In three to six months battery goes dead?

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nerak

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I was stressing:facepalm: over my purchased kit, trying to decide what I will need to pick up to feel I could vape as much as wanted :vapor: without any analogs. I got an extra battery, bottles of juice, extra carts.
Then I read that the batteries themselves will only last 3-6 months.:(
So, when they die any carts, chargers, anything model specific will be useless without getting more of the same model battery.:confused:
I guess if I decide to change to a different brand (model) I should just wait till these batteries die.

Anyone have any thoughts?
 

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1. Don't buy ripoff stuff. Stay away from mall kiosks, any glitzy site that doesn't sell blank cartos or cartos and juice, any site that charges more than $20 for a battery

2. Other stuff will likely die before you need a new battery. If it's a 2-piece, you will need cartomizers - you may get a week out of each by refilling before performance goes down. If it is a 3-piece, the atomizer is likely to need replacing before the battery does. Not a big deal. An atomizer costs about the same as buying a pack of cigs at a convenience store. A battery should only cost $12-18 unless you bought a rip-off rebrander model

3. Ecig batteries are claimed by the Chinese to last through 300 or so recharges before dropping off in performance. one US vendor says the batteries typically last for 1/2 that or about 150 recharges.


other things that may affect longevity

- Buying quality kits parts, not the cheapest clone still you can find
- Using manual batteries which are sealed on the threaded end
- Having equipment appropriate for your needs and not overworking something weaker
- Taking care of your equipment

Suggestion - if you want to vape a lot, get a passthrough and a 2amp AC-to-USB adapter to run it off. Vape on that at home and that should help your batteries last longer (less use = fewer recharges)
 
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Yes, consumables (batteries, atomizers) are model specific. Atomizers tend to last anywhere from a week to a month or more (I've had Joye 510 atomizers last 3 months before giving out). Batteries tend to lose effectiveness after about 6 months. Of course when you compare the costs to $5 - $10 a day for analogs, you'll still end up ahead. :)

You didn't mention what brand/model e-cig you purchased in your original post, but keep in mind that all e-cigs regardless of branding are generally based off generic models from China. Once you know what model your e-cig is, you'll be able to find replacement parts from dozens of online retailers.
 

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The small tube shaped 3.7 volt batteries (M401, kr808, 510, etc) that come with the analog shaped PV's typically only have a 200 recharge life span at best. And they cost between $10 - $20 to replace.

One of the many advantages to 5 volt and variable volt PV's, such as the GLV2 or a box mod is that the batteries have a 2000 recharge life span and generally cost about $3.50. And they are not proprietary like the small tube shaped batteries and can be purchased at battery stores.
 

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Yeah, they're just batteries, just like the ones in your flashlights, phones, and smoke detectors... just shaped differently for this purpose. There are a couple of things you can do though:

• Don't buy the horrid rip-off kits with expensive batteries, they shouldn't cost that much to replace (and mine lasted 10 months)

• you can get an adapter that makes it so that you can use any atomizer or cartomizer on any battery, so if you want to change brand then buy an adapter and you can still use all your old brands stuff (they're cheap)

• you can choose to buy a mod instead, then you will be able to buy $8 replacement batteries at radio shack and keep using the same e-cig. fwiw: you can buy a 510 battery for about $12.

Good luck!

ps: all the parts of e-cigs will need to be replaced eventually, fortunately if you get a good kit the parts are relatively inexpensive.

Good Luck! :)
 

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There are battery -> atomizer adapters for most of the common batteries out there so you'd be able to still use your accessories wirh a new battery if you decide to go that route.

I believe most of the battery life issues are related to how many times you charge them. Most claim aound 300 charges, so a small (180mAh) battery that you charge 3 times a day is not going to last as long as a larger battery that you may only charge once a day. LR attys and cartos may also reduce your battery life. But the truth is, batteries will wear out, they do go bad, and they can be damaged by dropping them.

Having said that, it's a good idea to have some spare batteries BEFORE you need them so your vaping doesn't get interrupted (unless you can pick them up locally.) On a related note, it's also a good idea to have a spare charger in case the one you have goes bad. The best batteries in the world are of no help to you if you can't charge them.
 

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Welcome to ECF NeraK!

Don't stress about your batteries. Consider this your "starter" kit. Some folks progress to other Ecigs over time but each step is well worth the money.

The savings are astronomical compared to smoking. How's Ohio's cig prices? I'm next to you in NY and our cigs are $9 or $10 a pack now. Pre-made Nic juice costs me $1 a day to vape or 25 cents a day if I make my own DIY nic juice.

