In Parade magazine

[seminolewind]

I am sooo tired of this garbage. People making statements and writing articles about something they haven't investigated thoroughly. And you can always see THEIR opinion shine thru.

The only complaints about cigarettes that should be universally considered is Toxic cancer causing carcinogens are inhaled by the smoker and the people around them.

PV's eliminate inhaling toxic cancer causing tobacco smoke by smokers and the people around them.

The rest is trivial. The rest should fall to "freedom of choice"

 

[Skeezix]

This is getting old. The "children card" again. The media, the government, anybody against e-cics will play the "child card." That's as exploitive as playing the "race card."

And where is the scientific proof that this is true?

Perhaps they should remove the Lemon from Lemon Pledge furniture polish and replace it with boiling cabbage scent.
How about "New Glade air freshener with cat urine scent! That'll keep junior from snacking on one.

It's absurd

 

[seminolewind]

How bout the attractiveness of alcohol? Kids can't wait to get out there and have a drink when they turn legal age (or before). Everyone is always having fun drinking, etc. Oh yea, and the flavors.

 

[Tom09]

Dr. Henningfield notes that some manufacturers "blatantly go after young people," advertising e-cigarettes with flavors "like chocolate and candy."

A cursory Google search confirms that Jack E Henningfield is not just another ‘small town family doctor’. He’s a highly published, very influential, high-profile expert. It strikes me as odd that he could get away with stating a blatant lie as a fact (if cited correctly).

 

[davidb]

I just read it and came to post about it, a little late. Why not have a smoker who has tried the product write about it. Its so easy to say, "stick to an approved method". They didnt work for me and others I know of. Same old crap

 

[tikva]

That POS article is anything BUT "balanced". It's disgusting and makes me sick to read it.

A 'balanced' article would have included a little more research on the part of the 'M.D.' (Me Doctor!) Also, along with all the 'anti' bias, it could have included some 'pro' info---which IS available---if that dumb-a*** doctor bothered to check.

I tried to leave a comment, but it wouldn't let me register and 'log in'. How convenient----keeps all the pro-PV users from having a voice. So far I only see 8 comments, and one of those is a repeat.

 

[TheIllustratedMan]

Here's an article that I wrote that I hope to submit for publication to a widely circulated newspaper or magazine.

My fiance has long been a vegetarian. It started out as a dislike for meat, and came to be a dislike for the meat industry and the entire concept of eating animals. Within the last two years, she made the switch to veganism. She now eats only food derived from non-animal sources. I am at the opposite end of the spectrum, where I mainly eat meat and animal derived food. Naturally, when she brought home a plant called "broccoli" and told me that it was delicious and healthy, I was intrigued.
As we all know, meat can inspire cholesterol build-up in the arteries, fatty tissue around the heart, and possibly even instances of pancreatic cancer, among other negative health effects. I decided to look into this broccoli and decide if it was right for me.
Searching the internet, I found a lot of references to broccoli. Some sites claimed that it was high in vitamins. Others said that there may be a reduced risk of cancer in broccoli eaters. Unfortunately, I could find no actual studies which proved any of these claims. It's one thing for a broccoli vendor to tell me that there are a myriad of health benefits, it's something else for an official scientific study to confirm it.
Since I could not verify any of the claims made by my fiance or by these sites, I'm not going to try broccoli. I would suggest to anyone reading this article who wants to eat less meat and try something healthier should avoid broccoli and eat recognized alternatives such as Gardenburgers and Tofurkey.

What do you guys think?

 

[Bunni]

*applauds*

 

[OutWest]

@tikva - their site is buggy, but if you persist you can get your comment submitted. One tip, open wordpad and write your comment ahead of time, otherwise your session could time out while you're writing and you get dumped back to the login screen when you click submit (happened to me). Also worth noting, there's a 3,000 character limit.

 

[JohnR]

Nice piece there! Illustrated!

Buggy indeed - I ended up with two entries, duplicated (I guess). User error, I guess.

I like to respond clearly that altho I didn't get the e-cig as a Method to Quit Smoking (rather as a possibly healthier alternative) I have, in fact, Quit Smoking tobacco Cigarettes, and may ulitmately roll of e-cig's entirely down the line.

I have been so surprised by the results and changes of this, that I've found myself mentally pinching myself and wondering "who am I?" now...I smoked tobacco for over 40 years. Now - after about 3 weeks of this - I don't, at all and not just for an hour, for over 2 weeks now. And I'm not scratching at the trash trying to find an old bag o' burned out butts. I'm fairly happy with the way I "feel", and in fact "feel better" than I did a year ago.

It would be good too if stronger and heavier users of e-cig's balanced the feedback. I know I'm a fairly "light user", and the range of use would be good for readers to see and indeed might open others up to the idea of trying it.

