I hadn't thought about it or needed that security blanket in months. Soon after I gave it away.
 
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