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That is the way it worked from day one there is not a problem....Why are you hitting the - button in the first place you turn it on and hit the fire button, .If you want to go up you hit the - then + to adjust hit the fire button and that's it. If you then hit the + it will go to the next "m" preset, you hit the fire and vape at that setting .There was no independent wattage you are adjusting the memory you are in 1-5 that's the way it works. Check some videos Rip or anyone else you will see that. I installed the update works fine no problems.

Well I can't understand that, when I first had the unit all my memories stayed as set, M1 thru M5 and I was able to adjust wattage up and down without it touching any of the memories. Unless I'm going mad I'm sure that was how it operated initially.

Surely the idea of having memories is that they are settable at a certain value and do not move unless reprogrammed intentionally, that is fire, select + for memory hit - , adjust and fire/vape, simple, and the new value is set.

If you don't want it to change memory values surely it's logical (to me anyway) to fire, hit "-" first which allows adjustment independent of memories, a simple sequence to program surely. (that is the way mine was working I'm sure!)

If those memories are continuously changing every time you fire/vape, (the one you last used) then they are a waste of time, you just ain't going to know where you were, your memories could be all over the place at the end of the week! .......... Am I just being a total Aspie (I'm Aspergers) about this or does anyone else agree!
 

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Hi, IXIShogunR1
So every time you use it the last used memory value changes, is that correct ? .......... It always changes a programed memory setting every time you use it and you can't adjust wattage output without it doing that. That is how it's supposed to work. ??

if you adjust the wattage it will then set it to that memory that you are on when you hit the fire button. and yes thats how its always worked since i've had it.
but i have it set at 50 watts for my Doge at .6ohms and never really change it unless im playing around.

and sorry for the delay on the reply
 

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...When everyone tells you that's the way it works.....well.... good luck mate. Vape on.

Errrm pleasant fellow, ta!

If you read between the lines a little bit you'll see I'm beginning to question myself. I'm not so stupid as to believe I'm right when the rest of the world say's otherwise.

I tell you what, do you think it would be a better unit if it did have a completely independent wattage control along side programmable memories ?? And don't just say it's fine as it is.
 

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Errrm pleasant fellow, ta!

If you read between the lines a little bit you'll see I'm beginning to question myself. I'm not so stupid as to believe I'm right when the rest of the world say's otherwise.

I tell you what, do you think it would be a better unit if it did have a completely independent wattage control along side programmable memories ?? And don't just say it's fine as it is.

it could be a better unit, but i don't mind the memory settings.... its kind of like you have 5 presets on your radio you set it and depending on your mood of music you pick which preset you want..... same thing to me really 5 memory settings and you set them to 5 different devices/setups. kind of a set it and forget it thing.

now having a mode or maybe a M6 that doesn't save the setting would be handy.
but not really hard to just adjust the one im on at the time to fine tune it for that setup
 

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if you adjust the wattage it will then set it to that memory that you are on when you hit the fire button. and yes thats how its always worked since i've had it.
but i have it set at 50 watts for my Doge at .6ohms and never really change it unless im playing around.

and sorry for the delay on the reply

Ok thank you IXIShogunR1 ............ There has been too many that have said "that is the way it is". ... I must have been mistaken when I first had it, :blush: apologies and thanks to all that replied.

I guess it was case of me thinking that is how I thought it should work rather than how it actually was working, and only after the upgrade did I take more notice, as you do when upgrading software.

Anyhow, I think I'll suggest to Denny that it might be a nice idea to have independent wattage control + programmable memories in further updates.

He may think it will over complicate the device with too many button sequences to remember.
Also the fact that memory resets to defaults when batteries are changed every two or three days, not sure if "non-volatile memory" can be programmed in or it needs physical changes, caps or internal battery installed, I suspect the later ??
 

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Errrm pleasant fellow, ta!

If you read between the lines a little bit you'll see I'm beginning to question myself. I'm not so stupid as to believe I'm right when the rest of the world say's otherwise.

I tell you what, do you think it would be a better unit if it did have a completely independent wattage control along side programmable memories ?? And don't just say it's fine as it is.
Not really you can adjust it to your likening don't understand your problem. I don't need all the presets anyway, mine is set at 10,30,55,70,100 and I just leave 150. Drippers use 50-70 most of the time. The 10 I adjust up and down for tanks anyway. And I know I'm pleasant ...thanks.
 

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Not really you can adjust it to your likening don't understand your problem. I don't need all the presets anyway, mine is set at 10,30,55,70,100 and I just leave 150. Drippers use 50-70 most of the time. The 10 I adjust up and down for tanks anyway. And I know I'm pleasant ...thanks.

Hi again Krizzell,

Well it's not really a problem as I'm working around it, but it does irritate.

I'm a Ham Radio operator and work with many memories/presets. I don't know if you're familiar with Ham radio but many of the transceivers have a lot of memories to aid operation, as we cover a very wide range of frequencies.

