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[Mekanic]

Hey all, been lurking a while, and want to start vaping, I've read all the stickies, but I'm still confused about what I should buy to help ensure success in quitting analogs.

Little info, I'm a PAD Marlboro red smoker, have been for 13 years. I'm an HVAC service tech, so I spend most of my day in my van, or at job sites. So I spend up to 14 hours away from home every day. My cell phone charger does have a USB port though, but I still need something that will last me the day.

Dripping does not scare me, as long as I'm not continuously having to add juice.

As far as juice or carts or what have you, I'm not interested in TH, as I don't get any TH from analogs, and I want something of a similar flavor, and nicotine content of reds.

SO in a nutshell, does anyone have a recommendation on something that lasts a long time, inexpensive to operate, little to no TH, and tastes like a red with similar nicotine content?

Thanks! Your suggestions will influence my order, which I will hopefully be placing tonight.

~Rich

 

[Balthezar]

Welcome to ECF Mekanic.
I will let you know what I use, and you can decide if it helps. I have an eGo passthrough. You can plug it in and vape (can get a car adapter for USB if you don't have one) or unplug it and vape, so might be good for all day in van. I prefer cartomizers to dripping, and you don't want to drip and drive anyway heheh. The TH usually comes more from nic content, and also more VG will give you less TH, more vapor, but also cuts the flavor a bit. It's hard to copy the flavor of analogs, but there are some that come close, as you will hear all about flavors very shortly (many, many people will be here to help). You can get the eGo passthrough here for 16.99, and with a 5 pack of cartos you get a free bottle of juice.

eGo 510 650mAh USB Passthrough Battery

Good luck, and whatever you decide to go with will be a good choice, if it helps get you off or slow down with analogs.

Balth

 

[Mekanic]

Thats a great idea Balth, how long is the USB?

 

[wv2win]

Being a Marlboro smoker, I would think you would want a good throat hit. Throat hit (a poor descriptive term IMO) is simply the "inhaled feel" of a cigarette/analog.

The good "beginner" models, such as the Riva 510 or E-Power 510, will give you about 5 hours on a charge. But you would only have to carry one small extra battery to double your vape time. I would get one of these with manual batteries (better control, safer), some cartomizers which requires less re-filling and is less messy than carts and 18mg - 24mg nicotine strength liquid. I would also get some 11mg liquid in the same flavor incase you find the higher nicotine level too much and you can then mix the two to make a lower level, if you need to.

e-Power

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510

Longer lasting battery Riva:

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva UNC

Note: mini models that look like the real thing will only give you about an hour of vaping before needing to change batteries. There are models, like the one I use, that provide 21 hours on a charge and have many other advantages. But they cost a good bit more and I wouldn't recommend them until you are sure that vaping will work for you.

 

[sandybeach]

I'd get the Kgo! It has a USB cord that you can use with an iPod adapter to charge in the car. Plus it comes with two batteries, and one charge lasts all day. I just started vaping a week ago, and I love my Kgo! KGO 1100 mAh 2 battery kit

 

[VapingRulz]

I would not recommend the E-Power given the fact that recently, at least two people on this forum have received bad ones with switches that won't turn off. We don't know how many non-forum people have had the same problem.

I would suggest that you avoid the E-Power unless/until they fix the problem.

 

[Mekanic]

The only PV I have ever used was when I tried one of the White Cloud's at a mall kiosk, He used a liquid that is supposed to be similar to a Marlboro, the flavor was good, but it literally burned the back of my throat, when smoking an analog I feel pretty much nothing in the throat, but some feeling in the lung would be good.

I think this may be why more are not turning to vaping, SOOO many options, and no real easy way to try things to determine what is best for each individual.

But forums like this where someone new like me can benefit from the experience of you all is the only reason I'm able to make an educated decision, I can say if it wasn't for this site, I'd just give up and stick with analogs.

 

[Balthezar]

Thats a great idea Balth, how long is the USB?

My cord is about 4 ft long, I got it from a different place, $2 more, and they are out of them, not sure if it's the same cord or not, they don't give the length.

http://www.xtremevaping.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=244&category_id=4&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1

Balth

added: you can use a USB extension if it's not long enough, I have one connected to mine so I can walk around the room.

 

[VapingRulz]

The throat hit you describe is determined by both the nicotine level and the composition of the liquid: higher PG means a bigger throat hit. It sounds like you need a higher ratio of VG and maybe a lower nicotine level. This only helps you if you know the specs for the liquid you vaped originally.

 

[Mekanic]

I know the White Cloud I tried was the Extra Strength Regular, I have no idea how much nicotine is in it as their website does not say, but they do say all their carts are 80-96% PG

 

[Mekanic]

From looking around I'm thinking about an Ego T Type B. Thoughts?

 

[DaveP]

I'd order the Riva 510 kit to get started. That will give you two 750mah batteries that will get you through a long day. You can also use the USB adapter for your car to charge the battery you aren't using at the time. The charger cord unplugs from the wall adapter and has a USB connector on the end that will transfer to the car adapter. I like hands free with an ecig while driving, so personally I wouldn't use a USB passthrough in a moving vehicle. There's no reason to do so if you can use one battery for 5 or 6 hours while the other one is charging.

There are also large eGo/Riva style batteries that are available. You can buy 1000mah and 1300mah batts that give you 10-12 hours of vaping easily. They are an inch or so longer than the standard battery, but still fit in a pocket. If you buy the eGo-T batteries, they have a feature that allows you to turn off the battery before you put it in a pants pocket to prevent accidental button presses that can kill a battery sooner. You just press the fire button 5 times to turn the battery off or on. That feature will be needed since you are constantly squatting or in a crawl space in your job.

