Interview With Dr. Michael Eriksen From Georgia State

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Not bad, but I think some things he says are off the wall.

Whatever we can do to the point of banning smoking. It’s so bad and so harmful that it should be taxed to the sky. It should not be allowed anywhere in public. It shouldn’t be advertised anywhere.

I would venture to say that in 10 years there will be no combusted cigarettes in this country. It will all be e-cigarettes, oral tobacco, nicotine patches, water and suppositories.
Suppositories? What? Uh, noooooo!

The tobacco companies have been coming up with ways of delivering nicotine to the brain without smoke. The biggest thing is called electronic cigarettes, or e-cigarettes. They’re plastic cylinders that have a nicotine capsule in it and use a battery to heat the capsule.
Okey dokey - so he thinks BT came up with the ecig and they're made with capsules? Not too much ecig research there, huh doc?

In many ways, the whole issue of second-hand smoke in 10 years is going to be kind of a moot issue because fewer people are going to be actually burning tobacco to get nicotine through smoke. They’re going to be using e-cigarettes, candies or water.
Glad he didn't say suppositories again. Hey, where can I get nicotine water? Black cherry please, hold the ice.
 

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Wasn't Georgia University one of the "chosen ones" who gets FDA, actually taxpayers, millions for regulatory research? I remember Georgia, but not who in Georgia.
I hope this guy is on the up and up, and does some much needed research to catch up.

even his 2nd hand smoke comments leads me to believe he is a sucker for propaganda. I dunno....
 

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Wasn't Georgia University one of the "chosen ones" who gets FDA, actually taxpayers, millions for regulatory research? I remember Georgia, but not who in Georgia.
I hope this guy is on the up and up, and does some much needed research to catch up.

even his 2nd hand smoke comments leads me to believe he is a sucker for propaganda. I dunno....

Tobacco Centers of Regulatory Science, TCORS. GSU is getting $19 million over 5 years and I was just glad to see him separate smoke from nicotine as that is half the battle when attempting to get someone to understand harm reduction.

ETA link to TCORS Centers Research Portfolio
 
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$19 million over 5 years !!

What we could do with 1 million ...
but who's going to trust the most knowledge people on the subject ??!!
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I really need to get a grant to get in on these so called "studies." I would love to get paid 19$ mil, id come up with all kinds of conclusions for that kind of money. When its done ill buy me a couple blonds, a bachelor pad on beachfront property, and live happily ever after.

These researchers really don't make a lot of money off a big grant. They usually get the typical salary paid for by the government instead of their institution is all. In fact, they can make more money not having a grant than having one since there are tight restrictions on extra money you can bring in while taking government money. What they do get is a chance to determine how that money is spent, and to keep their lab running. I suppose it must stroke their egos though, like working in government does for a politician.
 

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Not bad, but I think some things he says are off the wall.




Suppositories? What? Uh, noooooo!
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I thought they had got it that e cigs worked in part because we still had something in our hand and the hand to mouth thing...... Oh yes suppositories will really replace that.... I don't think.
 

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I agree it's encouraging that Eriksen makes the distinction between tobacco and ecigs, between smoke and vapor, but what I take away from this article is that he definitely sees himself as a soldier (general, probably) in the war on tobacco and tobacco companies.

Most smokers want to quit, but can’t or haven’t. Why has it taken 50 years to achieve progress and why are there still tens of millions of users in this country? The answer is there is an industry that makes money at the expense of other people’s health. It’s a very profitable industry, not only here, but globally.

Yes, but it's not the tobacco companies, as he implies; it's the pharmaceutical companies, making billions selling their ineffective quit-smoking products and raking in billions with their cancer-treatment drugs.

In many ways, the whole issue of second-hand smoke in 10 years is going to be kind of a moot issue because fewer people are going to be actually burning tobacco to get nicotine through smoke.

And here we have it, a TCORS scientist states unequivocally that e-cigs do not produce secondhand smoke. Bookmark this and keep it in your files, kiddies, with attribution and url. Perhaps we should alert FDA to this important announcement...?

