I think people saw Kentucky in your sig. People like them for different reasons - but price would be the biggest reason I'd say.
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I think people saw Kentucky in your sig. People like them for different reasons - but price would be the biggest reason I'd say.
I don`t think it`s a case of "love letters" I think it`s more of a case that a fellow vaper has found a good source and shared it.
I`m grateful for that fact as I doubt I would have found it by pure search engine and it`s saved me money with no stain on my conscience
It is simple, you are only supporting retailers by buying from a US or UK website.
Look at the maths, Chinese factory produce an item , sell to FastTech/wholesaler for 5$.
FastTec sell it to me delivered for $10 and The wholesale sells it to the retailer for $8
You pay the US Retailer $20 and 5$ shipping.
I send $10 to china and keep $15 in my pocket. You send $8 to China, 5$ to a postal service and $12 to the retailer.
I wave three very local $5 bills at you as I drive by two weeks later blowing a big cloud of vapour.
I support a local economy, mine, I can then spend the $15 I saved locally on things that are actually locally produced, unlike a Chinese factory produced item.
The reason people post "love letters" about FT is their prices are rock bottom and their customer service is top notch. They deserve it.
I would pay for a well crafted UK made juice or product......I won't pay middlemen a 200-300% mark up to source and bring over a product from china when I can do it myself.
Although I do respect the buy at home viewpoint. Some push it to a degree that just gives me flashbacks to the late 70s when the auto industry was in real trouble and people were being harassed for driving foreign cars. Just not cool.
The reality is most people just want the best value for their money and if it is a foreign company that provides it so be.
Everyone has to make their own choice in the matter.
The reality is most people just want the best value for their money and if it is a foreign company that provides it so be.
Everyone has to make their own choice in the matter.
That math tells me you sent 2 extra dollars to China in your ten dollar purchase.
What I'm getting at is when someone makes a thread, say for example "thinking about getting an eGo"
And then someone else chimes in and says "you should also consider a Vamo" and then links to fasttech.
That thread is going to stay online and be seen by possibly thousands who are researching eGos over the next couple years. If it were me I would link to a local vendor. You could do more good for your local area that way. It's my opinion that if you're in a position to give advice, you should think about the big picture. Be smart about it.
In my example I have 15$ to spend locally in my own area whereas you have no control over the money you gave away to the middleman. If he buys a Merc with his profits you get no say.
I will continue to praise and recommend FastTech so long as their prices are the best and their service remains of a high standard.
I have no issue with using any company around the world.
I don't know, but a small business with good customer service, a customer’s confidence in the handling of their cc information and quality locally manufactured goods probably doesn’t have much to worry about from fasttech. Provape, IBtanked, Vapefexion, Phiniac, etc, spring to mind. There are a lot of online resellers that might be a bit concerned about Fasttech, but they dug their own grave. Why would I purchase something from a reseller at an inflated price, with little to no redress if there’s a problem and with the added risk of my CC number being stolen? Because they are “American”? I have only ordered from Fasttech once, they don’t carry the stuff I use most, but it was a pleasant transaction, I ordered some starter sets and sundries to gift to friends who had been burned by good old US resellers in order to keep them vaping and off the coffin nails. In the end if a local reseller is struggling because of Fasttech then they probably need to fix what is broke instead of relieing on their sense of entitlement. I just find it amazing that I can ask questions, get damn near instant reply’s, no question’s asked redress of issues (customers always right) a fantastic product and all at a fair price from a company on the other side of the planet! But I make one online purchase from a US based reseller, my CC number gets compromised, I have an issue with a product, and I am accused of trying to “cheat him” when I inquire about returning the faulty item. Yeah, why wouldn’t I by local. In the end my money will not make or break local vape businesses, it will be the dollars of new vapors, by burning them you risk losing them back to the cancer sticks and we as community will not grow, it will be that much easier for Big Tobacco and the Government to over price and over regulate this all away.
And why the love letters to Fasttech? Why wouldn’t someone praise a company that treated them well, gave them good value for their money, and enabled them to stay on the straight and narrow and off the cigs.
And why the love letters to Fasttech? Why wouldn’t someone praise a company that treated them well, gave them good value for their money, and enabled them to stay on the straight and narrow and off the cigs.
In theory you could spend that $15 locally, but experience would suggest you're not inclined to.
I have no issue with using any company around the world either. It doesn't matter. I have an issue with linking their products for them online.
To me its just another piece of our economy that is being outsourced. Its not just manufacturing jobs that were losing now, its our vendor jobs too. China has cheap labor. If you shop there, that's fine. I just don't throw up links, like "hey check it out everybody, you can get an eGo for five bucks right here!" Why would you do that?
ECF has a co-op section of the forum. Members have to be verified to participate those. The co-ops most often buy a bulk quantity of an ecig product direct from a Chinese supplier - its much cleaper. Lots of people participate in the co-ops. Fasttech's prices are like co-op prices on many items, so people are ordering from them.
I still buy most of.my stuff locally, but hard to pass up something like a k100 for half price. Things like clearomizers I would always buy locally since saving a dollar or 2 is not a huge deal. I spent 50 at fasttech and 100 locally this week. Basically I wouldn't have bought a k100 so its really just an addition to what I normally get. Also got a cheap starter kit to give away which may help local vendors if they decide they like vaping.