Now, if I operate on a particular frequency I've pre-programmed into memory and happen to be talking to another ham that is operating old gear, he can drift off frequency. To combat that I will manually adjust to match the frequency as he/she drifts. We call that facility “memory shift”.

If by transmitting on the manually adjusted frequency, pressing the mike “talk” button, which is the equivalent of hitting the fire button in vaping terms, it re-programs that memory to the adjusted frequency. Next time I go to that memory I will be off frequency. So that memory or preset should never change unless intentionally re-programmed.

That IS how memories/presets should work. I've never before had an electronic device with memories that do not work in that manner, so yes I question it.

Of course a MOD is nowhere near that level of sophistication but memories are memories and should function like memories or, they are near next to useless for people that want to use them.

I guess this matters “not a jot” to many but the addition of a feature, just to catch folks and sell more stuff, that is not correctly implemented irritates the hell out of me!
Plus the fact that I'm an “Aspie” and do get more easily irritated than normal folks when things aren't right. lol :)

And, I rattle on too much if you hadn't already noticed!
 
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Hey guys guess what!
I wanted something lighter so I got the IPV2S. They must have been reading my mind cus they've sorted the memory issue I've been moaning about. :toast:
Now when you adjust wattage it does not re-program the memories, they stay set, great! (As long as you do it right of course) ....

I also read somewhere that the memories are now "non volatile", so when you change batteries the memories stay as programed also. I'm yet to pop a new battery in to be sure but it would make sense. If its a cap that holding it or a battery I don't know but it matters not cus I replace straight away.

My IPV3 is only a week old so it does make me wonder if I'm not going mad after all and it was as this IPV2S until I upgraded, who knows.

I might ask YiHiCigar is it ? ...... I think they make the chip? ...... It could possibly be changed in the next IPV3 upgrade to work as the new IPV2S, not sure about the volatile memory though.

And NO, I'm not upgrading my IPV2S !! :laugh:

Update, memories are not re-set to defaults when you change the IPV2S battery, now they have it bang on!
 
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for anyone one who needs instructions here you go

then download this file pioneer4you.com/data/article/1417136803311769852.zip
extract the file some where you can find it
find the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm and rename it to ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now take your ipv3 and take the batteries out
once they are out plug it in to your computer
open the program you installed from the first file it should be called sxi
once the program starts click connection and install the driver follow the prompts. once the driver is installed click return
back on the main screen of the program now click upgrade
click open file and load the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now press the upgrade button. once it finishes close the program and unplug your ipv3
put the batteries back in and turn it on you should be good to go
extract the file some where you can find it
find the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm and rename it to ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now take your ipv3 and take the batteries out
once they are out plug it in to your computer
open the program you installed from the first file it should be called sxi
once the program starts click connection and install the driver follow the prompts. once the driver is installed click return
back on the main screen of the program now click upgrade
click open file and load the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now press the upgrade button. once it finishes close the program and unplug your ipv3
put the batteries back in and turn it on you should be good to go
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for anyone one who needs instructions here you go

then download this file pioneer4you.com/data/article/1417136803311769852.zip
extract the file some where you can find it
find the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm and rename it to ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now take your ipv3 and take the batteries out
once they are out plug it in to your computer
open the program you installed from the first file it should be called sxi
once the program starts click connection and install the driver follow the prompts. once the driver is installed click return
back on the main screen of the program now click upgrade
click open file and load the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now press the upgrade button. once it finishes close the program and unplug your ipv3
put the batteries back in and turn it on you should be good to go
extract the file some where you can find it
find the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm and rename it to ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now take your ipv3 and take the batteries out
once they are out plug it in to your computer
open the program you installed from the first file it should be called sxi
once the program starts click connection and install the driver follow the prompts. once the driver is installed click return
back on the main screen of the program now click upgrade
click open file and load the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now press the upgrade button. once it finishes close the program and unplug your ipv3
put the batteries back in and turn it on you should be good to go
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That's exactly how I upgraded mine. Are you saying that the memories are as they should be if you follow what you've written?
Because if you are, as I've said, I did it exactly as you wrote and memories still function incorrectly!

Just wondering why you posted the instructions??

Only my IPV2S works with memories as it should. I won't be upgrading that for fear of it going wrong and loosing correct memory function.
 
at styks...I just received mine and I too find the presets changing anytime I change the wattage annoying. I have the VR150+ silver/carbon fiber version and it doesn't have the "Upgrate" yet. I expected that when I select "-" it would take it out of preset mode and put it in manual mode. But, like you, when I do this and fire it the last preset I have selected then changes to the new manual setting I intended to be temporary. It is annoying whether it's 'the way it is' or not. I'll make due and for the most part I only use my presets anyway but nonetheless I'd rather have a firmware update to fix this than for an extra 15 watts and lower resistance. I just wanted you to know that I too think this issue sucks. Otherwise I LOVE this sucka! 150 watts damn near killed me and I don't know how people do it. LOL
 

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Hi Smoothkaos,
I'm glad I'm not the only one that is irritated by this with the IPV3!

