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I'm new to regulated devices, please explain the step down function for me and whether or not it's something I'm going to wish I had.

step down, or buck is the ability regulate below the batteries current voltage i believe.

Additional clarification... Ability to go below the battery's nominal voltage allows you to regulate power at low resistances. If you're stuck at the battery's output 3.8-4.2V) and use a very low resistance coil, you loose the ability to lower your power output. So for instance, on a 0.4 ohm coil at 4.2V, the minimum you can achieve is around 44W. Hope that helps.
 
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Ok, so this mod fires at 4.2V on a fresh battery? So I can run in power under 50W with certain resistances, right? I was going to put an Ubertoot,.dual coiled with kanthal at 0.6ohms on it first. I want to run around 30W. Or do I need to go straight to tc mode?

Yes, the higher the resistance, the better you can regulate power. So, for instance, at 1 ohm, you can go down to 17W. Your 0.6 should allow 30W.

You can use this calculator.
 
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Someone asked earlier in this thread, now that all the hype is over with the D2, what shall we talk about?

How bout this:

The KOOPOR Mini 60W with TC.

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This one seems to be dual circiut (boost/buck). Hope that's not just in temp.
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And a good price.
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Yes, the higher the resistance, the better you can regulate power. So, for instance, at 1 ohm, you can go down to 17W. Your 0.6 should allow 30W.

You can use this calculator.

I rarely run anything below 4.2V so no step down has never been an issue for me. Thanks for your response :). I'm not sure I would do a good job on a dual ti build in that atty. Its really a single coil atty, but I think it shines best with dual stacked coils.
 

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At this point in the evolution of vape gear, VW mode is a legacy feature in the TC mods. :)


Well, I would respectfully disagree. Many people have no interest in TC right now. The cost of OEM coils is higher and of the people that roll their own, maybe some (me) are happy with the status quo.

So at this point, TC is half baked. Not ready for prime time due to cost/hassle etc.

VW is hardly a legacy feature. Thanks though.
 

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Ok, so this mod fires at 4.2V on a fresh battery? So I can run in power under 50W with certain resistances, right? I was going to put an Ubertoot,.dual coiled with kanthal at 0.6ohms on it first. I want to run around 30W. Or do I need to go straight to tc mode?

29.4watts/4.2v
your good to go
 

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At this point in the evolution of vape gear, VW mode is a legacy feature in the TC mods. :)

Well, I would respectfully disagree. Many people have no interest in TC right now. The cost of OEM coils is higher and of the people that roll their own, maybe some (me) are happy with the status quo.

So at this point, TC is half baked. Not ready for prime time due to cost/hassle etc.

VW is hardly a legacy feature. Thanks though.


They why buy a TC mod. That was my point. I was't saying VW is obsolete. :)
 

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29.4watts/4.2v
your good to go

That's what I had figured, thanks :). I wanted to make sure it didn't have some weird glitch that it could only fire at 50W or above. In that case I would have to change things around and use a definite tc build on it and put the Ubertoot on a different mod.
 

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I think it gets comical, people blaming something for being what it is rather than getting their facts straight before purchasing or looking at something that meets their expectations.
Many of the Mods say they will do 5w or 7w on the low side when they have no Buck circuitry. They also list their Resistance points like .2ohm to 3ohm. Somewhere in there they will do as specified.

Well, its cost prohibitive, I build my own coils. Guess what, so do I and I know how to read a chart or calculate needed resistance to meet requirements.
Not sure why anyone building their own coils is concerned with 7w but oh well, it is what it is.:blink:

Ni200 Canada - check Ebay.ca:2cool:

1.8ohm Kayfun would happily cruise along at 11w
2.8ohm Protank would run days @ 6.3w
.8ohm dual coil Magma will be excellent at or above 22w

Having a proper Vape is All inclusive, not just a mod or a tank or a coil preference.
 
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Well, I would respectfully disagree. Many people have no interest in TC right now. The cost of OEM coils is higher and of the people that roll their own, maybe some (me) are happy with the status quo.

So at this point, TC is half baked. Not ready for prime time due to cost/hassle etc.

VW is hardly a legacy feature. Thanks though.
Yup, I gotta agree. I've hardly touched anything besides rebuildables in the last year, and I've played with TC off and on ever since the DNA40 came out.

I won't touch nickel anymore - I don't have an allergy or anything, it's just not possible to get the vape I'm used to on 28 or 30 gauge wire. 24 or 26 gauge nichrome or kanthal around 0.4-0.5 ohms are my go-to builds. Mucking about with flimsy thin gauge nickel coils is a pain, and doesn't perform as well as my other builds.

Sure, I'm kinda old school, but I spent way too much time with kanthal and nichrome before anyone had even thought of temp control.

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I think it gets comical, people blaming something for being what it is rather than getting their facts straight before purchasing or looking at something that meets their expectations.


Huh? Facts straight? That's what I was doing here gathering info about the mod before purchase.
I think it's fair to be disappointed about the lacking feature. My post was about that...


nickel occ coils listed on ebay.ca are 20$ each pack before shipping. I pay 13 for regular occ coils/pack. No thanks.
 

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I have a few DNA's and other TC mods that'll buck if I ever need it. I got this for work at various job sites. I'll prolly never use this for anything other than TC. Still a great mod for $50. Now I'm on the hunt for a sleeve cause I don't these work too well with PVC primer, glue, and dry wall dust etc. inside.
 

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Huh? Facts straight? That's what I was doing here gathering info about the mod before purchase.
I think it's fair to be disappointed about the lacking feature. My post was about that...


nickel occ coils listed on ebay.ca are 20$ each pack before shipping. I pay 13 for regular occ coils/pack. No thanks.

I can buy the OCC Ni200 coils at a local B&M for $3 each.
 
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