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It's mostly a matter of capability. The ipv d2 looks it will be fine for things like running manufacturer's coils or for running simple single coil builds. If someone is interested in doing something more complex though, the SXM has more features that will help them get the most out of their builds. Also, firmware upgradeability isn't something to scoff at. ;)
 
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If someone is interested in doing something more complex though, the SXM has more features that will help them get the most out of their builds. Also, firmware upgradeability isn't something to scoff at. ;)

Firmware upgradeability is the significant advantage. What other features does it have for more "complex" builds?
 

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Seriously tired of some of the posters knocking the M Class and the price. You can get the M Class anywhere from $140 to $179 with a coupon code. It's the best $200 I have ever spent. It is a solid device and has arguably the best chip in it with the SX350J. If someone can't afford the mod I understand, but don't use the I'm not gonna drop $200 to justify that a IPV4, IPV D2, Snow Wolf or whatever is even close to what the Mini is because it isn't. I have owned all these under $100 Temp devices and it's not even close, the M Class schits all over the IPV. You want a quality mod that has great materials, build quality, the best chip, then get a M Class. You want a cheap beater mod that does temp control has a lot less features and costs less get a IPV. Actually get a IPV about every other month since this company can't get a mod right out the door and have to keep updating the box. I am just sick of people thinking these cheap a** mods can compare to a $200 mod. Once again I understand being on a budget and I know not everyone has $140 to $200 to drop on a mod but if you save up and don't waste money on the cheap mods you could have a Mini M and be happy and not care about the others. Oter then $200 the SX Mini has all the modes Soft, ECO, Standard etc, Bypass mode for mech, the SX actually remembers the slots for memory, IPV yet to be determined(IPV4 couldn't remember settings in Joules mode) gravity sensor, screen auto rotates, real time temp control (IPV only shows voltage changing) doesn't look or feel cheap. Yihi makes both chips but no way Yihi every gives someone like IPV, sigelei etc the upperhand on them when Yihi makes their own box mod
 

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I personally never said anything bad about the SX. What I did do was question the "advantages" it has over the IPV D2, every time someone compares them. It's important to me for example that the D2 is much smaller and lighter than the SX. Unless, you can claim that the SX produces a better vape, then things like real time monitoring and screen rotation is irrelevant to me. And while the price is a major plus for the D2, it's not the most important thing; this is coming from a Dicodes user (more expensive than the SX).
 
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I personally never said anything bad about the SX. What I did do was question the "advantages" it has over the IPV D2, every time someone compares them. It's important to me for example that the D2 is much smaller and lighter than the SX. Unless, you can claim that the SX produces a better vape, then things like real time monitoring and screen rotation is irrelevant to me. And while the price is a major plus for the D2, it's not the most important thing; this is coming from a Dicodes user (more expensive than the SX).
I wasn't referring to you per say...I see a ton of posts and threads trying to compare all these under $100 mods to the SX Mini. I am just tired of people trying to justify these cheap mods over a more expensive one. I have a Dicdoes as well and it is a great mod. It's probably my second favorite. I don't have any DNA mods because everyone I had crapped out and glitched so Evolv doesn't get any of my money. I can't put science or math to claim the SX Mini vapes better but from using the SX Mini, IPV4, Sigelei, Evic, Dicodes, etc I feel my SX Mini and Dicodes give a better more consistent vape then the others.
 

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Seriously tired of some of the posters knocking the M Class and the price. You can get the M Class anywhere from $140 to $179 with a coupon code. It's the best $200 I have ever spent. It is a solid device and has arguably the best chip in it with the SX350J. If someone can't afford the mod I understand, but don't use the I'm not gonna drop $200 to justify that a IPV4, IPV D2, Snow Wolf or whatever is even close to what the Mini is because it isn't. I have owned all these under $100 Temp devices and it's not even close, the M Class schits all over the IPV. You want a quality mod that has great materials, build quality, the best chip, then get a M Class. You want a cheap beater mod that does temp control has a lot less features and costs less get a IPV. Actually get a IPV about every other month since this company can't get a mod right out the door and have to keep updating the box. I am just sick of people thinking these cheap a** mods can compare to a $200 mod. Once again I understand being on a budget and I know not everyone has $140 to $200 to drop on a mod but if you save up and don't waste money on the cheap mods you could have a Mini M and be happy and not care about the others. Oter then $200 the SX Mini has all the modes Soft, ECO, Standard etc, Bypass mode for mech, the SX actually remembers the slots for memory, IPV yet to be determined(IPV4 couldn't remember settings in Joules mode) gravity sensor, screen auto rotates, real time temp control (IPV only shows voltage changing) doesn't look or feel cheap. Yihi makes both chips but no way Yihi every gives someone like IPV, Sigelei etc the upperhand on them when Yihi makes their own box mod

Pioneer4you is owned by Sigelei. One of the owners of Sigelei owns Yihi. All of the boards in both Sigelei and Pioneer4you products are designed and manufactured by Yihi.
 