I'd also recommend Boge cartomizers. You can quickly fill 2 or three of these to last you all day. If you carry a bottle of juice in you truck, you can pop the cap and add a couple of drops to top off the cartomizer from time to time. Most people use 3ml-5ml of juice a day and the Boge cartos hold 1ml. They are a screw on, screw off quick change. The tanks are fine, but prone to leak in a pocket from the expansion caused by body heat. Cartos are less prone to leakage and come with silicone caps to seal your spares.

 

[Dynel]

My 1000 mah Ego-T manual battery lasts me all day, easily. I vaped heavily when I started, but I'm starting to slow down. I constantly vape when I'm driving, but when I'm at home I usually take a few drags every hour and that satisfies me enough. I'm vaping 16mg juice with Dual Coil cartomizers. Cartomizers are my favorite juice delivery method because they're simple and last all day.

 

[Tallmaan84]

Liberty-Flights sells the 1000mah battery/passthrough. Thats defintely going to be my next investment. The theory sounds pretty sound. A 1000mah battery that works as a passthrough. Pretty ingenious imo.

 

[pnc81498]

From looking around I'm thinking about an Ego T Type B. Thoughts?

This is what i tell family members to start with but also include a box of l/R cartomizers, Tanks tend to leak in my opinion and some people are frustrated fast. I have all PV mentioned above and all are good starter kits, I would suggest looking for a deal on 1 this week with all the deals going on now http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/pay-forward-pif/85781-deals-steals.html. at-least 60ml of juice to start nothing worst then saying wow i can do this!!! then not having the juice to continue.

Never trust the spell check here i think it misspelz my mispelded words on poorpose.

 

[Stef64]

From looking around I'm thinking about an Ego T Type B. Thoughts?

I am not a big fan of the tank atomizers like the eGo Type A or B. IMO they dull the flavor when compared to other options and are prone to leaking. The eGo T batteries will provide enough power for you to vape for six hours or more depending on the mAH rating (100 mAH = approximatly 1 hour of moderate vaping).They also have a handy on/off feature so it cannot accidently fire in your pocket, and you can use both regular and low resistance atomizers/cartomizers. The batteries are also regulated, meaning they will provide a constant 3.2-3.4V and will not drop off in performance as you use them. Personally I prefer the Riva or KGo batteries as they provide more voltage (appr. 3.7V) but they they are unregulated, so they start off strong and their performance diminishes as the charge gets used up.

Overall I think the eGo starter kit is a good kit for beginners. If you find that you don't like the tanks, you can always get some cartomizers to top your batteries. To start off make sure you have a couple batteries and atomizers and don't forget about juice. Since flavor is very subjective I would get several different flavors in small bottles - when you find the flavor you like, buy larger bottles.

 

[pnc81498]

Now this is my biased recomendation..... Order a VV get it over with now if you can afford to lay out the .... Check http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/classifieds-swaps/ I haven't used anything but a vv device since my first provari and like i said i have all mentioned above.

 

[chatter97]

That rough throat hit is only the first couple of vapes. When I first started a friend got me started, he gave me a large glass of water and told me how to vape. That goes away pretty quickly. The burning in the throat I believe is just initial irritation as you are inhaling vapor and not smoke. I personally prefer the ego or kgo style of ecig for starting off. That way if you decide you want something more down the line, the 510 threading is pretty common and you do not have to buy additional accessories to switch(If you still have usable cartos). I know allot of people here recommend liberty flights riva 510 carto kit as there is an additional 20% off coupon clickable at the top of the page and you get cartos to start with and not cartridges. Also, most kits include two batteries.

Regarding flavors, you think you want analog flavored juice now, but try to keep yourself open to other possibilities. Allot of us have started off thinking that, but you learn pretty quickly that there are some great flavors that you will really enjoy. Vaping is not like smoking in that regard. I have known many people that start out with the goal of finding an analog replacement flavor and find they really like something totally different such as cinnamon or toffee or coffeee. whatever, there is tons of flavors out there and most of them are pretty good to amazing.

Realize that mall kiosks will charge you an arm and a leg for what you can get online at half the cost.

 

[wv2win]

I would not recommend the E-Power given the fact that recently, at least two people on this forum have received bad ones with switches that won't turn off. We don't know how many non-forum people have had the same problem.

I would suggest that you avoid the E-Power unless/until they fix the problem.

In that same thread, there were a number of E-Power (14650)owners who posted how well it worked and never experiencing any problems. In fact there have been whole threads on how well it works. I"ve also read posts from Riva and Ego owners having numerous problems with their PV's. Any mass produced, inexpensive model will have some bad models get to consumers. Singling out one model as being "bad" based on two owners experience over the many positive posts does not seem to pass the "logic" test.

I would recommend for any PV purchase, that the buyer be aware of what the warranty period is.

 

[travis88]

From looking around I'm thinking about an Ego T Type B. Thoughts?

I'm pretty new myself and about to make an order today, I've been doing much research though and ego-t was my first thought but then I seen the Ego-C which is what I'll probably end up getting. It's nearly the same exact thing to the Ego-T besides it has easy access to the atomizer for cleaning/changing. Take a look at youtube videos on cleaning a Ego-T atomizer then take a look at the new Ego-C videos. To me it seams like the Ego-C would be much better to start with. Also the Ego-C is listed at 69.99 on Ovaleusa.com though their retail market value may go up to 125$ after November is over. If you are scared of leakage there is also a silicone cap to replace the hard cap which is known to fix leakage problems. Though do keep in mind a Ego-T type B is 2ml compared to Ego-C at 1.2ml. Also both the Ego-C and Ego-T batteries are interchangeable so you could pick up a Ego-T usb pass-through and it would work on an Ego-C aswell. All in all egos are very versatile and interchangeable due to its 510 threading from what I can see.