And on a totally irreverant note, we now have two additions to the ciggy lexicon:

Patches = sticky cigs
Gum = chewy cigs
Lozenges = sucky cigs
Water = drinky cigs
Suppositories = (up yer) butty cigs
 

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Reading the interview, his stance is that taxes should be as high as the sky, all ads should be banned, tobacco should be banned, tobacco companies come up with lower risk products that should be banned, ... Nahhhhh, I don't like this guy at all, and he's just setting it up to look like an angel when his grant money finds a "maybe, might, could," that could possibly ban even the ecig which the tobacco companies have come out with. I think he's Glantzs evil twin, on the east coast. That's my opinion, and heaven help anybody who tries to change my opinion, just ask hubby.

1. Ban all tobacco & safer alternatives.
2. Promote and advertise all big Pharma drugs and paraphernalia. Monopolize.
3. Start them young. Attract the toddlers to Nicotine via delicious, fun and colorful packaging on Nicorette gum... Mommy won't notice just one is missing...
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4. Keep them going throughout their life, advertise smoking by beating it to death, make the rebellious teens crave a rebellion, get hooked. Feed them on chantix, nic gum, patches, stress relief pills like Xanax throughout the rest of their adulthood.
5. Promote, advertise on tv, magazines, billboards, big Pharma products, quack doctors at universities, are your savior.
6. Promote highly addictive xanex and ambien in aarp elderly mags, and then the pills to take to get off xanex and ambien...
Xanax and Ambien Side Effects - Drug Withdrawal, Memory Loss, Dementia - AARP
7. Hush Who's big Pharma companies, I believe there are at least 3 they own now.
8. Bully, ban, sue anybody who dares to argue with the big Pharma take over.

We need to petition to get these quacks out of our lives, out of our homes.
Here's one that needed revision. But it's an idea on how to get it going. http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-pharmaceutical-companies-from-advertising-on-television

Anybody read Joe Jackson's essay? Eye opening. http://www.joejackson.com/pdf/5smokingpdf_jj_smoke_lies.pdf
Anybody read ironfist journal? How the epidiologists ignore the 95% safe figures and instead tear apart and rip into the remaining 5% and then make a fear mongering case out of it? Yeh. 95% safe... Boy, that's not what's been preached is it. (2nd hand smoke). http://www.velvetgloveironfist.com/index.php?page_id=64

They rally the Hitler army so well, that they even kick the elderly from their homes... You know, the ones who can't afford both the patch and the gum and their smokes. Out. Into the streets,. Banned from every home because every home is now Hitler ran.
You can't even have a wisp of smoke rise from your own backyard without a Hitler army zealot turning you in to the cops, in some countries, coming soon to a town you're in.
You can't even have an ashtray collection in NY!

I am furious that we, the land of the free, fall for this kind of takeover.

Ps. Half the elderly problems, like focus, Alzheimer's, stress related diseases, could have been prevented in the first place just by allowing them to smoke or better yet, vape. But they want to take that away too.
 
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The Joe Jackson piece was brilliant! I've always loved his music, going back to the late 70s, but I have new-found respect for him and his writing and research skills. Wonderful read...so much so it was the first time in months I really wanted to have a cigarette, just to celebrate the moment. I didn't however...did go through a lot more liquid that night, however. The picture inside the vinyl record of Day and Night is a studio shot, and there are filled ashtrays and smoke everywhere.
 

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The Joe Jackson piece was brilliant! I've always loved his music, going back to the late 70s, but I have new-found respect for him and his writing and research skills. Wonderful read...so much so it was the first time in months I really wanted to have a cigarette, just to celebrate the moment. I didn't however...did go through a lot more liquid that night, however. The picture inside the vinyl record of Day and Night is a studio shot, and there are filled ashtrays and smoke everywhere.
I know right. He answered every question and inkling I had over the years.
Here is where it can be found, his albums too.
Joe Jackson Official Site
 
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