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Like I said I am gonna pick up a D2 for the small and light factor as well but to me I like a device that feels solid and heft in my hand not a device that probably can't take a beating. The advantages the SX Mini has is the Memory Settings, The Power Settings (Soft, Standard, Eco, Powerful, Powerful+) the bypass mode which I think can fire to 85 watts, You can get the ugly extension tube to make it dual 18650 (Battle Axe Mode since it looks like a Axe) Firmware upgrades
 

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Pioneer4you is owned by Sigelei. One of the owners of Sigelei owns Yihi. All of the boards in both Sigelei and Pioneer4you products are designed and manufactured by Yihi.
I know all of that but here is a question, That being the case...why does Yihi (SX Mini) have the premium chip and the other not so much? As other posters, members or reviewers have said Sigelei is claiming they make their own chip now.
 

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I've beat the crap out of my IPV Mini. I plan on doing the same to the IPV D2.

Being a military guy, certain items get a bigger budget than others. I'll spend $180-200 on a good pair of boots, but my watch is a timex and my "work phone" (not issued, just the one for work) doesn't have a touch screen and folds in half.

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I know all of that but here is a question, That being the case...why does Yihi (SX Mini) have the premium chip and the other not so much? As other posters, members or reviewers have said Sigelei is claiming they make their own chip now.

The answer to your question lies with Yihi, Sigelei, and P4U. Ask them.
 

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I also suspect that the IP d2 will use pwm/boost, rather than buck/boost on power mode, but we'll have to wait and see on the reviews. The IPV d2 may also not be as efficient with the battery, but without a Joules count that will be hard to determine. Even so, with a good 18650 it should last a good while, maybe just not as long as an SXM in Eco mode.
 

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Pioneer4you is owned by Sigelei. One of the owners of Sigelei owns Yihi. All of the boards in both Sigelei and Pioneer4you products are designed and manufactured by Yihi.

I've heard this, but I don't know that I believe it. Can you provide proof?

Yihi hasn't let either use their sx350 boards.

Sigelei tends not to release their mods until they are satisfied they have them right, while P4U most certainly has released mods that had serious issues.

Sigelei's mods have a durable finish while P4U's tend to scratch and flake very easily.

They don't use the same 510 connectors or battery contacts either.

I suspect that is internet folklore ??
 

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Ehh, i've either had or tried pretty much every TC device out there, and the SX Mini is a noticeably better vape then all of them. Especially if/when you prefer to go over the 400 degree mark (which i do), where others seem to struggle with actually reaching the target temp.

I had a friend who vapes strictly Kanthal basically tell me something along the same lines the other day. 30w is 30w, so why spend anymore then the $20 it costs to buy his Kbox. Let him hit his dripper on both that, then my Sx immediately after. Again, there's a difference.

That's without even going into the difference in build quality (being an IPV, i have no illusions the D2 i have coming is going to still be kicking strong as ever a year from now), or additional chip features i don't really utilize that much but others might.

The Eco mode is pretty win too.
Well in my case the price plays no part because my $50 Kangxin Mini VF hits harder than my $190 VS rDNA. This is true for power mode as well as TC mode. The ramp up is better/faster on the Kangxin and no it's not overpowered.
 
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I've heard this, but I don't know that I believe it. Can you provide proof?

..............

I suspect that is internet folklore ??

Yes, you can read anything on the internet or in forums and question the validity. Here is one "piece of the puzzle" to get you started on the your path to validity or folklore. (pay special attention to the overwhelming use of exact wording with only a few modifications, paragraph structure, and sentence structure)..... the following you can read on P4U and Sigelei's web page ... (both companies have a copyright notice with all rights reserved):

P4U

IPV Technology Co.,Ltd is a technology integration company which specializes in vape mod research, production, development, sales, and service. Since our establishment, we focus on numeral products to develop vapormod.
Our management policy is to design and produce the most suitable and innovative products for our customers. For years, we have all along carried out the customer supreme principle, taken the technical support as a basis, wholeheartedly provided the advanced technical products and the high quality services to our all customers.

By good quality and reasonable price, timely supply, excellence quality the company provides cost-effective products to our customers over the years. Companies have been set up the net sale and service points around China. With the excellent product quality our products have been exported to United States, Canada, Mexico, France, Germany, England, Spain, Poland and other international market.

We have high standard quality management system and modernized work environment, which is equipped with advanced electronic devices. The key point of our product is to supply a health environment to people and Make a good future to the human.

