IPV Mini V2 ???

[Darryl Licht]

Lets try and clear this up - ONCE MORE

There is NO ipv mini v1 or v2
The IPV Mini is a SX130 30 watt Mod
The IPV Mini II or Mini 2 SX330v2c is a 70 Watt Device

Both Devices are current production and independently designed for needs of different users.

The IPV Mini 30w is in need of a Rev.2 update to correct Resistance readings

Beyond that, both Mods are an excellent choice within their design Categories.

Mini 30w is perfect for Protank to Subtank users, Even clearo users can get a consistent Vape with a 510/ego adapter.
Mini2 70w is perfect for the Power handling tanks and most moderate build rda's.

Neither are designed for Competition Cloud Chasers which normally seek 100+ watts to accomplish their goals.
i.e. .10ohm builds kicking 175+ watts on a fresh Battery.

crxess:

I think most here know what is meant by mini v1 or v2. Perhaps not correct, but we all understand the meaning. Not sure why it upsets you so...

I type it both ways... its easier to type v1 or v2 vs. mini or mini II.
It also leads to less possible confusion, imho!

BTW - the sx130 board is not sw upgradeable according to yihi.

 

[Darryl Licht]

I've had my mini 2 for a couple days now and want to see if others are having the same experiences.

1. When I lock it pressing the up and down buttons to throw in a pocket, sometimes it completely turns off and I have to do a 5 press to turn it back on.

2. Having to do a 5 press to turn it on/off ,it takes way too long compared to other mods I have used.

3. After taking a vape the screen dims, but stays on instead of going off. Sometimes it stays on for a few seconds, sometimes it goes off immediately and sometimes it stays on indefinitely.

Other than those gipes it seems to be a solid mod. I'm just wondering if I shoould see about getting a replacement if others are not having the same issues.

I'll tackle these by #:

1. I've never had that happen on my mini II! Are you sure something in your pocket isn't pressing the on/off button 5 times to turn it off say when your walking? Try locking it and setting it on a table. If it continues to shut off completely something isn't right, send it in!

2. Not on my mini II, you may have a faulty chipset.

3. Mine goes dim after a vape then shuts off after about 1 minute. If it stays on indefinitely, and you have the issues in 1 and 2... it is sounding more and more like a problem with your unit.

 

[rbferg]

I've had my mini 2 for a couple days now and want to see if others are having the same experiences.

1. When I lock it pressing the up and down buttons to throw in a pocket, sometimes it completely turns off and I have to do a 5 press to turn it back on.

2. Having to do a 5 press to turn it on/off ,it takes way too long compared to other mods I have used.

3. After taking a vape the screen dims, but stays on instead of going off. Sometimes it stays on for a few seconds, sometimes it goes off immediately and sometimes it stays on indefinitely.

Other than those gipes it seems to be a solid mod. I'm just wondering if I shoould see about getting a replacement if others are not having the same issues.

1. I haven't had this happen with mine .

2. After the 5 quick presses mine takes 4-5 seconds (start-up) before it's ready to fire.

3. After a vape my screen dims and goes out in around a minute. If I just hit the fire button from sleep the screen stays on for a couple seconds and goes out without dimming.

Sounds like yours could possibly have an issue? I'm really diggin' mine so far, it's a solid mod!

 

[crxess]

crxess:

I think most here know what is meant by mini v1 or v2. Perhaps not correct, but we all understand the meaning. Not sure why it upsets you so...

I type it both ways... its easier to type v1 or v2 vs. mini or mini II.
It also leads to less possible confusion, imho!

BTW - the sx130 board is not sw upgradeable according to yihi.

The why is simple. New Mod seekers come in and immediately get confused. Some think the Mini has already been superseded by a Version 2. Others don't understand why the New Mini has no PWM.
Little things that confuse people.
I don't care what You call it. You and I know what each is and has. My response was due to a few posting that did/do not know the differences or why.

I am also well aware the SX130 is not upgradable but it can be changed in Production. A Rev.2 board would correct future releases.

 

[Darryl Licht]

The why is simple. New Mod seekers come in and immediately get confused. Some think the Mini has already been superseded by a Version 2. Others don't understand why the New Mini has no PWM.
Little things that confuse people.
I don't care what You call it. You and I know what each is and has. My response was due to a few posting that did/do not know the differences or why.

