Intellicig EVOlution - The Next Generation.

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SuziQ

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guys, I know the evo is a supermini, but does it compare at all with the 901? I have several of those and they are good. I am thinking about battery-life (which has been covered and is better than the 901?) vapour and hit. I did have a supermini as my first ecig, but it was rubbish. I have an evo ordered and I cannot wait to try it for myself, but want to know what you think???
 

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guys, I know the evo is a supermini, but does it compare at all with the 901? I have several of those and they are good. I am thinking about battery-life (which has been covered and is better than the 901?) vapour and hit. I did have a supermini as my first ecig, but it was rubbish. I have an evo ordered and I cannot wait to try it for myself, but want to know what you think???

I've moved over to the EVO and it's cousin the Litecig M401 when I don't want to drag the SD around. It is really very very good, I used to use a 901 but I reckon the EVO beats it both on battery life and vapour production. I find the EVO 5 second cut off annoying at times, the Litecig is the same hardware but doesn't have the cutoff.

Either one is good, if your in the UK the Intellicig is probably a better bet, cheaper and faster service. The litecig is black and looks cool but you have to wait about a week for delivery.
 

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I am hoping to receive mine on Tuesday, depending on what goes on with Christmas postage times. I am quite excited and I am already thinking that if it is as good as people are saying, will I have time to order another one before I go on holiday, :)

This buying of ecigs really has to stop. I am not sure where the compulsion comes from. I suppose I, like others am looking for the ultimate ecig to fulfill all needs.
 

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I am hoping to receive mine on Tuesday, depending on what goes on with Christmas postage times. I am quite excited and I am already thinking that if it is as good as people are saying, will I have time to order another one before I go on holiday, :)

This buying of ecigs really has to stop. I am not sure where the compulsion comes from. I suppose I, like others am looking for the ultimate ecig to fulfill all needs.

That's the big problem with this e-cig game. You start with a very bad habit, try something apparently healthier, then end up with an obsessive hobby. And I thought I would save money.....
 

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Oh, I do so agree with you Pete and Suzi. Fortunately poverty keeps me from getting too daft about it, but I MUST stop following links to all the sites on here that look interesting! Even found myself yesterday staring at Sedansa's site mulling over 5 year guarantee...mmm. If I were to win the lottery next week there'd definitely be some happy suppliers around!

I have a couple of questions for John, hoping he's still keeping an eye on this thread. Just been back to his site checking to see if the black EVOs are in yet (Oh, I want one, I waaaaant one! - they aren't) and noticed that the EVO carts are only available in the tobacco and menthol variants.

There are three other flavours available for the Classic carts, fruity, Turkish and Havana - so my first question is: are you expecting to carry these flavours for the EVO and/or any other flavours as well?

Second question, based on the premise that the answer above is 'yes', have you considered extending the Trial Pack 5/£2.99 to different flavours rather than different strengths? Once I've got myself an EVO I can say I'd definitely be interested. Other returning customers might well be too - we all want to find flavours we like but without ending up with a heap of stuff we don't turn out to like. Once we've decided what sort of strength we like it is the next logical step.

Compliments of the season and best regards :D
 

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Well said Kate .... And i wouldnt trust anyone that comes on to the forum after such a short time being a member and trying to say his juice is the best going .... You and me and other long term members have seen this many times now ....Seems like some people just come on to this forum and try and make a quick few pounds the vanish ... And 2nd to that, their is NO WAY i would buy somthing from someone who looks like they spent the last 10yrs sleeping on a park bench ....Sorry Shining Wit ....But your profile pict looks like Dot Cotton..... Do you put that pict on your business cards lol lol.... Also we have seen other suppliers make the same claim about their juice and have been able to at least produce some sort of certifacate to back up at least some of their claims ...Not nesseserely all of them ...But at least its a start ... Im not being funny Shining Wit, but when did you start you juice testing and when will we see the results? .....Sorry mate ... I dont mean to sound harsh but we seen threads like this before.