 

[tikva]

@tikva - their site is buggy, but if you persist you can get your comment submitted. One tip, open wordpad and write your comment ahead of time, otherwise your session could time out while you're writing and you get dumped back to the login screen when you click submit (happened to me). Also worth noting, there's a 3,000 character limit.

Thanks for the info! I'll try again......

 

[Zestok90]

I really don't get how smoking something that tastes like chocolate or candy is targetting young people. So... older people can't smoke something that tastes good. Camel used to have holida flavors at a time, but they got banned for "tagetting young people" because of flavors like holiday spice and stuff and the pretty packaging. I guess cigarettes are supposed to taste liek **** and the packaging is supposed to look like ****, otherwise little kids will smoke. Imbeciles, this irks me the wrong way. I don't think vaping could be bad at all, almost everything excluding nicotine can be digested into the body that is in eliquid anyways, why would it be anyworse to vaporize it?
Sorry for the rant, some things just set me off.

 

[OutWest]

^ I agree with ya. This whole "flavors are for kids" thing is such a load of nonsense. Regarding vaping and whether it's bad or not - It's possible that it may even help to protect against and fight H1N1, though we'd need clinical trials to know for sure (laf). They just said on the news that H1N1 likes to replicate in the lungs.

 

[TheIllustratedMan]

^ I agree with ya. This whole "flavors are for kids" thing is such a load of nonsense. Regarding vaping and whether it's bad or not - It's possible that it may even help to protect against and fight H1N1, though we'd need clinical trials to know for sure (laf). They just said on the news that H1N1 likes to replicate in the lungs.

OK, but that's exploitive. Can't we argue on the inherent benefits, not the flavor of the day ones?


...that's why I'm not a salesman. Carry on.

 

[Vapinginmyboots]

My 2 cents: I got into vaping after reading about chinese e-cigs and how they are spreading. This article had "these are not proven" and such in it, but the idea was enough to make me do a bit of research and the next day I was ordering an Njoy Pro. Any smoker that has concerns about his or her habit (especially those desperate to stop) will read even slanted articles and unless they say "side effects may include imminent death" or such, they will have a good chance of at least giving it a good bit of thought, and a small to medium percentage of them may even try it. E-cigs arent a proven thing at all, but just the "idea" was an enticing thing to me personally. And I hope it is also to many others out there.

 

[SSRob]

You can contact Dr. Mishori via this link:

Georgetown University

OR POSSIBLY at mishorir@georgetown.edu (not confirmed but basing off standard address scheme)

 

[Kate51]

The good Doctor was looking to see if this was something he could recommend to his patients. He stopped looking after finding another like-mind that thought they were "renegade" devices with fancy boxes and fruit-flavored juice. They didn't look very hard. I found ECF right away, you can't help but trip over it at every turn of the mouse. Instead of his bit of no-knowledge rhetoric he would have still been reading some of the renegade results that we renegades could have shown him. Sorta beats the 95% failure rate the medical profession and all of it's BIG-MONEY WHO and the FDA has at it's disposal so far. Really how far we have come since those old days of snake oil pharm. Just reading the banners would keep a good doctor busy enough for quite some time. Technology has once again beat them at their own game, and they missed the boat.8-oIt must be very frustrating to know they are about 10 years behind the times. Sometimes I feel sorry for people with too much Health Care Insurance at their disposal. It makes them into sheep and they think they are getting the best care money can buy. Sort of like starving to death because they don't know where vegetables come from. I'll just here and vape till they come to find me!
P.S. I tried to log in and not able to, three very VERY good comments though! Apparently they were not prepared for more responses.

 

[Princessdee]

My 2 cents: I got into vaping after reading about chinese e-cigs and how they are spreading. This article had "these are not proven" and such in it, but the idea was enough to make me do a bit of research and the next day I was ordering an Njoy Pro. Any smoker that has concerns about his or her habit (especially those desperate to stop) will read even slanted articles and unless they say "side effects may include imminent death" or such, they will have a good chance of at least giving it a good bit of thought, and a small to medium percentage of them may even try it. E-cigs arent a proven thing at all, but just the "idea" was an enticing thing to me personally. And I hope it is also to many others out there.

Agreed. I was watching the news and saw roll by on the ticker "WHO unsure of safety of e-cigarettes"
Thought WTF is an e-cigarette? I did a few days research, and ordered mine. I've been very happily analog free since April 3.

Any exposure will start a few questioning. ~ P

 

[Flitzanu]

"The look-alikes, which are less expensive than cigarettes..."

um...really?

ecigs are OUTRIGHT cheaper than cigarettes?

last i checked, a pack is about $5+ and an ecig is ~$50.

especially the mall kiosks being discussed, those things are very high priced. sigh. too bad none of us work at major mags or papers.

 

[DIRTY 30]

is anyone else saddened by the fact that most people are first exposed to the electronic cigarette by the poor products and salesmen at MALL KIOSKS?

we are all being stereotyped by the smoking everywhere models.