I am also well aware the SX130 is not upgradable but it can be changed in Production. A Rev.2 board would correct future releases.

OK, so you meant a 130 HW revision not a SW upgrade. OK, got it!
Personally I think it is silly (bordering on stupidity) to have a chip based device that includes a USB and to not have/allow firmware upgrades!

Lastly, it looks like we wont have the mini 30W vs mini II 70W confusion issue much longer. It appears that P4Y is abandoning the mini 30W, and the supply is quickly drying up here in the USA. My local shop owner said he cannot even order more of the mini 30W mods; nor would he really want to, as the mini II 70W fills a much bigger market niche.

 

[ThunderDan]

OK, so you meant a 130 HW revision not a SW upgrade. OK, got it!
Personally I think it is silly (bordering on stupidity) to have a chip based device that includes a USB and to not have/allow firmware upgrades!

Lastly, it looks like we wont have the mini 30W vs mini II 70W confusion issue much longer. It appears that P4Y is abandoning the mini 30W, and the supply is quickly drying up here in the USA. My local shop owner said he cannot even order more of the mini 30W mods; nor would he really want to, as the mini II 70W fills a much bigger market niche.

This theoretical new revision you're discussing could still be just a software update. Yihi or p4u could program updated software on the same SX 130 board during manufacturing, and it would be a new revision/have a different firmware. So not necessarily a hardware revision, just different software on the same board. That is possible and happens all the time. Just because its not a user updatable board, doesn't mean the manufacturer can't update the software whenever they need to.

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[crxess]

OK, so you meant a 130 HW revision not a SW upgrade. OK, got it!
Personally I think it is silly (bordering on stupidity) to have a chip based device that includes a USB and to not have/allow firmware upgrades!

Lastly, it looks like we wont have the mini 30W vs mini II 70W confusion issue much longer. It appears that P4Y is abandoning the mini 30W, and the supply is quickly drying up here in the USA. My local shop owner said he cannot even order more of the mini 30W mods; nor would he really want to, as the mini II 70W fills a much bigger market niche.

P1 - I agree 100%. Never understand why china does things so old school. well at least some of the suppliers over there. At least YiHi has some upgradable hardware, which would include fix capability. As did Joyetech with the eVic series.

P2 -Wonder how your Vender got his info with the Chinese Holidays and all. Not calling B.S. as Vendors pretty much run the way things will go, but it may simply be their preference what to carry. P4Y site still has all info on the 30w and nothing on the 70w.

With the iStick 20w Mean voltage issues, Cloupor Mini/IPVmini2 no Buck it will be a rather poor move to drop one of the few devices that actually does a decent job of Bucking power. Smarter to fill that product gap, however Sigelei seems smart enough to cover the bases.
*also wondering if the resistance issue isn't already corrected as I haven't seen complaints from Sigelei owners or many later IPV mini owners.

Now thinking I will need to watch supply/pricing and stash back a few units for future new vapors.

 

[Darryl Licht]

P2 -Wonder how your Vender got his info with the Chinese Holidays and all. Not calling B.S. as Vendors pretty much run the way things will go, but it may simply be their preference what to carry. P4Y site still has all info on the 30w and nothing on the 70w.

His sales rep told him that. The mini 30W are also getting much harder to find online, but as you said that may be due to the VERY long Chinese holiday! Wish we got 9 days off for independence day! LOL!

 

[AciDeX]

Just checking in! Got my IPV Mini 2 yesterday! Really liking it so far! Been running the Big Dripper since I got my iStick 20w last July and I think the only thing that might replace it is a big dripper v2! I tried a few fancy coil builds and a dual coil 24g build so far. While it was "cool" to bump up to high watts at sub ohm's I don't think the battery life and juice consumption was worth it IMO. Ended up building a single 24g 1ohm coil just now and at 35w it's much better than the iStick for sure! I do have a Plume Veil clone that I may try building dual 28g coils on to see if that gets me closer to what I'm used to. To me the thicker kanthal made bigger clouds at the expense of muting my juice flavor. Oh well different strokes for different folks right?

 

[crxess]

This theoretical new revision you're discussing could still be just a software update. Yihi or p4u could program updated software on the same SX 130 board during manufacturing, and it would be a new revision/have a different firmware. So not necessarily a hardware revision, just different software on the same board. That is possible and happens all the time. Just because its not a user updatable board, doesn't mean the manufacturer can't update the software whenever they need to.

