Darryl, that chart is from the prehistoric days. It refers to filled cartos like Boges. That is not the chart that crxess was referring to.
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There are several charts in your link, so to make it easier for ppl here is the chart crxess is referring to:
Why don't any of these charts go into the sub ohm ranges? Especially with so many vapors venturing there now...
crxess: As for your suggestions for the KF and Orchid (Resistances and Wattages); aren't those subjective as well? Or averages from experienced builders/vapers?
That chart was made before I began vaping. It's OLD.
And yeppers on the "subjective". Everything we do is, right? Press the button, take a hit, and decide if we like it. No buttons, no charts, no display screens. In us we must trust.
It was the only one on his link that supported what he was referring to...???
Did YOU look at HIS link? If I am wrong, which other chart on that link supports his earlier post???
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There are several charts in your link, so to make it easier for ppl here is the chart crxess is referring to:
Why don't any of these charts go into the sub ohm ranges? Especially with so many vapors venturing there now...
crxess: As for your suggestions for the KF and Orchid (Resistances and Wattages); aren't those subjective as well? Or averages from experienced builders/vapers?
1) I have other links including Sub-ohm figures - Not the point.
Reference to show newer Vapors just how drasticly a few tenths can change Voltage requirements and settings.
2) Yes and no. All vaping is Subjective as to what one is trying to achieve. However it must be able to be achieved within building parameters and device capability.
*Trust me, you missed the Big Threads involving (GN) an ex member. Constant arguments about how everything was crap.
>>>> Hookah user trying to get Full Flavor on a Cool vape and expecting the equipment to function flawlessly.<<<<<
By Cool, I mean well below the low wattage & temps most start at - 5w-6w
:lolEver try a 2.8ohm coil on a Ego fixed 3.3v half dead?
Maybe 2.5w/3w 
**Again - The link is for a Visual understanding of variances only**
ETA: The sub-ohm chart is down the page - Scroll!!!
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I saw that! But I meant why no old chart has been updated to include down to sub-ohm levels.
I started a more modern chart, however I don't know where or how they arrived at the color classifications. In other words what wattage constitutes a cold, cool, warm, best, too warm, hot, and extremely hot categories. Is there some formula for that, or is that also subjective? I'd like to complete this chart and post it here.
In us we must trust.
Trust meⓇ*.
Too many variables... airflow, juice feed, wire type and build, drip tip type, draw, juice, power regulation type, and on and on...
No charts will work.
* "Trust me" is a registered trademark of Darryl Licht. Used without permission.
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Hello gents, ladies.
I really am new to the IPV mini, but not to vaping. I don't need or want a chart, but I would very much like to know why we have these two modes and what I might notice as the difference between the two, based on the same wattage in each?
So far, I'm not able to distinguish much of a difference in the vape. My current wattage setting is 8.4. (the coil is 1.9Ω) It appears that it's just ever so slightly more "powerful" of a hit when it's set on DC-DC.
I'm not looking for what I should set it on, but more of an understanding of both modes, which so far, have eluded me.
I really am new to the IPV mini, but not to vaping. I don't need or want a chart, but I would very much like to know why we have these two modes and what I might notice as the difference between the two, based on the same wattage in each?
So far, I'm not able to distinguish much of a difference in the vape. My current wattage setting is 8.4. (the coil is 1.9Ω) It appears that it's just ever so slightly more "powerful" of a hit when it's set on DC-DC.
I'm not looking for what I should set it on, but more of an understanding of both modes, which so far, have eluded me.
Help... my mini keep shutting off every so often. When ths coils resistance is too low will the mod just shut off? Only thing I can think of is my .4 ohm coil drops down and the system shuts down. Any ideas?
IPV Mini specs:
Loading resistance: 0.5 ohm -3.0 ohm
Output Voltage range: 3.0 V 8.0 V
Output Wattage range: 5.0 w 30 w
So it sounds like your coil is too low for the unit.
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Thank, I knew the specs. So I wanted to know if it is a definite yes that the mod will shut down when it detects the coils resistance is too low?
My .4 ohm coil has been firing fine for 3 days...