Sure sounds like you've got a bit of a problem with my pic, would you complain if I used a photo showing my severe facial disfigurement? If you feel that you can't trust me following the independent reviews and comments from other members then that's cool, don't buy from someone you don't trust.
If I was a cynic I might suspect you are selling rival products, but even if that were true it's no problem in a free market. I'll just keep on keeping folk happy and the business takes care of itself, our sales figures, feedback and repeat customers tell me that we're doing things the right way.
I don't recollect ever claiming that the liquid in our cartridges (we don't sell it 'loose') was the best. I did question the view that if someone publishes a report it doesn't mean it's safe, as one member seemed to be of that opinion. The report clearly stated that certain changes to the compound and ingredients should be made, but the member seemed not to be concerned with that and seemed of the opinion that if it's tested it's okay. The report on our cartridges has been completed and the results were very good with far less ingredients than any other carts that we are aware of. Can you see it? No, not yet as it is commercially sensitive information due to the ingredients that we use - the carts are made to our specification. Try asking Coca-Cola for their recipe and see what they have to say. As for certificates, the only ones I have seen originate from China and are worthless, a bit like those degrees you can buy online. The same goes for some of their electrical equipment that has letters and numbers stating that it is compliant. I've seen one of their 'certified' chargers explode, literally. Needless to say we do not use products made by the company responsible.
Our company grew out of a much bigger mobility company that has been at the forefront of technological innovation in the mobility and conversion industry for 30 years. The company has been responsible for inventing, designing, building and testing numerous mobility aids from swivel seats to voice activated controls, all of which demand an extremely high level of reliability and safety. Intellicig also embodies those standards and aims to provide a reliable and safe product. Only long term testing will tell how safe e-cigs are, but as with countless number of things we eat, drink, consume, they will eventually be regulated.
We have already made substantially more than a few quick pounds and are here for the long term. We continue to invest in developing our products as we believe it is essential to ensure a sustainable future.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this thread and even spoke up for me and Intellicig, I've been so busy lately I haven't had time to check in.
The all black EVO is ready and should be despatched tomorrow for delivery late next week. We will also have the semi-disposable for Trade/bulk customers. Another option will be a shorter battery for the EVO. To pre-empt the question 'how come it costs more?', it's because we have tried to cram as much battery capacity as possible in a tiny space along with the microelectronics. It will only be a pound more than the standard EVO battery and still competitive with others on offer.
To all those who have bought an EVO or ordered one or will be ordering one, let me know who you are.
SuziQ, if you have ordered over the weekend it will be despatched tomorrow and you will have it before Christmas no problem, let me know who/where you are. You can email me on john 'at' intellicig.com or oldgitsuk 'at' dsl.pipex.com I don't use the @ symbol on here to avoid email address harvesters/spammers.

We will be extending our flavours as soon as possible. We could have them now but we want more control over quality and consistency. When they do materialise we will of course being offering trial packs. I appreciate the demand is there but we have built the company by trying to do things right first time and laying a firm foundation.
As a final note to anyone wondering whether to buy from me/Intellicig, look at the sellers who don't publish contact details and who make ambitious claims on their websites. We are open and honest and contactable, by email, by post or by telephone and I will spend time talking to anyone to ensure they are confident and happy buying from us. Ask any of the members on here who have called me, I could talk a glass eye to sleep!
God I need a drag now! Oh yes, topping up EVO carts is fine but they do absorb better and last longer if you leave then to stand for 10 minutes then add a few more drops and stand for half an hour on end with mouth hole downmost. Another quickie, when used heavily the carts might seem to dry up, but often they will respond to being rested for a while, after which they carry on producing vapour. From my days as a textile engineer I think this might have something to do with a process called moisture regain. I used to test yarn by weighing an exact length, drying it in a special cabinet, weighing it again, leaving it to stand in normal room temperature and humidity then weighing again. This test showed whether the supplier had sent the consignment damp to increase the weight. The dried yarn regained moisture from the atmosphere until it was back to normal. I think the carts might vapourise the water content quicker than the rest of the liquid causing the drying. When left the cart regains some water content.
Right, I'm off now, definitely.
Well almost.........found another unanswered question flicking through this thread. The company formed in August which is amazing considering how far we have come and the incredible rate at which we've grown. It's not my company in the ownership sense, I am just the poor sod who tries to keep the wheels oiled and be nice to people and 1001 other jobs! My card says 'Business Development', I call it good fun!:)
Cheers.
John.
 

PeteMcArthur

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Does anyone know how easy the carts are to top up and are any other carts compatible with the EVO. quite tempted too :) thanks guys

Carts are quite easy to top off, not as simple as a 901. There is an inner cart you can pop out with a paper clip and then top off. They drain better than a 901. Compatible with M401 carts.
 

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if it's comparable to a 901 performance but with better battery life , and typical atomizer lifespan is 6 months...(wtf) as stated on the website, and if Pete is happy with it in his apparent large collection ...I'm really quite tempted

It really is worth a try, how they get the battery life so good for such a tiny thing, I don't know. I've tried really hammering one, using it continually then recharging for about a week and it's still OK. Now a week is not a long term test but I did that with a 901 battery and there was a very noticeable drop in capacity.

