Who in there right mind would want 36mg liquid???.... seems a bit excessive unless you are a laboratory.
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Except that is person doesn't vape, isn't interested in vaping and just wants to know how dangerous it is. I think people have been pretty nice.
As a very recent member, I too have noticed the "dog pile" on those whose views differ from the main. I must admit it made me reluctant to ask questions when I wasn't sure of something. We have two choices on how to handle cases like these, we can name call or we can answer politely with well researched facts to back up our claims. I do believe this last choice will do the most good as it will silence those who aren't sincere and educate those who honestly just don't know. To a newbs all this arguing back and forth is a big turn off and leaves the impression that we are overly defensive for a reason.
It would be nice to see the next time a "troll" show's up that he/she is shut down with facts and not hostility.
It would be nice to see the next time a "troll" show's up that he/she is shut down with facts and not hostility.
thankfully there are a lot of smart people in this world....and the only way to truly "ban" PV's would be to ban electronics and food addatives....not going to happen....DIY'ers have found ways around almost every governmental infringement on our personal liberties....i think the same would hold true if mass marketed PV's were "banned"....not worried at all....
also it's not the realm of super science to extract and blend nicotine....
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I think that's really, really unfair.
Each and every newbie that comes here is treated nicely. People take a great deal of time to explain things (probably for the 1,000 time) No one is ever made to feel stupid, and people bend over backwards to help. I know I was treated that way.
No one has to answer questions, and I am really appreciative of all the people that take the time to do that. Someone asks a question and there are three pages of responses. Nice responses.
Maybe the people that are a little savy around here can spot a troll.
I'm not speaking of every body here and your right there has been lots of very polite people willing to answer my questions, I have also had the other happen and it was not very kindly done. But I'm not speaking about that, what I'm tying to say is that perception matters and it's important to meat ignorance (no matter from whom) with cool and clam facts. The new people that are reading this don't know all the facts, I myself had know idea that there was even a possibility that the e-cig would be banned. If we don't use these "troll" opportunities to counter what they say in a clear manner then they have indeed achieved their mission, they have planted doubt.
I also wanted to add that as unfair as it might be, peoples bad experiences are the most remembered and the most retold. It's just our nature. I sincerely apologize if I've offended you or anyone else, that was not my intent.
"one can lure more flies with honey, than vinegar" ----wise man
P.S. the above statement is actually not scientifically accurate....in a study conducted by UCB scientists, fruit flies were actually more attracted to vinegar than honey....because vinegar is easier for them to sip.....but I think my point is understood....
P.S. the above statement is actually not scientifically accurate....in a study conducted by UCB scientists, fruit flies were actually more attracted to vinegar than honey....because vinegar is easier for them to sip.....but I think my point is understood....
I think it would be dangerous to inject nic juice into the bloodstream, but nicotine is absorbed by the body in many ways and in many effects. While drinking a 30 ml bottle of 36 mg. nic juice may seem catastrophically dangerous, it's alot more likely to cause a laxative type effect, due to the hydroscopic property of the pg or vg.. likely your body gets rid of it before it can do real harm, either through vomiting or the other way.. It seems the best way to ingest nicotine is through the lungs, gums, or sinuses.
The op came in here for "input" because of his friends using an e-cig. He apparently had a few misconceptions about the e-liquid and wanted to know if a mouthful would be lethal...this is the place i would come if i wanted to know that answer. Most of his lines had a ???? We have alot of people come in here asking questions for family members, co-workers and friends, they themselves, as the op, do not smoke or vape. He just wanted his questions shot down or verified by actual e-cig users. Maybe now he can fully support his vaping friends with the information he got in here instead of telling them how harmful it is. I think that was all he was looking for..
You do have to use common sense when you are mixing your ejuice, that is a given. Keeping it away from pets and children is also a given. Those are also normally daily precautions we should be taking with many items in our daily lives. As with many other products it is unsafe in its concentrated form. However, I have on several occasions gotten the juice in my mouth, 24 mg, with NO reaction at all, not even a burning or itching sensation. The taste is not the greatest but no side effects at all.
I too agree, answering the questions with a mature organized response is best. If it is someone trolling, so be it, coming back with an answer that is real, honest, and at least somewhat intelligent will indeed shut them down quickly. One cannot argue with one who won't argue. If they have made a point to strike fear, the best solution is to counter the fear with the knowledge of why it is a myth. F-E-A-R = False Evidence Appearing Real. The best defense to fear is education. Whenever we are afraid of an unknown, the knowledge removes the fear and replaces it with understanding.
As a relatively new member of vaping I have many questions that there are no answers to, at least not yet. As with all new areas of life we learn as we go and gain experience. I must say though, that I smoked for many years and since I quit and started vaping, I can feel a difference. I will be going in and having a lung function test done at 3 months to see if it has changed at all. I feel better and believe that I will see an improvement.
