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I'm enjoying my Burley tobacco with menthol enough that I still haven't gotten ahead on the steeping. So far the best I've done is a hot rice steep plus a week, but I just made up 120 ml, so some of that should make it longer.
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Can you guys give me any recommendations from inawera for mild tobacco flavours?
I've seen the one called m.i.l.d. obviously, that's a possibility.
The tino ry4 I made up has finally steeped enough and is really nice. I'm looking for others similarly mild but possibly more complex. I just want to avoid the strong ashy tasting tobaccos. Thanks in advance.
I've seen the one called m.i.l.d. obviously, that's a possibility.
The tino ry4 I made up has finally steeped enough and is really nice. I'm looking for others similarly mild but possibly more complex. I just want to avoid the strong ashy tasting tobaccos. Thanks in advance.
Inw Desert Ship may work for you, Turkish with a slight nut note on exhale, you can always mix a smaller % if you find any tobacco flavors too strong.
Kurt
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I just read this:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/277267-purity-pg-vg-peg-short-version.html
I wasn't aware of the potential contaminants in the USP and/or Food Grade PG and VG.
I there a good source of Pharmaceutical Grade PG/VG out there?
Edit: I looked at the PG/VG I got from ECX
http://www.ecigexpress.com/propylene-glycol-usp.html
Physical Properties*
Physical Properties Units Propylene Glycol USP/EP (PG USP/EP)
Chemical Name 1,2-propanediol
Formula C3H8O2
CAS Number1 57-55-6
EINECS Number 200-338-0
Molecular Weight 76.1
Boiling Point 760 mm Hg, °F 369.3
760 mm Hg, °C 187.4
Vapor Pressure mm Hg, 77°F (25°C) 0.13
Evaporation Rate (n-Butyl Acetate = 1) 1.57E-02
1 Chemical Abstract Service Number
*Note: These properties are laboratory results on pure compounds or are typical of the product. Typical properties should not be confused with, or regarded as, specifications.
It's kind of confusing in the footnote if this specific product is indeed USP/EP grade...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/277267-purity-pg-vg-peg-short-version.html
I wasn't aware of the potential contaminants in the USP and/or Food Grade PG and VG.
I there a good source of Pharmaceutical Grade PG/VG out there?
Edit: I looked at the PG/VG I got from ECX
http://www.ecigexpress.com/propylene-glycol-usp.html
Physical Properties*
Physical Properties Units Propylene Glycol USP/EP (PG USP/EP)
Chemical Name 1,2-propanediol
Formula C3H8O2
CAS Number1 57-55-6
EINECS Number 200-338-0
Molecular Weight 76.1
Boiling Point 760 mm Hg, °F 369.3
760 mm Hg, °C 187.4
Vapor Pressure mm Hg, 77°F (25°C) 0.13
Evaporation Rate (n-Butyl Acetate = 1) 1.57E-02
1 Chemical Abstract Service Number
*Note: These properties are laboratory results on pure compounds or are typical of the product. Typical properties should not be confused with, or regarded as, specifications.
It's kind of confusing in the footnote if this specific product is indeed USP/EP grade...
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I think this requires further investigation as the thread states that only Dow is producing the pharma grade at this time.
Kurt
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We may have to consider a group buy as the minimum qty is substantial.
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I just sent an e-mail to Drew at Bull City Vapor. It'll be great if he or another vendor carries these. All of the PG/VG I've seen so far is advertised as food grade.
A Forum search should provide the info that Dow will not sell for the purpose of e-cig use.
Ron
99.8% pure pffft. Froggy's Fog PG is 99.9% pure 
http://www.amazon.com/Propylene-Gly...d=1413499172&sr=8-2&keywords=propylene+glycol
Dow can kiss my keister !
http://www.amazon.com/Propylene-Gly...d=1413499172&sr=8-2&keywords=propylene+glycol
Dow can kiss my keister !
I think this is supposed to be from Dow. Looks like decent prices on the smaller bottles when compared to other places. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/614149-much-cheaper-pg-vg-than-essdepot.html
99.8% pure pffft. Froggy's Fog PG is 99.9% pure
Amazon.com: Propylene Glycol - Food Grade USP - 1 Quart (32 Oz.): Health & Personal Care
Dow can kiss my keister !
Lol. Nobody can even see your keister though the Froggys Fog fog.
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I looked over that site and while they do talk extensively about Dow, I could not find anything where they stated Dow was their actual source.
Considering the large amount of information provided on that site, I am suspect why they did not do so.
Ron
So, USP can be either food or pharmaceutical? Man, talk about having to read the fine print and my glasses need updating...... dang.
My understanding (possibly wrong) is that USP is a very high standard. For my self, if it's marked USP then I don't worry about it.
That's how I've approached purchasing PG and VG. If it is labeled "USP", I'm good with it. I understand I am trusting a "label", but it's all I've got and so far I am not aware of any negative consequences. Considering all the toxins I jettisoned by quitting cigarettes, if there is a itsy bitsy (like that scientific jargon??) amount of something jive (another scientific term) in the PG or VG, it pales in comparison to the 3000+ toxins I used to inhale. Hope this line of thinking makes sense......
That was my understanding too. I wasn't aware of the fact that USP "pharmaceutical" is a purer grade than USP food grade. I'm willing to pay extra for purer PG/VG since they make up 90-95% of what we vape.
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