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wv2win

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I got my new E-Power 14650 last week and it has operated flawlessly.

Just curious but where did you get your E-Power from that the supplier wouldnt send you a new one, since your saying you got burned.
My buddy just got an E-Power from the same "bad batch" after trying mine and he loves it and hasnt had the slightest problem.
PVs are electrical devices that are mass produced. Doesnt matter if its a cheap one or the most expensive PV out there, they ALL have occasional bad apples. Do you really think that a device that has wires, circuits, batteries and are mass produced by the thousands are going to make every single one flawlessly? Theres a thread on the New member forum right now about a person that got a DOA Prodigy V3.1. Even the all mechanical PVs have occasional bad ones and they dont even have all the complicated wires and circuits to potentially screw up. Ecig makers give a short warranty period because they know that there are going to have a few bad onesthat customers recieve that they didnt catch.
Im sorry that you got unlucky and got a bad E-Power, but saying that there is obviously a problem with the current batch of E-Powers because of one bad unit is ridiculous.

There are two posters here with the same problem: newly purchased E-Power's that will not turn off. A new switch does not solve the problem. They don't work as they should; they're downright dangerous if you don't remember to unscrew them after every single vape.

Why on earth would you recommend the E-Power to anyone right now when you know there are documented problems?

I really don't need a lecture on the mass production of ecigs. I know all about it - I've been vaping for over two years and I've tried several different models. The bottom line is that the current crop of E-Power's have a problem and frankly, it's not very nice to recommend it to people when you know this.

I guess all those statistic courses I took were wrong. Three people reporting a problem with a particular PV must mean the 15 - 20 plus posts I have read extolling the virtures of the E-Power are not valid. I don't know what to think about the posts I've read stating that there were problems with the eGo and Riva models. I guess the only logical course of action is to not recommend any model at all.
 
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If you experience any leaking with an eGo-T you can get some soft rubber end caps for the tank carts, the hard plastic tank carts don't always seal great but the soft rubber ones do a great job I hear. Cost about $1 something for a pack of 10 usually.

I tried a bunch of tobacco flavours from Healthcabin but nothing was quite like a Marlboro red to me, my favourite of the lot was the HC "Wensten" one, I ended up buying a big bottle of it but now I am stalking the mailman for an order from Virgin Vapor because I finally crave non-tobacco flavours and like that they're 100% organic.
 

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I smoked Marlboro Red for a long time, but changed to Doral for the price in my area. MR was $44 a carton and Doral was $26-$28. Camel from Awesome Vapor has been my daily vape for a long time now. It's close enough to what I expect to be satisfactory. Vaping a mist from an ecig will never be exactly like smoking burning leaves in a paper tube, but you will find that you will quickly decide that vaping tastes much better. The calm that tobacco gives you is related to the MAOI component of tobacco, not so much the nicotine.

Read this for more info: This is your brain on nicotine

Another link for a poll of PG/VG favorite ratios. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/99025-what-pv-vg-ratio-do-you-like-best.html
 

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Local store that mixes on site said it's 18mg. I have no way of testing other than I know it does not fix my nic craving..

And the coconut I got has no coconut flavor at all, just the general sweetness from the vg/pg.

From many polls on this and other vaping sites, the majority need 24mg strength to make the transition to vaping. Many actually use 36mg strength. You can easily lower the nic level of an eliquid but you can't make it stronger. I would kick it up some and see how that works.
 

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I guess all those statistic courses I took were wrong. Three people reporting a problem with a particular PV must mean the 15 - 20 plus posts I have read extolling the virtures of the E-Power are not valid. I don't know what to think about the posts I've read stating that there were problems with the eGo and Riva models. I guess the only logical course of action is to not recommend any model at all.

I don't care about the problems with EGo's or Riva's because I didn't buy any bad ones. I care about the E-Power because I *did* get a bad one - and the usual fixes don't work. People, especially the newbies, need to understand that this e-cig model has a problem right now and it's less of a sure bet than most of the large-battery models out there. They're better off going with a different e-cig until the problem is fixed, unless they can afford to gamble.

Why on earth do you insist on recommending the E-Power as though it's problem-free, in light of the documented problems that have been discussed here? It's not like with an EGo or Riva or KR808 where it's fairly cheap to replace the unit if you get a dud. With the E-Power, you've already invested in your rechargeable batteries and charger - and if you've had problems, you've probably also invested in a new replacement switch. When it STILL doesn't work, you have no options left aside from buying a completely new unit or going with another e-cig model.
 

