Cloudmaker whiteout is a DNA200 or SX350J (and their own ares chipset) modular mod, crowd-funded project that has been dragging on for ages. Nothing to do with cloudmaking per se so what's your point?? All I was saying was the innokin disruptor TC has been floating around as a virtual device for what is in the current climate, an age and nothing has transpired yet.
As for your rant against eleaf, I have never had a problem with istick 30, 50, 40TC or the 60TC. You , like many, are jumping on the eleaf-bashing wagon on the basis of a limited number of badly manufactured devices from yesteryear...time to step off the high horse maybe and actually read and understand what I was saying..thanks for the lecture but no thanks...
...by the way, my post was meant to be somewhat ironic/humorous but obviously too subtle for some...
Yes, that never works as i took the cloud maker comment as a hit against Innokin and yes i do know very well what the "cloudmaker whiteout" is . Actually my post was more directed to the gentlemen you quoted and not yourself so my apologies.
Now regarding "Eleaf", no chance i will back down on what they have proved to be about . They are a company that has been found to pack forums with paid shills that do nothing but praise their products while talking down their competitors , "Reddit" found they had many many accounts linked to them and was called out just a few months ago .
Eleaf also has refused to provide warranty coverage on all their failed products over the years even when it was proved that their products were faulty and in no way was caused by user error .
The excuses they use most often are " since you were not using an official Eleaf tank " we will not warranty your Eleaf mod because you used a non Eleaf tank " and "unless you bought your Eleaf product directly through us your product will not be warranted" .
How many people buy their Eleaf products directly through Eleaf and not a vendor , not many and they use the "you bought it through a vendor and not us " excuse very often in denying warranty claims .
Now a Vendor may replace your Eleaf product but they will not be reimbursed by Eleaf .
Those are the two most used Eleaf responses to warranty coverage, a real shame .
Phil Busardo said in one of his You Tube reviews after reviewing the Innokin Coolfire 4 that Innokin and Eleaf are on completely opposite sides of the spectrum in regards to quality .
He said Innokin has it in droves while Eleaf has none , that really says something . If you like you Eleaf i'm happy for you but their extremely shady business practices and refusal to warranty their products has made many former customers look elsewhere for those reasons alone .
Eleaf definitely deserves the criticism they get , it's for very good reason.
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