I can also say that I have shared vaping with family and friends who were smokers and they are amazed at how much better they feel. All honest communication which shows that the benefits of vaping are true and real. Everyone I know who has given up smoking for vaping has experienced some or all of these: increased energy, clearer breathing, better attitude, stopped having sinus headaches, stopped coughing, and a better self image. So vaping is probably NOT 100% safe, but I do believe it is better MUCH better for you than smoking. I have even found that I eat better since I started vaping. No more skipping meals and smoking instead.
So, yeah common sense and knowledge. Listening to the people who have smoked for years and those who are sick from smoking see what they have to say. Listen to what has changed in their lives after making the switch from smoking to vaping. While "clinical" studies are unknown, we do know what people are experiencing.
Stop being defenders and start being educators. Placing more focus on positive education and less on defending will go further than jumping on the defense bandwagon. Believe me I don't want to see vaping banned. I want to see people educated and fear removed.
I too agree, answering the questions with a mature organized response is best. If it is someone trolling, so be it, coming back with an answer that is real, honest, and at least somewhat intelligent will indeed shut them down quickly. One cannot argue with one who won't argue. If they have made a point to strike fear, the best solution is to counter the fear with the knowledge of why it is a myth. F-E-A-R = False Evidence Appearing Real. The best defense to fear is education. Whenever we are afraid of an unknown, the knowledge removes the fear and replaces it with understanding.
As a relatively new member of vaping I have many questions that there are no answers to, at least not yet. As with all new areas of life we learn as we go and gain experience. I must say though, that I smoked for many years and since I quit and started vaping, I can feel a difference. I will be going in and having a lung function test done at 3 months to see if it has changed at all. I feel better and believe that I will see an improvement.
I can also say that I have shared vaping with family and friends who were smokers and they are amazed at how much better they feel. All honest communication which shows that the benefits of vaping are true and real. Everyone I know who has given up smoking for vaping has experienced some or all of these: increased energy, clearer breathing, better attitude, stopped having sinus headaches, stopped coughing, and a better self image. So vaping is probably NOT 100% safe, but I do believe it is better MUCH better for you than smoking. I have even found that I eat better since I started vaping. No more skipping meals and smoking instead.
So, yeah common sense and knowledge. Listening to the people who have smoked for years and those who are sick from smoking see what they have to say. Listen to what has changed in their lives after making the switch from smoking to vaping. While "clinical" studies are unknown, we do know what people are experiencing.
Stop being defenders and start being educators. Placing more focus on positive education and less on defending will go further than jumping on the defense bandwagon. Believe me I don't want to see vaping banned. I want to see people educated and fear removed.
I'm not a troll and have been vaping on and off for year..fact is i was very concerned about the dangers of e-cigs when i started and did a lot of research reading and perhaps even a few troll like postings (esp after i got a bad batch of juice from someone) In the end i was convinced it was safe for me and i got pretty careless with my supplies and discovered that i was leaving them at child level when kids were around...someone did the math for me as to how much juice it would take to injure seriously a 25 -35 lb child and it woke me up to the actual hazard. i actually popped into this thread to see if any new information had cropped up about best practices sub fatal health risks that folks may have discovered etc.
This stuff tastes bad and even with chocolate flavor in it's nasty but a curious kid could get ahold of it, or an idiot on a dare in a bar and it is a dangerous substance and folks can order some pretty high concentrations, 100 ml etc etc.
anyway --i'm confident at this point that vaping is far safer than smoking and the reasoned careful arguments i read in my first months won me over--so onward--anybody seen any cool new mods. :>
This stuff tastes bad and even with chocolate flavor in it's nasty but a curious kid could get ahold of it, or an idiot on a dare in a bar and it is a dangerous substance and folks can order some pretty high concentrations, 100 ml etc etc.
anyway --i'm confident at this point that vaping is far safer than smoking and the reasoned careful arguments i read in my first months won me over--so onward--anybody seen any cool new mods. :>
True, and really little kids'll drink anything, it's like they don't have taste buds or something, they're nuts. Then you have to worry about bigger kids trying to emulate mom and dad by trying it out for themselves. I know I sure did -- smoked my first cigarette in third grade in the bathroom at my elementary school. Then with teens, you better smell their gloves in the winter and keep your cash locked up (I only know this part from my memory of being one - I'm hoping mine won't be hell raisers like I was).
Kids are nuts.
You certainly didn't offend me. And I do know what you're saying about asking an innocent question and feeling like your attacked. It happened to me before (not on this board or regarding this topic) and I didn't go back. I haven't read every single thread but I read here for months before I ever posted, I don't get a sense that people do that here. Especially in the new member section. My experience has been that people here have been extremely nice in this section.
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