Interesting

[ckim111]

This article at first which I thought was just bs cites a key finding from Dr Farsalinos whom many people funded through the crowd funding site to perform tests on ecigs and eliquids. Basically the key finding is that even high powered advanced devices give off negligible amounts of nicotine and nowhere near the amount you would get from a traditional cig. So in other words they say that all this smoking cessation is just placebo. Check it out:

http://kronstantinople.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-great-white-hoax-e-cigarettes-are.html

 

[pcrdude]

This article at first which I thought was just bs cites a key finding from Dr Farsalinos whom many people funded through the crowd funding site to perform tests on ecigs and eliquids. Basically the key finding is that even high powered advanced devices give off negligible amounts of nicotine and nowhere near the amount you would get from a traditional cig. So in other words they say that all this smoking cessation is just placebo. Check it out:

http://kronstantinople.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-great-white-hoax-e-cigarettes-are.html

But, if I vape too much I can feel the effects of nicotine....

I MUST be getting some, right?

 

[Recycled Roadkill]

So in other words they say that all this smoking cessation is just placebo.

If that's the case it's a placebo that works very well.

 

[AegisPrime]

That article is a mess so I apologize for quickly scanning it.

Dr. K (and others?) has found that e-cigs are far less efficient at delivering nicotine than cigarettes - somewhere in the region of only 30%-40% of the nicotine is actually delivered - this may be higher on 3rd generation devices.

But I'd have thought that was obvious - why do you think we vape more than we smoked?

It's certainly not a placebo though - just nowhere near as effective as smoking (that's also why some vapers need higher strength e-liquids than 20mg to quit).

 

[Anjaffm]

Yes, the nicotine absorption is definitely lower than with tobacco cigarettes.
The blog writer is probably referring to this study here by Dr. Farsalinos:

Nicotine absorption from electronic cigarette use: comparison between first and new generation devices

(short summary. Link to the actual study at the bottom).

 

[ckim111]

Thanks anjaffm for the link. I guess in order to get the same amount of nicotine as you would from a traditional cig, it says we would need 50mg eliquids. Which begs the question.. Why are the highest that are offered by vendors usually at 24mg?

 

[Sucker_dad]

Thanks anjaffm for the link. I guess in order to get the same amount of nicotine as you would from a traditional cig, it says we would need 50mg eliquids. Which begs the question.. Why are the highest that are offered by vendors usually at 24mg?

That one's easy. You'll make yourself sick on higher nic liquids. I know I did it on 24 mg and I was a little queesy. I built my first dual dub ohm and made myself straight up violently ill. So if it's a placebo, it's a damn good one.

 

[skoony]

i think when it all comes out in the wash it will 6 of one and a half a dozen of the other.
you dont need as big a hit on a analog to get that throat hit.
i know i vape longer and deeper on my pv than i did on the burl menthols.
as with vaping,the smoking style of the analog user varies too.
varying styles would affect the % of nicotine that gets into the blood vaping or analog.
it would be interesting to check the nic levels of a smoker and than compare them
after the smoker switched to vaping once he found the nic level in his juice he liked.
i would not be surprised if the levels were pretty darn close.

regards
mike

 

[beckdg]

i dunno. i vape 36mg/ml on a reo. basically dripping the easy way with high nic day in and day out. when other folks take a few vapes from my gear, it's not long before they're nic sick. i'd say it's pretty effective. with my nic tolerance i wouldn't have been able to quit otherwise.

though, i do recognize the delivery method may be less efficient than being carried by combustible carcinogens laced with addictive binders.