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Or just send it back and have them send you a new one?
Yup, no other options...
Saying why would you recommend someone a product that obviously has problems, I'm sorry but is dumb. I never once said oh buy this PV because it never has problems and is perfect. Like I said before they all have occasional bad ones. I don't get why your throwing such a fit and a
Saying you got burned. SEND IT BACK AND GET A NEW ONE!! Why is that not an option?
How can you say that newbies should know that it has a problem right now and it's less of a sure bet than most others. Do you know that for a fact? Oh that must be true since your the only person that had ever gotten a dud unit...
What a newbie should know is that even the best PVs occasionally have problems. That's why you send it back and have them send you a new one. So if you get a pack of cartomizers that have one DOA are you going to say no one should buy those because their all garbage and another would be a safer bet??
Okay so yes you got a bad one. There's also prob about a 1000 other people that just got one and couldn't be happier.
I remember when you got yours, my buddy got his about 2 days after you from your so called "obvious problem batch" and it works flawlessly and he loves it.
I've been using mine for months everyday, and while I did buy an extra switch for just in case, I'm still using my original switch, original batteries and original everything else.
So yes, I will keep recommending it because it's an easy to use, inexpensive, great hitting PV that has cheap batteries that last a long time and allows you to use many different attys/cartos, without having to replace the entire unit if a part breaks.
Have a great Thanksgiving! :)
 

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I don't care about the problems with EGo's or Riva's because I didn't buy any bad ones. I care about the E-Power because I *did* get a bad one - and the usual fixes don't work. People, especially the newbies, need to understand that this e-cig model has a problem right now and it's less of a sure bet than most of the large-battery models out there. They're better off going with a different e-cig until the problem is fixed, unless they can afford to gamble.

Why on earth do you insist on recommending the E-Power as though it's problem-free, in light of the documented problems that have been discussed here? It's not like with an EGo or Riva or KR808 where it's fairly cheap to replace the unit if you get a dud. With the E-Power, you've already invested in your rechargeable batteries and charger - and if you've had problems, you've probably also invested in a new replacement switch. When it STILL doesn't work, you have no options left aside from buying a completely new unit or going with another e-cig model.

Because your bad mouthing of the E-power based on three people's experience against the 20 or more people who have not had a problem has no common sense to support it. If you had stated "I had a problem but many people have not and they think it is a good model", I wouldn't have commented.

It's like on the car forums when someone comes on and states "stay away from Honda" because the poster got a lemon. Your problem does NOT translate into their must be a switch problem with all E-Powers made. If we start seeing that 25+ posters start posting that their switches are defective, then you might be able to extrapolate that there is a bad batch that was produced. With the warranties that are provided by reputable suppliers, any problem should be fixed to the customer's satisfaction.

But with all the problems posted about both the Riva and eGo's, if you recommend them, then that will tell us much.

Bottom line, every mass produced model will have some issues. It doesn't warrant bad mouthing the entire model or disregarding the obvious advantages to the model. Plus, every battery one has to replace on the ego/riva costs more than a new switch on the E-Power.
 

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Good PVs. Do you know what mixture they are? PG/VG, like 50/50, or 60/40VG? More VG will give more vapor, and less flavor and TH. Also if these are fresh made juices, they improve if they steep. Tomorrow they may taste better, and the next day even better. I find this is almost always the case when I mix mine. Some people even wait a week or more, but I want to vape it NOW..so even 1 day is hard for me LOL.

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Tanks generally like juices with the consistency of PG w/ 30% or less VG though some vendors thin their VG so a bit more VG may work. VG makes more vapor but dulls flavor, nicotine TH, nicotine irritation.

Tank atomizers may need their wick repositioned for best flavor - search Youtube for Ego-t wick (and you could try 510-T wick)

And I always recommend Ego-T and 510-T users buy some cartomizers as a backup and for any clingy flavors you don't want in your atomizers. And for cinnamons because cinnamon can damage plastic. The slim 510 can use standard resistance cartomizers (2.5 to 3 ohms) and the Ego can use down to 2 ohms or 1.7ohms and some will go to 1.5 but others have damaged Egos with 1.5. Lower s hotter. Boge are simplest and most popular and I use them with PG w/ 20% or less VG though 30% works.