If my res is too low it tells me when i press the fire button and does not shut off. Mine has never turnes off unless i click it 5 times. You might want to send it in.
Hello gents, ladies.
I really am new to the IPV mini, but not to vaping. I don't need or want a chart, but I would very much like to know why we have these two modes and what I might notice as the difference between the two, based on the same wattage in each?
So far, I'm not able to distinguish much of a difference in the vape. My current wattage setting is 8.4. (the coil is 1.9Ω) It appears that it's just ever so slightly more "powerful" of a hit when it's set on DC-DC.
I'm not looking for what I should set it on, but more of an understanding of both modes, which so far, have eluded me.
Hi Kat.,
Now give that same wattage a try with a .8ohm coil. You would immediately notice a Vast difference.
That is the Why behind posting the Chart link.
Your 1.9ohm build is almost exactly 4.2v at 8.4 watts so there should be only the PWM pulse difference.
A .8ohm build at 8.4 watts would be well under 3 volts - The mini cannot go below 3.7ish in DC-DC (17.11v)
PWM allows the needed Drop.
1.7ohm is about as low as you can go without switching to PWM at that wattage.
Check/replace your Battery.
Shutting off is a sign of Battery Dipping - Over discharged, weak, damaged
Also clean both Battery Cap and upper contact and wipe battery ends on occasion.
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Thanks, crx-S. I have no .8ohm coil.
Had I, I'm sure I'd notice a dif, but I only use stock coils.What do you mean precisely by "Your 1.9ohm build is almost exactly 4.2v at 8.4 watts so there should be only the PWM pulse difference."? Are you suggesting that I leave it in DC2DC? As stated, the hit seems a bit more full, or powerful in that mode.
Thanks, crx-S. I have no .8ohm coil.
What do you mean precisely by "Your 1.9ohm build is almost exactly 4.2v at 8.4 watts so there should be only the PWM pulse difference."? Are you suggesting that I leave it in DC2DC? As stated, the hit seems a bit more full, or powerful in that mode.
PWM is meant primarily for when you vape at a low enough wattage that your voltage is below that of the battery. DC-DC is for primarily when you are using a wattage that's over the voltage of your battery. PWM is Pulse Width Modulation, where the voltage will actually pulse or fluctuate at a high frequency.
Pulse-width modulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Pbusardo has a nice explanation of PWM vs DC-DC here in his mini review:
Thank you, Darryl. I'll pay a bit of attention to Phil after some sleep, and over a nice cuppa.
Thank you, Darryl. I'll pay a bit of attention to Phil after some sleep, and over a nice cuppa.
BTW what tank or attachment are you using?
Right now, I've got a Naughty on it.
To be continued, Darryl. Some of us SoCals actually need to sleep.
To be continued, Darryl. Some of us SoCals actually need to sleep.
Thanks, crx-S. I have no .8ohm coil.
What do you mean precisely by "Your 1.9ohm build is almost exactly 4.2v at 8.4 watts so there should be only the PWM pulse difference."? Are you suggesting that I leave it in DC2DC? As stated, the hit seems a bit more full, or powerful in that mode.
When you wake
Yes you can leave your mini in DC-DC mode. You are averaging a 4.2v requirement for your preferred wattage so no Buck is required.(Buck=power reduction)
Well I listened to the PB video as much as I could. Have to admit the only thing I really learned was that I cannot listen to PB for 40 minutes. As a female with ADD, my mind goes everywhere but what Phil is saying, which, within minutes, starts to sound like WAH WAH WAH. I know he is well respected and with reason but all those charts and all that lingo that is hard for me to follow........it was like a exercise in math class trying to follow along AND understand.
I am not new to vaping either but wish I could understand.
From what I gather so far you only need to use PWM if you want to drop the outage the battery would normally be putting out.
I am going to translate that to PWM if low watts (below 10) and DC DC for anything above.
I am not new to vaping either but wish I could understand.
From what I gather so far you only need to use PWM if you want to drop the outage the battery would normally be putting out.
I am going to translate that to PWM if low watts (below 10) and DC DC for anything above.
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