Yep it is fun though, with the right dripper build and 100W (Not tried 150W!) it sure does "chuck it" to coin a Rip Tripper phrase. That guys funny at times, irritating at others if you know what I mean? .... Depends on my mood I guess.

My IPV2S works exactly as it should. ... I've had no joy with Denny, one quick reply but no reply to further emails.
I'm sure if they can get the IPV2S memories to behave correctly then the IPV3 should not be beyond them!

I did email YiHiCigar, they sent the 150W downgrade file but it did not cure the memory issue. I emailed back saying so and stating that my IPV2S works as it should but they then just referred me to Green Leaf / Pioneer4You. ..........

Oh well I'm going to email Denny again, and again, and again, and again to see if I can get an answer. ... If enough of us email him he might get to sorting it!! ........... denny@pioneer4you.com
 
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i am glad my hubby has not run the upgrade yet i am going to make him wait now

To be honest if you hubby wants 170W go for it, it makes no difference by the looks of it, 150W or 170W the memories don't work as they should.
It doesn't mean it's not useable, it is perfectly useable it's just that it would be far better with correct memory implementation, as it is they are not true memories.

But let him try 150W! before upgrading! ........... lol
 
The memory issue is just an inconvenience and I'm already used to it but I'll still email "Denny" in the hopes of getting this polished for not only styks and I, but everybody else down the road as well. Having perfect function, touch sensor, onboard charging, higher watts (although I'm not even using 150 at the moment) is the ultimate end goal for this. Every single wattage is different from the next unlike what people are allegedly experiencing with the Cloupor T8. I'm in love with this!
 

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I have no problem with the way the memory works? The IPV2 does not have memory. As long as you can remember to hit the down button first to change watts in ANY memory that's it. How hard is that to do???

Please read properly all posts before you comment Krizzell. :facepalm:

I was talking about the IPVS2 not the IPV2............ The memories work on the IPVS2 as they should. ...

I'm just saying currently the IPV3 memories do not work as they should, fact!

I'm happy you have no problems, enjoy!
 
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for anyone one who needs instructions here you go

then download this file pioneer4you.com/data/article/14171368033....9852.zip
extract the file some where you can find it
find the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm and rename it to ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now take your ipv3 and take the batteries out
once they are out plug it in to your computer
open the program you installed from the first file it should be called sxi
once the program starts click connection and install the driver follow the prompts. once the driver is installed click return
back on the main screen of the program now click upgrade
click open file and load the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now press the upgrade button. once it finishes close the program and unplug your ipv3
put the batteries back in and turn it on you should be good to go
extract the file some where you can find it
find the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm and rename it to ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now take your ipv3 and take the batteries out
once they are out plug it in to your computer
open the program you installed from the first file it should be called sxi
once the program starts click connection and install the driver follow the prompts. once the driver is installed click return
back on the main screen of the program now click upgrade
click open file and load the file ipv3-upgrate-165w-0.08ohm.sxi
now press the upgrade button. once it finishes close the program and unplug your ipv3
put the batteries back in and turn it on you should be good to go
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the file extensions you have don't work any longer.. it says page cant be found ?? Also when I go to the pioneer sight the the files don't do anything.. one just opens up to a screen full of code ?? I'm lost !! I know a bit about computers but I have no clue how to perform this and I would really appreciate someone's help ?? I did email Denny with no reply so I am hoping you guys can help PLEASE...
 

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the file extensions you have don't work any longer.. it says page cant be found ?? Also when I go to the pioneer sight the the files don't do anything.. one just opens up to a screen full of code ?? I'm lost !! I know a bit about computers but I have no clue how to perform this and I would really appreciate someone's help ?? I did email Denny with no reply so I am hoping you guys can help PLEASE...

Oky doke .... Go here and download this first ... SXi upgrate_product upgrate_Download_Green Leaf Electronic Cigarette - ....... Install first.

Then here & download this .... ipv3 upgrate 165w 0.08ohm_Download_Green Leaf Electronic Cigarette - ..........

The first is the upgrade program and should be unpacked / installed. The second is the upgrade firmware software. you should rename adding .SXI on the end, so the program recognises it, navigate to that when asked to by the upgrade program. See below.

Run program, connect your IPV3. ( NB. REMOVE YOUR BATTERIES BEFORE CONNECTING ) Once connected go to "Connect" then click "Install Drivers" You will get a pop up (mine popped up on the task bar, so look there if you don't see it) normally with the correct option shown, if unsure look at the down tab. (Mine had no other option listed)

Mine shows "install win7/win8" or something like that. Click that and it will install the appropriate driver.

Hit the SXI logo to return to menu.

Hit "Upgrade" then hit "Open file" navigate to the firmware you renamed to end in .SXI, click that & OK/done

It'll show the file you opened on the prog.

Hit "upgrade" on that screen.

It will then install the upgrade. Note the progress bar because it doesn't say "done or finished," it just runs to 100% then goes away. Eject your device, unplug, install batteries and your done.

These look like very recent upgrade files, 18/12/2014 ......... So Denny may have fixed the memory issue! .... It would be nice.


Any probs, shout up.
 
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