And warning - if you bought automatic 510-T, its charging cable is dangerous to all other 510-threaded devices so I recommend labeling it on both sides where you screw in the battery. Use it only for automatic 510-T batteries. The only exception is if the vendor stated it's a normal 510 charging cable. Also never use the Ego cable to charge slim any 510's - the Ego cable puts out more mA and can damage slim batteries.
 

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I'm thinking it isn't the juice as much as it's my atomizer, as the same juice has good flavor through my fiance's super cig.

SO, now I'm going to order a new atty, I can't decide between a Type B and new tanks, or one of the tanks with the cart I've seen on here.

Any suggestions to get the most flavor out of my ego, while still having something that holds 2ml +
 

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I'm thinking it isn't the juice as much as it's my atomizer, as the same juice has good flavor through my fiance's super cig.

SO, now I'm going to order a new atty, I can't decide between a Type B and new tanks, or one of the tanks with the cart I've seen on here.

Any suggestions to get the most flavor out of my ego, while still having something that holds 2ml +

I would look at one of these. It holds about 3 - 4ml of eliquid:

eGo Mega Dual Coil Cartomizer
 

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I ordered 2 Type B atty's and some tanks last night after reading how much better at flavor and vapor production than the A, if those still don't cut it I'm going to try the dual coil carts.

I'm also realizing it may very well be the juice as well, I just dripped some of the juice I have and I barely got any flavor at all. SO I think it's a vicious combo of juice and atty.

New juice on it's way from MyFreedomSmokes, and new atty's and tanks on the way from Liberty-Flights, so we shall see shortly.

I will say this, I have went from over a pack a day, to yesterday I had 2 analogs, today I have had none. There has not been a day in 14 years I've smoked so little.
 

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WV, will that work on a Kgo, too? That looks great.

I don't have a Kgo but it should work fine. On my Darwin, I do need to use a 510 to 510 extender because the 510 carto connection is recessed so that it looks "flush" when you put it on an ego. It might not be necessary with the Kgo. This is the extender that I got:

510 Battery Extension
 

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I think you should def get some cartomizers. Their less of a hassle and many give good flavor.
If your going to use dual coils, don't use cartos that are really low ohms. If you want to use LR cartos the 2.0ohm work well on the eGo. The 1.5ohm dual coils put a lot of stress on the eGo mosfet and can fry it if your not careful. It might work okay for awhile but if the cartos ohms are alittle lower or it drops with use you really risk ruining you battery. Cartos normally are +/-.2oms. So If a 1.5ohm carto really is running at 1.3ohms you could pretty easily turn your eGo into a paperweight. The 2.0ohms wont stress the batteries as bad and if one is .2 ohms lower it's got a lot less of a chance of frying it.
The boge 2.0ohm LR cartos work great on the eGo and are popular but they are regular size so they hold around 1ml.
If you really want something that holds more, I would try the Ressurectors from CCV. They are 1.7ohm LR and hold a little bit over 2ml. The ressurectors will be a warmer vape than the Boge 2.0s and give alittle more TH. They are made for a 3.7V PV and the eGo is 3.4V but they still work fine. Thy won't be at full potential on an eGo, but many people still love them. They are single coil but many feel they produce vapor similar to a dual coil. They also won't drain your battery as fast as a dual coil. I use the Ressurectors on an EPower and they are incredible. They hold about twice as much juice as the boges so they last a long time. I fill 2 in the morning and they last all day. Their also much easier to carry then a tank when your out. I think you'd really like them. Their at least worth trying.
CCV sells the Ressurectors and also has Boges. They also have free shipping so its nice when you just want to order cartos.
Also with every pack of cartos you get a free syringe that you can use to fill them. If you get the Ressurectors I recommend using the syringe to fill them since they hold alot more juice. Dripping and the condom method work well with the boges but I find don't work as well on the Ressurectors. Dripping takes a long time to settle and the condom method doesn't work as well on big cartos. I use a syringe to fill all mine and think is def the quickest and easiest way. It will ensure their filled correctly which will cut down the chances of burning the wick bc they didn't have enough juice and ruining the cartos. Also if you buy a 15-pack you get a syringe and a free drip tip so it's def a good deal. I get 2-3 weeks out of one carto so for me their well worth the price. I think you will like cartos much more than the eGo tanks.

Goodluck!
 
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