Is fast ramp up time, going to give burnt taste?

[shnader nixon]

So is a lower heat capacity going to burn my wicks? because, i have been getting a burnt taste. what is a too low heat capacity or too high heat capacity in ....mj/K? Is there even such a thing, that you can have too fast ramp for the watts?

I may have too many wraps on this coil build, building 28g x2 twisted on zepherys v2, got like 10 wraps with 3mm ID haha, too much for the air holes i guess, it's also spaced, gives me too hot vape.

 

[Eskie]

If it's too hot, why not just turn down the power? And when you talk about too fast a ramp, are you referring to preheat? Are you in TC?

 

[shnader nixon]

i like my vapes at 50w and up. feels like a waste, and not good enough experience vaping lower. fast ramp, i mean the time it takes to heat up the coil. no i'm not in TC

 

[sofarsogood]

i like my vapes at 50w and up. feels like a waste, and not good enough experience vaping lower. fast ramp, i mean the time it takes to heat up the coil. no i'm not in TC

The burnt taste happens because the hot coil is boiling away the liquid faster than it can be replaced. It will keep happening until you change something.

 

[Jhnny]

I think you justneed to drip a little more often. I doubt anything is wrong. People who vape on series mods have ridiculously fast ramp up times, but they dont have problems with burnt tastes. Just check your cotton more often and drip more frequently.

 

[shnader nixon]

ahaa! thank you guys, since it's an RTA, i guess, i need to work on my wicking!

 

[smacksy]

ahaa! thank you guys, since it's an RTA, i guess, i need to work on my wicking!

What RTA you using?

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[shnader nixon]

I'm using the UD zepherys v2

 

[shnader nixon]

made a new fresh coil 0.36 ohms and quite fast ramp, that should reach maximum 80w before it gets too hot. going to wick it tomorrow, and check it out! do you guys have any advice on wicking the Zepherys V2? i have problems with it flooding, and if i use more wick, i get dry hits/burnt taste.

 

[smacksy]

made a new fresh coil 0.36 ohms and quite fast ramp, that should reach maximum 80w before it gets too hot. going to wick it tomorrow, and check it out! do you guys have any advice on wicking the Zepherys V2? i have problems with it flooding, and if i use more wick, i get dry hits/burnt taste.

I'm not familiar with that atty, sorry can't help you out..somebody will chime in, hopefully

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[KenD]

i like my vapes at 50w and up. feels like a waste, and not good enough experience vaping lower. fast ramp, i mean the time it takes to heat up the coil. no i'm not in TC

Set your power to suit your coils, or build your coils to suit the power you want to vape at. Lower coil mass means a faster ramp up, but usually also means that you need to use a lower watt setting. Alternatively you could use a mod that you can set up a preheat on, for example one of the Joyetech/Wismec/Eleaf mod with the latest firmware.

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[shnader nixon]

i don't think i have problems with not knowing how many watts to use it at, as i'm calculating everything in coil engine. what do you mean by preheat? i have another smaller type vape pen smoktech SID which goes 15w.

 

[smacksy]

i don't think i have problems with not knowing how many watts to use it at, as i'm calculating everything in coil engine. what do you mean by preheat? i have another smaller type vape pen smoktech SID which goes 15w.

Just out of curiosity do vape on a mod capable of over 50w or just 15w pens?

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[shnader nixon]

Right now i'm vaping on SMOK H-priv which can go 220w. unnecessary yeah i know haha

 

[Jim_ MDP]

i don't think i have problems with not knowing how many watts to use it at, as i'm calculating everything in coil engine.

Perhaps, but you seem set on "not wasting" the watts you have available, or feeling 50-80w is somehow "right" for you.

As suggested, experiment with the build to suit the power, or adjust the power to suit the build... there is no "set in stone" right value.

And yes... wicking is the balancing act we all must live with. It's critical if you're chasing that max power for a given build.
I'd offer suggestions, but I suck at it.

 

[mcclintock]

There are ways to actually speed up the ramp up but then there is the hotter (at the coil surface) build or setting where it's ramping faster by ramping towards a higher point and yeah that's going to be more likely to burn. Even a slow build will approach equilibrium as the hit progresses. A true comparison would be #28 twisted versus equal wraps of single #24, for example. Surface area is about the same but the #24 has more mass to heat. Just to clarify the difference.

Airflow, technique or simply how fast you want the vapor is also a limit on power and vapor rate (I prefer something more leisurely, just take my time fogging the room). The term "limit" is good to think of the way the various variables all set a maximum power. Works best when all is in proportion.

 

[smacksy]

Ramp up can be set on the mod, well some mods like my Koopor 300w Primus
It has 5 preheat settings that I really like..instant too..no waiting for a ramp up, love it, Just sayin




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[shnader nixon]

I can't get enough throat hit from 30w. 40w is ok, but 50w is nice. 60-80 after meals, or if i want sweets. When i first started vaping on this build i couldn't even vape 25 watts. I didn't even push myself, i just wanted to see the bigger clouds it could make. So i lowered the nic, and could finally vape 30w with enjoyment.

I was on 18mg nic, now i'm on 6mg, i jump tapered it down too fast! so i have to make my own juices, if i want to go lower watts, as i'm still not getting enough throat hit! i need more PG i guess.

Now i have another strange issue here, i made this "28g x2" twisted kanthal coil, with "6 wraps", and "2.5mm ID". somehow it went from 36 Ohms to 41 ohms. i don't know how that's possible! But the middle wraps in the coil is a bit tighter wrapped than the sides, and also one leg has to be longer than the other, on this RTA. mark i have dual coils! the wicking has just increased it by 0.01 ohm, so no probs there. still it vapes really good at 50w now! could it be that one long leg, and those looser wraps on sides?

 

[KenD]

i don't think i have problems with not knowing how many watts to use it at, as i'm calculating everything in coil engine. what do you mean by preheat? i have another smaller type vape pen smoktech SID which goes 15w.

With for example the Eleaf Pico you can set up a preheat wattage that's higher than your set wattage, and a time for how long it'll fire at that higher wattage before going to your set wattage. Helps with the ramp up time with beefier coils.

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[shnader nixon]

but why doesn't the H-priv offer this? it is a quite good mod isn't it?