Made in china Made in england Made in us made in my shed.... which ever is cheaper ill buy... If the middle man wants to rip me off he can suffer the consequence.
Your kind of missing the point. Linking to companies like Fasttech, especially for new vapers, ensures that they will get what they need and at a low price, it keeps them vaping. It grows our community. If those same people decide they can't afford it or they get burned by one of our own, we have lost them and any money they would of potentially spent loccaly. I started out with an EGO and a Stardust, but as I advanced so did my equipment. Now it's almost 100% made in America by hard working local businesses, who are working their asses off to put real meaning back into the words "Made in America". I refuse to risk harming something I love so much out of a misplaced sense of Patriotism. This argument shouldn't be with the people doing the linking but to the resellers who have caused this. If so and so vape.com offers good customer service, fair prices and customer protection, they will get the business they need to grow. They will not worry about the Fasttechs out there and people will go out of their way to recommend them to others. In the end recommending people to some of our own on-line resellers is going to do more to hurt our economy then help it. And it's defiantly unfair to those locals busting their ... to do right by us.
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I agree, however for me, an EVOD clearomiser bought in the UK and delivered to my home would cost me $12, from FastTech it is $3.60 delivered.
I don't buy locally for ecigs. Even though my town has been lucky to see a few vape shops pop up, they aren't very good. Poor selection, extremely over priced, and the staff/owners don't seem to be very knowledgable. These shops have not earned my business simply by being local.
There are several American owned online stores that I love. I will continue to support these companies, adding things to my juice orders to ensure I can always get the great juices that I love. These shops have great juice, excellent customer service, and are extremely knowledgable. They have earned my business for sure.
But I just put in an order at fasttech for some cheapo clearos and attys. Because why not. I'm paying less than a dollar each for things that would normally cost $5-7. It isn't taking away any business from anyone else, these are items I wouldn't have purchased if I hadn't found such great deals on fasttech. Also, they take PayPal, and I appreciate that. My package went from Hong Kong to San Francisco in 2 days. Now I am waiting for it to ship to me. If they work, then fasttech has earned my business.
There are several American owned online stores that I love. I will continue to support these companies, adding things to my juice orders to ensure I can always get the great juices that I love. These shops have great juice, excellent customer service, and are extremely knowledgable. They have earned my business for sure.
But I just put in an order at fasttech for some cheapo clearos and attys. Because why not. I'm paying less than a dollar each for things that would normally cost $5-7. It isn't taking away any business from anyone else, these are items I wouldn't have purchased if I hadn't found such great deals on fasttech. Also, they take PayPal, and I appreciate that. My package went from Hong Kong to San Francisco in 2 days. Now I am waiting for it to ship to me. If they work, then fasttech has earned my business.
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Man Ref, you folks in the UK get stiffed, I used to do a lot of surf fishing and now I'm addicted to carp fishing, pretty much all the top equipment for these types of fishing is either made and or only sold in the UK, I can order it from the UK, have it shipped over here and still pay 10% less than if you walked into the shop there and bought it.
I personally have read several people say they mainly started Vaping to save money...but then they start looking at online Vendors charging so much for a Battery that will last them not even half a day..so they better get two, at least...oh yea, then there's a charger for that battery...and if you don't already own a wall plug/USB, better buy that...then there's your delivery devices...need several of those...Ok wow..right there is at least 50 bucks (probably more if you didn't know of some of the better Vendors to buy from) 9 times out of 10, you will not find all that you need/want at one Vendor...so now you're talking several charges for S&H... we haven't even touched juices yet. Most new people will order several Tobacco juices thinking they'll taste like a real Cig..when they don't, they'll order different flavors to try out. Now we're up to at least 70 bucks, buying online...more closer to 100 if at a B&M...and this is while they are still smoking Cigs that they are having to shell out $$ for...
then you want to come in here asking why we link people to Fasttech?? Seriously?? They could get all listed above, minus the juice for under 40 bucks...if we are talking Ego style Batteries...that's including 2 batteries, chargers, tanks and what not.
A LOT of People start Vaping to save $$...if they don't start seeing that savings, they go back to smoking real cigs. I don't care if it means a couple Vendor's loose a few Customers all because they can't compete...if it means keeping people off Real Cigs and on Vaping, I'm all for it!
I personally hope that with FT coming into the game, some of these Vendors will get their Act together and start doing something about, not only their high prices, but also their CS as well.
then you want to come in here asking why we link people to Fasttech?? Seriously?? They could get all listed above, minus the juice for under 40 bucks...if we are talking Ego style Batteries...that's including 2 batteries, chargers, tanks and what not.
A LOT of People start Vaping to save $$...if they don't start seeing that savings, they go back to smoking real cigs. I don't care if it means a couple Vendor's loose a few Customers all because they can't compete...if it means keeping people off Real Cigs and on Vaping, I'm all for it!
I personally hope that with FT coming into the game, some of these Vendors will get their Act together and start doing something about, not only their high prices, but also their CS as well.
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