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We kind of understand that. i.e. Corrected at the Manufacturer level(firmware) but not available to current unit owners since Not Software upgradable. As opposed to the SX350 which has the SXI software to allow programmable changes(updates)

 

[Darryl Licht]

This theoretical new revision you're discussing could still be just a software update. Yihi or p4u could program updated software on the same SX 130 board during manufacturing, and it would be a new revision/have a different firmware. So not necessarily a hardware revision, just different software on the same board. That is possible and happens all the time. Just because its not a user updatable board, doesn't mean the manufacturer can't update the software whenever they need to.

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Since it cannot be upgraded by the user via a firmware update; of course the manufacturer can program that PROM to do anything within the chips capabilities!
But yes... that SX130 V2 doesn't necessarily have to be a total hw update.

We kind of understand that. i.e. Corrected at the Manufacturer level(firmware) but not available to current unit owners since Not Software upgradable. As opposed to the SX350 which has the SXI software to allow programmable changes(updates)

So is the SX330V2C also not SW upgradeable by the end user?

This is the closest to our mini II board that yihi shows specs for is the SX330V2S 60W: http://www.yihiecigar.com/products_info/YiHiEcigar-SX330-V2-S-60W-277372.html

This chipset is firmware upgradeable, although I'd be slightly skittish downloading a firmware update from a website that spells upgrade as "upgrate" as the P4Y site does!

 

[AciDeX]

Since it cannot be upgraded by the user via a firmware update; of course the manufacturer can program that PROM to do anything within the chips capabilities!
But yes... that SX130 V2 doesn't necessarily have to be a total hw update.



So is the SX330V2C also not SW upgradeable by the end user?

This is the closest to our mini II board that yihi shows specs for is the SX330V2S 60W: YiHiEcigar SX330 V2 S 60w

This chipset is firmware upgradeable, although I'd be slightly skittish downloading a firmware update from a website that spells upgrade as "upgrate" as the P4Y site does!

As a former collector of Chinese MP4 players (highly customized and sometimes purpose built mp3 players) of yesteryear. I'll confirm that bad grammar and spelling errors are of commonplace for HK/China. However as long as you are 100% certain that the firmware is compatible with your hardware and the process to update said device I wouldn't worry too much. They know their stuff, just have a bit of a language barrier per say.

 

[Darryl Licht]

As a former collector of Chinese MP4 players (highly customized and sometimes purpose built mp3 players) of yesteryear. I'll confirm that bad grammar and spelling errors are of commonplace for HK/China. However as long as you are 100% certain that the firmware is compatible with your hardware and the process to update said device I wouldn't worry too much. They know their stuff, just have a bit of a language barrier per say.

I have over 20 years in the computer industry so I am no stranger to the dl or install of new firmware... but when I build or spec custom systems I go with companies whose websites and firmware I trust. I just don't like the looks of the P4Y "upgrate" page: product upgrate_Download_Green Leaf Electronic Cigarette -


Hinky is the word that comes to mind. I can see a newb "brick" their brand new mini II trying the wrong "upgrate"! LOL!

Fact: China is the largest English speaking nation in the world... so why cant they get it right???

 

[ThunderDan]

Since it cannot be upgraded by the user via a firmware update; of course the manufacturer can program that PROM to do anything within the chips capabilities!
But yes... that SX130 V2 doesn't necessarily have to be a total hw update.



So is the SX330V2C also not SW upgradeable by the end user?

This is the closest to our mini II board that yihi shows specs for is the SX330V2S 60W: http://www.yihiecigar.com/products_info/YiHiEcigar-SX330-V2-S-60W-277372.html

This chipset is firmware upgradeable, although I'd be slightly skittish downloading a firmware update from a website that spells upgrade as "upgrate" as the P4Y site does!

Correct, the SX330V2C is also not upgradable by the end user.

The V2S is software upgradable by the end user, I believe that is what the 'S' in the model name signifies, but that is just a guess by me.

It looks like the board closest to the V2C on the yihi product page is the SX330 V2 50w. That board programmed with 60 (IPV2X uses V2C), or 70w software makes it a V2C. That is my theory at least from looking at the boards.



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[Darryl Licht]

Correct, the SX330V2C is also not upgradable by the end user.

The V2S is software upgradable by the end user, I believe that is what the 'S' in the model name signifies, but that is just a guess by me.