So at $1 a day in juice, plan on spending 50 cents- $1.00 a day OVER TIME in Ecig supplies- like atomizers and batteries. This vaping habit will cost you $1.50-$2.00 a day and that includes machinery and juice. Don't worry about buying the wrong thing because they are all disposables and not meant to last forever.


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You didn't mention what brand/model e-cig you purchased in your original post, but keep in mind that all e-cigs regardless of branding are generally based off generic models from China. Once you know what model your e-cig is, you'll be able to find replacement parts from dozens of online retailers.[/QUOTE]

I have a KR808 from Prime Vapor. I see replacement batteries at other sites that should work on my carts. But not sure about the chargers if I stray from the Prime Vapor store.
 

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When I bought my first eGo kit, it was black, so I ordered an extra battery and cone in purple. But then I realized that when eGo kits are on sale for $40, I'm better off just getting a new kit. If you price out all of the components, getting the kit is cheaper, and having the extra charger is convenient too!

(Love your screen name!! LOL you brought me back to high school, I was a Nerak too!!)
 

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nerak -

a cart (i.e. cartridge, the push-on plastic and juice part of a 3-piece) does not last long at all. You need to top it off frequently with juice. May last for 10 drags to 3 cigs worth before you have to mess with it


a carto (i.e. cartomizer, the screw-on combined atomizer and juice cart of a 2-piece) - depends on how well filled it was but it will be vapable longer than a cart before you need to add juice. Don't run them totally dry or you could singe the stuffing and ruin it. Add juice while it is still working. When the vapor seems harder to get, I add some juice.
 
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I have a KR808 from Prime Vapor. I see replacement batteries at other sites that should work on my carts. But not sure about the chargers if I stray from the Prime Vapor store.

If it's a kr8-yes, chargers are compatible with all kr8 stuff with the exception of the "big battery" models-i.e. pigcig/elegant and I think black cherry has one now. So you're good:)
 

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Welcome to ECF NeraK!

Don't stress about your batteries. Consider this your "starter" kit. Some folks progress to other Ecigs over time but each step is well worth the money.

The savings are astronomical compared to smoking. How's Ohio's cig prices? I'm next to you in NY and our cigs are $9 or $10 a pack now. Pre-made Nic juice costs me $1 a day to vape or 25 cents a day if I make my own DIY nic juice.

So at $1 a day in juice, plan on spending 50 cents- $1.00 a day OVER TIME in Ecig supplies- like atomizers and batteries. This vaping habit will cost you $1.50-$2.00 a day and that includes machinery and juice. Don't worry about buying the wrong thing because they are all disposables and not meant to last forever.


Lori


Hi Nerak -
Ditto on what Lori said. I started with 2 DSE901 kits, spare atties, juice and 2 passthroughs for around $115. Figured if I didn't like vaping, I wasn't out too much $$$.

After vaping a while, you'll realize what your vaping habits are like as well as what you desire from vaping.

Right now, I'm satisfied with my 5v Saber 510 connection and 5v Glv 901 connection and a 510 passthrough. My purchases are aimed at keeping me stocked and I buy either at discounted prices or throught co-ops.
 

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I am recovering from shoulder surgery and this whole quitting smoking and learning to vape is a good distraction from the pain and inability to function as normal.
However my normal veers slightly from the norm (?):?: I am on pain meds so forgive me if I wander....
I am so happy with my current set-up. I now feel, after several orders, I have completed my shopping for a few days :p
I appreciate the time and effort you all have taken to reply to this thread. I really feel that this board is full of caring souls that will keep me heading down the vapor pathway.
Just fyi, my grown daughter and I talked about the e-cigs and found out each had looked into them on our own.
She purchased a NPRO from a local store and we both tried it. She has only smoked 3 partial analogs in a week. This is a lady that has smoked for close to 20 years and did not really mean to quit cigs. She just wanted something to smoke while working and driving around with her kids.
We are both learning together, and amazed at our new found vapor trail.
 

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Sorry about your shoulder! I hope it heals soon. And it's great you are learning vaping with a friend.

Your friend can join the other accidental quitters on this board. There have been a number of people to just bought an ecig out of curiosity and then realized they no longer needed cigarettes

BTW Npro is RN4081 and some cheaper supplies like batteries (possibly a manual battery too), chargers, etc for her are available at AZSmokeFree.com (search there for RN4081)

And this place has empty cartomizers for RN4081
All in one cartomizer for RN4081 (Njoy NPRO or SmokingEverywhere Gold) electronic cigarette

They also sell atomizers and cartridges if she has any desire to try the Npro as a 3-piece
This link is a search there for RN4081
Joye eGo | Joye 510 | Electronic Cigarette batteries, atomizers, cartomizers, e-Liquid, accessories and more!
 
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