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Curious: Does your cardiologist know, and what are his/her thoughts if so?
FOAF stories do not constitute hard, medical evidence. Generally when I'm met with resistance (and in the last two weeks, it's really only been curious, concerned resistance), I ask for the source.
I'm also a writer and fairly trained in that dogmatic. Source me, or it didn't happen.
I'm also a writer and fairly trained in that dogmatic. Source me, or it didn't happen.
I always thought e juice was a bad idea and people should buy it already in carts. The problem is kids drinkig it etc. I also always thought the e juice would ruin the ecig industry. It should be in tamper proof carts. The problem is everyone is too cheap to buy a cart and will make juice until the govt forces us out of it.
It would be pretty easy for a child to swallow and/or choke on one of my 901 carts, if I was dumb enough to leave them laying around near children. Same with large handfuls of Tylenol. Same with leaving cigarette lighters laying about.
The solution is keeping them out of the reach of children -- and pets, for that matter. It's not really that hard to keep a toddler from killing himself or herself accidentally.
That being said, I really don't use carts as anything other than a mouthpiece as I drip... which is better than a cart any day, in my opinion.
Im going to hazard a guess that you don't have any kids.
When you DO have kids you will know that we make the entire HOUSE kid proof or as kid proof as we can until they learn what can and can't be messed with.
Arguments like this 'kids might drink it' can apply to virtually anything you have that isn't water.
Cleaning products, alcohol,medicine (even medicine for kids), gasoline, propane, cooking oil, any kind of cooking product, coffee and tea (in large amounts these can be toxic for tiny livers and kidneys), glue, any other kind of adhesive, lamp oil, wood oil, any other kind of oil, antifreeze, windscreen wash, air freshner, rat poison, roach poison, bug spray, hairspray, shampoo, conidtioner, hair tonic, pot pourri (yes you can buy it in a lquid form now), perfume, aftershave..the list is endless.
Should we ban all these? When did you last see a perfume in a child proof bottle? What about shampoo? Motor oil?
Parents have responsiblities to make sure their kids aren't stupid enough to go trying this stuff; most of us succeed most of the time. ELiquid is NO different to any other hazardous material currently found around the home.
I find your post quite insulting.
E-cigs havent even been on the market long enough for anyone to claim they are responsible for heart attacks. More likly the 30 years of smoking before using e-cigs were the cause. There are alot of bias's companies/people out there that love to pass this type of thing on and say "See I told you they were BAD"
What we really need is less government and more personal accountability. If this is ever regulated, agreed - it should fall under the same category as any nicotine supplement. Keep it out of the reach of children.
Personally, the gum scares me more.
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So, did you even consult a medical professional? If so, what were the results?
Sure nicotine affects the heart, and it promotes, with constant use, potential pulmonary embolisms and other heart/circulatory problems.
Some people succumb to them easier than others due to heredity, use/overuse, and other habits. Someone who suffers a heart attack from nicotine could very well have built that pulmonary issue years prior with bad eating habits, previous smoking habits, overuse of other similar stimulants. It's a shame that further analysis, if this were the case, would not yield all possible reasons, just the hinges that the propaganda machines need to use to get their point across best.
Without hard data, and without responsible, unbiased research vs current and potential risk factors in every single living being on an individual basis, an absolute answer is impossible.
If you're concerned from having a heart attack from vaping.. stop vaping. The alternative to feeding a habit is feeding it another way.
Stop vaping, potentially pick up smoking (again) and shazaam, you're in the same situation, only worse. Getting *too* attached to vaping may be just as bad for your health as smoking. No one can say with absolute certainty. With the current state of chemical distribution as extenders, prohibitors, preservatives, etc.. there are so few things you can truly do in this life that *won't* potentially kill you in some fashion.
To believe that it's 100% safe is folly. To believe that it's so much more incredibly safe than smoking is absolutely true, and very obvious.
Then again, as we smokers used to say.. sure, and you can walk out your front door and get shot, or hit by a car, or trip and fall down the stairs and break your neck too. Hypocritical by a mile, but true nonetheless.
Never ever should you drink water. I read where a young girl drank too much of the stuff and it killed her.
Same with swimming. A young boy went swimming in the local pool, he ingested too much water and later while at home was not feeling well and he died.
Many people die within 20 miles of home-in car accidents.
A mothers purse is one of the most dangerous things left available to her toddler.
A bathtub with a couple inches of water can kill a toddler. Toilet is included.
An angry parent can completely obliterate an infants mind and even kill the child by shaking them in anger.
Too much Mickey Dees can kill you-may be a slow ugly death.
Alcohol consumption can kill-quickly/slowly-your choice.
Prescription drugs can kill you.
Non-Prescription drugs can kill you.
High-Rise construction work untethered could cause your death. Not because of the work but, because you choose not to tether yourself!
Attempting to be healthy can be deadly.
Not done but, my brain hurts........Hope I don't kill myself from trying to think of all the ways living can kill us.
We start dying the moment we are alive. Live each day to its fullest......Like it is your last day. Do not let anger get in the way of love. Tell your children and your spouse or significant other how much they mean to you. Let no moment get past you, that does not have love and happiness expressed and passed on. Never, never go to sleep or the store or work without saying-I LOVE YOU. I don't care how mad you are. It may be the last time.
Same with swimming. A young boy went swimming in the local pool, he ingested too much water and later while at home was not feeling well and he died.
Many people die within 20 miles of home-in car accidents.
A mothers purse is one of the most dangerous things left available to her toddler.
A bathtub with a couple inches of water can kill a toddler. Toilet is included.
An angry parent can completely obliterate an infants mind and even kill the child by shaking them in anger.
Too much Mickey Dees can kill you-may be a slow ugly death.
Alcohol consumption can kill-quickly/slowly-your choice.
Prescription drugs can kill you.
Non-Prescription drugs can kill you.
High-Rise construction work untethered could cause your death. Not because of the work but, because you choose not to tether yourself!
Attempting to be healthy can be deadly.
Not done but, my brain hurts........Hope I don't kill myself from trying to think of all the ways living can kill us.
We start dying the moment we are alive. Live each day to its fullest......Like it is your last day. Do not let anger get in the way of love. Tell your children and your spouse or significant other how much they mean to you. Let no moment get past you, that does not have love and happiness expressed and passed on. Never, never go to sleep or the store or work without saying-I LOVE YOU. I don't care how mad you are. It may be the last time.
I can see it... (totally playing devil's advocate here)
After all there is that ...... e-juice....and what are the warnings associated with ......?
I can totally see some guy with a heart condition trying the ...... juice and the ...... combined with the nic juice maybe sort of causing some issue.....lol
After all there is that ...... e-juice....and what are the warnings associated with ......?
I can totally see some guy with a heart condition trying the ...... juice and the ...... combined with the nic juice maybe sort of causing some issue.....lol
USAGI: You have approximately a user list of 35,000 and a members list of whatever the # is, probably 15,000+ and no claims yet.
Yes, that kind of news would have shown up on ECF because it would have been on the news as something new the person who died had been known to have been using.
I would say false.
Yes, that kind of news would have shown up on ECF because it would have been on the news as something new the person who died had been known to have been using.
I would say false.
I couldn't find anything when I googled it, but if it did happen (and it could) then it was a non-smoker trying 100mg juice or something.
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