It's not magic, battery life is better than a 901, around a pen style duration, no point quoting times as we all vary, I can empty a screwdriver in three hours if I really try:oops:
 

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The all black EVO is ready and should be despatched tomorrow for delivery late next week
Oohh...think that just sealed it. ill def have a black starter kit with the extra batt.
What's the price on the black kits gonna be John ? any idea..

John, i really would take what Rusty says with large pinch of salt. I seem to remember one of his first posts here where getting people to look at his you-tube vid about the super'mini' and how good it is at helping you quit real smokes, how it was only "water vapour" and you can give him a ring if you'de like to buy one from him..he learnt his lesson the hard way with some bashing on here but he took it well and he's got a better more experienced approach as to what e-cigs are now.. I had to have a giggle at rusty's initial post on this thread knowing how he found his feet on the forums...with a bump...he he

thanks for the heads up Pete..
 

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Oohh...think that just sealed it. ill def have a black starter kit with the extra batt.
What's the price on the black kits gonna be John ? any idea..

John, i really would take what Rusty says with large pinch of salt. I seem to remember one of his first posts here where getting people to look at his you-tube vid about the super'mini' and how good it is at helping you quit real smokes, how it was only "water vapour" and you can give him a ring if you'de like to buy one from him..he learnt his lesson the hard way with some bashing on here but he took it well and he's got a better more experienced approach as to what e-cigs are now.. I had to have a giggle at rusty's initial post on this thread knowing how he found his feet on the forums...with a bump...he he

thanks for the heads up Pete..

I'll be working out prices and kit options this week and will let you know - it shouldn't be more than £200 for your kit:p;) We'll be trying to keep prices reasonable but they did cost us more than standard.
As for Pete hammering the EVO batteries, you ain't even trying if you haven't managed to melt a cart yet!!!:evil:
John.
 

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Thanks ApOsTle51 for reminding how bad i was back in them days :cry: lol lol ..... And Shining ....Thanks for putting me in my place dude ....I guess i needed that boot up the ... for beeing a smart ... 8-o

You stilllook like DOT COTTON though lol lol lol
Sound like you do more for e-cigs than we relize .... I guess that was the problem !!! i didnt know much about you mate :oops:

Sure sounds like you've got a bit of a problem with my pic, would you complain if I used a photo showing my severe facial disfigurement? If you feel that you can't trust me following the independent reviews and comments from other members then that's cool, don't buy from someone you don't trust.
If I was a cynic I might suspect you are selling rival products, but even if that were true it's no problem in a free market. I'll just keep on keeping folk happy and the business takes care of itself, our sales figures, feedback and repeat customers tell me that we're doing things the right way.
I don't recollect ever claiming that the liquid in our cartridges (we don't sell it 'loose') was the best. I did question the view that if someone publishes a report it doesn't mean it's safe, as one member seemed to be of that opinion. The report clearly stated that certain changes to the compound and ingredients should be made, but the member seemed not to be concerned with that and seemed of the opinion that if it's tested it's okay. The report on our cartridges has been completed and the results were very good with far less ingredients than any other carts that we are aware of. Can you see it? No, not yet as it is commercially sensitive information due to the ingredients that we use - the carts are made to our specification. Try asking Coca-Cola for their recipe and see what they have to say. As for certificates, the only ones I have seen originate from China and are worthless, a bit like those degrees you can buy online. The same goes for some of their electrical equipment that has letters and numbers stating that it is compliant. I've seen one of their 'certified' chargers explode, literally. Needless to say we do not use products made by the company responsible.
Our company grew out of a much bigger mobility company that has been at the forefront of technological innovation in the mobility and conversion industry for 30 years. The company has been responsible for inventing, designing, building and testing numerous mobility aids from swivel seats to voice activated controls, all of which demand an extremely high level of reliability and safety. Intellicig also embodies those standards and aims to provide a reliable and safe product. Only long term testing will tell how safe e-cigs are, but as with countless number of things we eat, drink, consume, they will eventually be regulated.
We have already made substantially more than a few quick pounds and are here for the long term. We continue to invest in developing our products as we believe it is essential to ensure a sustainable future.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this thread and even spoke up for me and Intellicig, I've been so busy lately I haven't had time to check in.
The all black EVO is ready and should be despatched tomorrow for delivery late next week. We will also have the semi-disposable for Trade/bulk customers. Another option will be a shorter battery for the EVO. To pre-empt the question 'how come it costs more?', it's because we have tried to cram as much battery capacity as possible in a tiny space along with the microelectronics. It will only be a pound more than the standard EVO battery and still competitive with others on offer.
To all those who have bought an EVO or ordered one or will be ordering one, let me know who you are.
SuziQ, if you have ordered over the weekend it will be despatched tomorrow and you will have it before Christmas no problem, let me know who/where you are. You can email me on john 'at' intellicig.com or oldgitsuk 'at' dsl.pipex.com I don't use the @ symbol on here to avoid email address harvesters/spammers.