It looks like the board closest to the V2C on the yihi product page is the SX330 V2 50w. That board programmed with 60 (IPV2X uses V2C), or 70w software makes it a V2C. That is my theory at least from looking at the boards.


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Just curious why you think the 50W is closest to our mini II chipset, when yihi also shows the 60W that I linked to, and both are V2??? Is everything you stated a theory?

crxess any input???

 

[ThunderDan]

Just curious why you think the 50W is closest to our mini II chipset, when yihi also shows the 60W that I linked to, and both are V2??? Is everything you stated a theory?

crxess any input???

It was theory other than the SX330V2C is not user updatable/upgradable. That is the same reason I find it to be closest to the v2 50w board, also not upgradable.

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[Darryl Licht]

Correct, the SX330V2C is also not upgradable by the end user...

Where did you get this info?

Do you have a link?

Or is this also conjecture?

 

[ThunderDan]

Where did you get this info?

Do you have a link?

Or is this also conjecture?

First I tried it out, which didn't work, then did some googling and found various forum posts stating the sx330v2c was not upgradable.

I don't have a very good link handy, maybe if yihi ever update their product page to include the v2c we will have definitive information.

But check out p4u's ipv2x (uses sx330v2c) page: http://www.pioneer4you.com/goods.php?id=72

Nothing mentioned about software upgrades.

Then check out their ipv2s (uses sx330v2s) page:
http://www.pioneer4you.com/goods.php?id=74

Mentions software updates.


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[crxess]

But check out p4u's ipv2x (uses sx330v2c) page: ipv2x_iPV series product_Green Leaf Electronic Cigarette -


Then check out their ipv2s (uses sx330v2s) page:

ipv2s_iPV series product_Green Leaf Electronic Cigarette -

Mentions software updates.


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Your IPV2X info, according to link, is NOT PROVEN - no mention of Chip used
Your IPV2S info is Correct according to Page and P4Y release.

To speculate - IPV2S was designed for a future upgrade in output. That seems to be Limited to 70W with upgrade done BY CONSUMER.
IPV Mini 70w - YIHI SX330v2c is Factory Set to the Same 70w Max. and has the same functions as the SX330v2c.

Technically any chipset should have Updatability - (Upgrade=new OR corrected features) Manufactures or Designers(P4Y) to Lock a chipset has nothing to do with generation of release.


as I previously stated, I cannot specifically say this Chip is (X), however I can say this SX330v2c Chip is NOT a direct update of the earlier SX330 chips. It has component changes that do not match any of the earlier v2 chips.
*oddly, mine also has translucent blue(pail blue) Contact buttons - Where YiHi shows White contact buttons.
The way the Board is mounted in the IPV mini chassis, it cannot be fully explored without Desoldering for removal.
Not ready to wreck my Mod.



* Notably missing is the Touch circuitry. Evidence of a production change rather than a Firmware Flash.

 

[ThunderDan]

Your IPV2X info, according to link, is NOT PROVEN - no mention of Chip used
Your IPV2S info is Correct according to Page and P4Y release.

To speculate - IPV2S was designed for a future upgrade in output. That seems to be Limited to 70W with upgrade done BY CONSUMER.
IPV Mini 70w - YIHI SX330v2c is Factory Set to the Same 70w Max. and has the same functions as the SX330v2c.

Technically any chipset should have Updatability - (Upgrade=new OR corrected features) Manufactures or Designers(P4Y) to Lock a chipset has nothing to do with generation of release.


as I previously stated, I cannot specifically say this Chip is (X), however I can say this SX330v3c Chip is NOT a direct update of the earlier SX330 chips. It has component changes that do not match any of the earlier v2 chips.
*oddly, mine also has translucent blue(pail blue) Contact buttons - Where YiHi shows White contact buttons.
The way the Board is mounted in the IPV mini chassis, it cannot be fully explored without Desoldering for removal.
Not ready to wreck my Mod.

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* Notably missing is the Touch circuitry. Evidence of a production change rather than a Firmware Flash.

If the mini 70w uses a sx330v3c board then it is also not updatable according to yihi:

http://www.yihiecigar.com/products_info/YiHiEcigar-SX330-V3C-100W-293636.html

I was under the impression it used the sx330v2c board, which is what the ipv2x used as well (even if pioneer4you omitted that on their excellent product page).




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