(input wanted)I'm doing some research on the safety of inhaling the ingredients we vape
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If you want peoples opinion I would suggest stop acting so defensive when they give their opinion.
Dr. Farsalinos study on diacetyl in e-liquid
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The entire study seems very convoluted and unclear.
Mann-Whitney test P=0.002. This is probably because the samples containing AP-only were all refill samples. B. Higher levels of AP were found in concentrated flavorings samples (n=10, 123.9 [IQR: 17.5-582.5]) compared to refill samples (n=43, 36.5 [IQR: 6.7-158]),
To me this seems there basing there highest findings on straight flavoring concentrates which we all know is never vaped straight.
I sure wish these results were interpeted in more laymans terms that the average person could understand.
I did find a clearer explination of the results here:
http://www.ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/research/2014/178-da-ap
Another source seems to say this report says that there within safe limits. But on the other hand is also comparing that to actual smoking????
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This isn't scientific, but my grandma has gotten secondhand vape from a particular juice that affected her negatively. It was Coco chocolate almond bar (no PG) by Top Vapor. She was in her bedroom down the hall, and I was in the living room on a mech. She came down the hall and said she couldn't handle the smell. Her throat sounded scratchy, and was coughing a little. She has had no other adverse reactions to any flavors besides not liking the smell from one.
Obviously it was not a reaction to PG, since it didn't have any, so I am guessing it was either the chocolate, coconut or almond flavoring. I stopped vaping that flavor and used up the rest away from her. Otherwise she likes that I am not smoking anymore, but has mixed feelings about vaping in general since she sees it as potentially "unsafe" [emoji17] [emoji52]
Obviously it was not a reaction to PG, since it didn't have any, so I am guessing it was either the chocolate, coconut or almond flavoring. I stopped vaping that flavor and used up the rest away from her. Otherwise she likes that I am not smoking anymore, but has mixed feelings about vaping in general since she sees it as potentially "unsafe" [emoji17] [emoji52]
Sometimes just a smell can make us feel sick. There are several smells that give me headaches.
Hello everyone. I am not a "research scientist", but I still recognize that if vaping was anywhere near as dangerous to my health as smoking, someone would have recognized and documented it in the last 10 years. The CDC indicates, "Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including an estimated 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day."
( CDC - Fact Sheet - Fast Facts - Smoking & Tobacco Use ) And 0 deaths attributed to vaping. That's crazy in my favor!
I see no allure to ecigs save the fact its in the news so much, unless you were previously addicted to tobacco use. I can make no decisions for you, and none for your children. I however was addicted to cigarettes for almost 35 years. Please don't presume to ban or legislate the only thing that has given me freedom from regular cigarettes since Dec 13 2013. Thats right, day after tomorrow it will have been 9 months since I smoked. This may or may not be "safe", but for myself I feel much better knowing I have stopped doing the thing that contributes to so many deaths per year in this country, to doing something that they cant proved is completely "safe".
I understand someone with everything to loose not wanting to inhale questionable substances. But those of us who were smoking deserve the opportunity to, at the very least, greatly reduce the amount of damage we cause ourselves physically.
I have not yet saved a dime however. I enjoy the search for new juice, new equipment, better techniques. I even look forward to seeing the mailman some days.
Make your own decision, take responsibility for yourself and keep children out of this stuff. And let me do the same. sorry for the rant, Im just so tired of people wanting proof that vaping is safe when we know full well what the health risk are from smoking.
( CDC - Fact Sheet - Fast Facts - Smoking & Tobacco Use ) And 0 deaths attributed to vaping. That's crazy in my favor!
I see no allure to ecigs save the fact its in the news so much, unless you were previously addicted to tobacco use. I can make no decisions for you, and none for your children. I however was addicted to cigarettes for almost 35 years. Please don't presume to ban or legislate the only thing that has given me freedom from regular cigarettes since Dec 13 2013. Thats right, day after tomorrow it will have been 9 months since I smoked. This may or may not be "safe", but for myself I feel much better knowing I have stopped doing the thing that contributes to so many deaths per year in this country, to doing something that they cant proved is completely "safe".
I understand someone with everything to loose not wanting to inhale questionable substances. But those of us who were smoking deserve the opportunity to, at the very least, greatly reduce the amount of damage we cause ourselves physically.
I have not yet saved a dime however. I enjoy the search for new juice, new equipment, better techniques. I even look forward to seeing the mailman some days.
Make your own decision, take responsibility for yourself and keep children out of this stuff. And let me do the same. sorry for the rant, Im just so tired of people wanting proof that vaping is safe when we know full well what the health risk are from smoking.
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