We will be extending our flavours as soon as possible. We could have them now but we want more control over quality and consistency. When they do materialise we will of course being offering trial packs. I appreciate the demand is there but we have built the company by trying to do things right first time and laying a firm foundation.
As a final note to anyone wondering whether to buy from me/Intellicig, look at the sellers who don't publish contact details and who make ambitious claims on their websites. We are open and honest and contactable, by email, by post or by telephone and I will spend time talking to anyone to ensure they are confident and happy buying from us. Ask any of the members on here who have called me, I could talk a glass eye to sleep!
God I need a drag now! Oh yes, topping up EVO carts is fine but they do absorb better and last longer if you leave then to stand for 10 minutes then add a few more drops and stand for half an hour on end with mouth hole downmost. Another quickie, when used heavily the carts might seem to dry up, but often they will respond to being rested for a while, after which they carry on producing vapour. From my days as a textile engineer I think this might have something to do with a process called moisture regain. I used to test yarn by weighing an exact length, drying it in a special cabinet, weighing it again, leaving it to stand in normal room temperature and humidity then weighing again. This test showed whether the supplier had sent the consignment damp to increase the weight. The dried yarn regained moisture from the atmosphere until it was back to normal. I think the carts might vapourise the water content quicker than the rest of the liquid causing the drying. When left the cart regains some water content.
Right, I'm off now, definitely.
Well almost.........found another unanswered question flicking through this thread. The company formed in August which is amazing considering how far we have come and the incredible rate at which we've grown. It's not my company in the ownership sense, I am just the poor sod who tries to keep the wheels oiled and be nice to people and 1001 other jobs! My card says 'Business Development', I call it good fun!:)
Cheers.
John.
 

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Carts are quite easy to top off, not as simple as a 901. There is an inner cart you can pop out with a paper clip and then top off. They drain better than a 901. Compatible with M401 carts.

Pete, how do you get the filler back into the cartridge?? Having seen badseed's pic, they seem very small.
 

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Oh, this thread is a joy - but isn't it getting long? I keep getting a bit lost and puzzled why there are things posted today popping up in the middle of bits dated end of November. I've just read it through again from scratch and found bits I'd missed before. Anyone know why that happens? I have noticed it elsewhere in the forum too. :confused: This is the only forum I've ever joined so little experience of things other people probably think of as 'forum 101'.

Freddo, go back and read the whole thread - there's stuff about refilling the EVO carts back nearer the beginning. ;)

Suzi, I use a pair of long thin tweezers for replacing 'wool' into my 901 carts, works like a charm. They are narrower than my eyebrow tweezers - haven't actually tried with them but think it should work. :D We girls always make do with the tools to hand - eyebrow tweezers make great small screwdrivers when I can't be a*sed to look out the toolbox.

Rusty, consider my hat doffed in admiration - I'm always truly impressed by a man who has the cojones to stand up and admit 'I may have cocked up'. Gotta admit, I'm probably going to look you up for these early posts Apo mentioned...:evil: just for the craik, y'unnerstan?

Memo to self - remember people could do this to you too, don't get on a horse TOO tall when you're feeling like a venting some spleen/having a soapbox session...

John, thanks for keeping us updated about the black EVO - <desire>.
But... spotted a bit about another member's tests - think you should perhaps retract the comment about getting stuff tested then not caring or doing anything about the results. I'm sure I've seen something elsewhere about the stuff in it which shouldn't have been there and his taking it up with his manufacturer and getting it sorted out; changes WERE made. Also something about his having to write off a whole batch of menthol which had something else in it that it shouldn't have. I'm fairly certain he's another who fully intends to be in this for the long haul - read about his efforts to meet requirements of CHIP, REACH and Trading Standards - who came along at his own request!!

Actually I think all we members here are amazingly fortunate in being able to communicate with the suppliers like this in the development stages of this technology. I imagine (and hope) that the suppliers themselves also regard it as a really useful feedback tool. No need to go hiring those daft marketing firms to poll consumer reactions! :thumb:

Oh, I'm glad I found this forum - it is such a great combination of information and entertainment. Can't keep spending so much time on it tho'!

Love and peace to all - happy solstice next weekend
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