Indicates information has been verified onsite by a certification specialist


Sigelei

SIGELEI Technology Co.,Ltd is a technology integration company which specializes in electronic cigarette research, production, development, sales, and service. Since our establishment, we focus on numeral products to develop electronic cigarette.
Our management policy is to design and produce the most suitable and innovative products for our customers. For years, we have all along carried out the customer supreme principle, taken the technical support as a basis, wholeheartedly provided the advanced technical products and the high quality services to our all customers.

By good quality and reasonable price, timely supply, excellence quality the company provides cost-effective products to our customers over the years. Companies have been set up the net sale and service points around China. With the excellent product quality our products have been exported to United States, Canada, Mexico, France, Germany, England, Spain, Poland and other international market.

We have high standard quality management system and modernized work environment, which is equipped with advanced electronic devices. The key point of our product is to supply a health environment to people and Make a good future to the human.

Indicates information has been verified onsite by a certification specialist
 
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Yes, you can read anything on the internet or in forums and question the validity. Here is one "piece of the puzzle" to get you started on the your path to validity or folklore. (pay special attention to the overwhelming use of exact wording with only a few modifications, paragraph structure, and sentence structure)..... the following you can read on P4U and Sigelei's web page ... (both companies have a copyright notice with all rights reserved):

P4U

IPV Technology Co.,Ltd is a technology integration company which specializes in vape mod research, production, development, sales, and service. Since our establishment, we focus on numeral products to develop vapormod.
Our management policy is to design and produce the most suitable and innovative products for our customers. For years, we have all along carried out the customer supreme principle, taken the technical support as a basis, wholeheartedly provided the advanced technical products and the high quality services to our all customers.

By good quality and reasonable price, timely supply, excellence quality the company provides cost-effective products to our customers over the years. Companies have been set up the net sale and service points around China. With the excellent product quality our products have been exported to United States, Canada, Mexico, France, Germany, England, Spain, Poland and other international market.

We have high standard quality management system and modernized work environment, which is equipped with advanced electronic devices. The key point of our product is to supply a health environment to people and Make a good future to the human.

Indicates information has been verified onsite by a certification specialist


Sigelei

SIGELEI Technology Co.,Ltd is a technology integration company which specializes in electronic cigarette research, production, development, sales, and service. Since our establishment, we focus on numeral products to develop electronic cigarette.
Our management policy is to design and produce the most suitable and innovative products for our customers. For years, we have all along carried out the customer supreme principle, taken the technical support as a basis, wholeheartedly provided the advanced technical products and the high quality services to our all customers.

By good quality and reasonable price, timely supply, excellence quality the company provides cost-effective products to our customers over the years. Companies have been set up the net sale and service points around China. With the excellent product quality our products have been exported to United States, Canada, Mexico, France, Germany, England, Spain, Poland and other international market.

We have high standard quality management system and modernized work environment, which is equipped with advanced electronic devices. The key point of our product is to supply a health environment to people and Make a good future to the human.

Indicates information has been verified onsite by a certification specialist

Ok, but we are talking about the Chinese here. The masters of copying. They copy texts and photos off the original modders sites for their clones. So that still doesn't seem like irrefutable proof (to me). But, I'm not easily convinced by much :D

And yes, there is that other thing I find suspicious...Sigelei is using many inhouse chips now instead of Yihi chips.
 

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while P4U most certainly has released mods that had serious issues.
In USB charging, as have other Mod makers. Perhaps one reason they have gone to a more bullet proof charging system.

The device Does come with its charging cable - D2 Barrel connector to USB connection.

For those attempting to compare IPV D2 to SX Mini
Production Volume = exponentially increased possibility of assembly defects
Cost value = minimum investment in materials/design/Build

We already have a Review with concern of resistance fluctuation.
Some TC devices are jumping out of TC mode - A bad thing with NI200

Much more goes into building a quality product than looks and initial function.
Reliability and longevity are important factors to consider.

I like the design and size of the D2, but I also realize it is built with lesser quality materials, has a lower line chipset(still above most), is more limited in control and function and is a price point device.

Just as nothing in the $50 class VV Mods has been able to touch the Provari, nothing in the $50 TC class is liable to match the SX Mini

Eventually new advancements will reach us, but the best will still cost the most and the Price point mods will attempt to offer a dumbed down version.

I use Both so don't bother attempting to correct me.;)

And yes, there is that other thing I find suspicious...Sigelei is using many inhouse chips now instead of Yihi chips.
China - Perhaps tis' cheaper to clone your own:D
 
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Ok, but we are talking about the Chinese here. The masters of copying. They copy texts and photos off the original modders sites for their clones. So that still doesn't seem like irrefutable proof (to me). But, I'm not easily convinced by much :D

And yes, there is that other thing I find suspicious...Sigelei is using many inhouse chips now instead of Yihi chips.

Yep, I've seen posts too that say Sigelei has inhouse chips but I've found no proof of that.
 
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