Being here in the US, 13mm will be low demand. If you plan to ship international, they will fly off the shelf. However, I think you would sell a ton of them @ 18mm though. That would put the internal somewhere in the 15mm range. You can fit up to a 3-3.5mm coil inside that. I run 2.5mm in my Origen Little 16's and have room to go larger if I wanted to. The AFC is what you really need to pay special attention to IMO...
Introducing... my bottom feeding mod (MyMod)
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I've always kinda been on the lookout for an 18mm atty.
(you know - nice fit on a Reo grand "deck"...)
Since you're considering two options, you should know that there have been a couple approaches to that concept - using one "deck". Some atties have come with an optional "slam cap" - basically a shortened top cap intended to reduce the size of the chamber. And some have come with an insert - to take up space inside the chamber, sometimes blocking off an entire side for single-coil users.
I think you might get real creative with an atty that had two different style caps.
And yes - you'll get a dozen different opinions about the best way to do air intake and airflow control - and I don't think there IS a "best" way for everyone...
The fact is though - there's only a few atomizers designed for bottom-feeding, and most of them are European, small diameter, and tight draw. You make a great squonk atty at 18, 20, or 22, with good airflow, and you could sell them.
Think of all those people buying the Kanger Dripbox! That atty sucks - people are buying the device, liking the squonk, and looking around for a better atty!
(you know - nice fit on a Reo grand "deck"...)
Since you're considering two options, you should know that there have been a couple approaches to that concept - using one "deck". Some atties have come with an optional "slam cap" - basically a shortened top cap intended to reduce the size of the chamber. And some have come with an insert - to take up space inside the chamber, sometimes blocking off an entire side for single-coil users.
I think you might get real creative with an atty that had two different style caps.
And yes - you'll get a dozen different opinions about the best way to do air intake and airflow control - and I don't think there IS a "best" way for everyone...
The fact is though - there's only a few atomizers designed for bottom-feeding, and most of them are European, small diameter, and tight draw. You make a great squonk atty at 18, 20, or 22, with good airflow, and you could sell them.
Think of all those people buying the Kanger Dripbox! That atty sucks - people are buying the device, liking the squonk, and looking around for a better atty!
I'm curious why 13mm are not popular in the US.
So enough room to fit two 4mm diameter coil would be sufficient for most ppl?
How does the atty suck?Think of all those people buying the Kanger Dripbox! That atty sucks - people are buying the device, liking the squonk, and looking around for a better atty!
Plenty big enough. I use 3mm on my sub ohm tanks and 2.5 - 3mm on dripper atties. 13mm atties would be way too small to build on in my opinion. You'd probably have to resort back to microcoils. Might be OK for those who really like small stuff, tight air and single coil.
From what I've read about them, they placed the air in a terrible location to where it is basically blowing over the tops of the coils. I could be wrong, but I was looking into getting one of the Kanger drip boxes at one time. Now I'm getting the upgraded one, the 160 drip box, but I believe it still uses the same lousy atty. I have one ready for it though.
I already have my 160 same crap atty. The air flow is terrible just not well made. The 160 itself so far seems pretty good haven't had much time with it but so far so good.
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Honestly, I didn't even try it, so this is from looking at it:
1 - too tall. Like really really tall. Just wasted space above the coils.
2 - airholes way up there, so as mentioned, air not directed anywhere, just big high holes...
3 - proprietary top/tip, so you're stuck with a big bore
4 - scrawny lookin' 2-post. Kind of stuck with thin gauge duals - not far apart enough for a "z-coil" single approach, too danged big and empty for a single, and probably post-holes too thin for people who want to do fancy builds or thick gauges, etc.
1 - too tall. Like really really tall. Just wasted space above the coils.
2 - airholes way up there, so as mentioned, air not directed anywhere, just big high holes...
3 - proprietary top/tip, so you're stuck with a big bore
4 - scrawny lookin' 2-post. Kind of stuck with thin gauge duals - not far apart enough for a "z-coil" single approach, too danged big and empty for a single, and probably post-holes too thin for people who want to do fancy builds or thick gauges, etc.
You already got yours? I've been waiting on preorder for some time and still haven't heard anything yet.
Yeah I still have one on preorder too but seen mvs had them so grabbed one from them and got it yesterday.
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A "generalization" would be in the US its all about cloudz and internationally it is about flavor... The only 13mm atty's, (or there abouts), that have been popular here in the US are the Chalice, Cyclone, Era, Hornet, and Divo. I'm not positive, but I don't think any of them are in production anymore... Most of the Hellfire and No Name atty lines are 14mm and are designed for most of the Italian or European designed squonkers. They have in the last year been designing adapters for the 22mm people which is nice, but the devices are designed with 14mm atty's first.
I don't think there are many people out there that are vaping dual 4mm coils... I would venture to say the "standard" nowadays would be more in the 2.5mm area.
I guess I'll get ahold of Breazy and see what's up.
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I've been wrapping 3mm coils. Til I picked up an Origen Little 16mm atty - I stepped back to 2.5 for that.
But I vape mechanical, and like insta-heat, so I don't need to stick a fused stapled elevator clapton in there (no, that's not a real thing). But on regulated devices, people want room for big coils! I don't think many people go over 4mm, but they want a big post hole for those twisty things.
But I vape mechanical, and like insta-heat, so I don't need to stick a fused stapled elevator clapton in there (no, that's not a real thing). But on regulated devices, people want room for big coils! I don't think many people go over 4mm, but they want a big post hole for those twisty things.
but they want a big post hole for those twisty things.
How big of a post hole is enough? (in mm)
Also, people likes dedicated holes for each coil right? That's easier to build on. Obviously, you need bigger holes if two coils are sharing one hole as opposed to dedicated holes. Please take that into account when answering. Thanks
That's where my pre order is as well and for the silver I know it's going to be another week. Most stores will have them tomorrow MVS usually has them a Lil faster than most.
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That's pretty big. So even if I design 4 holes where each coil has their own pair of holes, I would want to make it 2.5mm?
BTW, what would be an ideal distance between the posts?
Everyone else feel free to chime in too.
That's what I'm thinking of doing.
I want to decide on the size first. I think I will do a 13mm and 16mm one. The 13mm has a special meaning to me as that's what I vape. I thought about doing 15mm but it just doesn't seem that different from 13. What do you guys think? Once I get the diameter (inner diameter) settled, then we can discuss posts and AFCs (for each).
They will be of similar design, so it's just a factor of scaling. I just want to try out this unique design I've been thinking of. I really appreciate the insightful comments. It can lead to a better product.
Thanks
-Regarding the Mymod, the 510s will be shipped tomorrow to me and will get here next week and I will finish the rest of the assembly this weekend.
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