Is fast ramp up time, going to give burnt taste?

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Jim_ MDP

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but why doesn't the H-priv offer this? it is a quite good mod isn't it?

It's a new feature, bringing what was a generally TC exclusive function to budget wattage mode mods.
joyetech is having fun with feature updates the past 14 months. :p

Give it time, it'll probably catch on (perhaps smok already has it?).
 
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I can switch between soft-normal-hard-max on the power settings, maybe these change the ramp? and also i adjusted the initial ohm to "0.36" even if it said "0.42" on the mod, that gave me much cooler vape. as it became somehow too hot, all of sudden.

It will in fact. I have an old xCube II which has five levels of "initial hit strength" though I suppose I should start calling them pre-heat adjust... are you missing one on the new mods?

Here's the deal on the xCube...

Min, Soft, Norm(al), Hard and Max.
They adjust the set wattage by a pre-set percentage for the initial two seconds, as follows... -15%, -10%, 0, +10% and +15%.

Haven't thought about that in a year. :D

Be careful about overriding the internal ohm meter, but yes, a change in res can have a drastic affect on applied power (the voltage specifically). Use it wisely, if at all... it's a bit more dangerous (potentially) than a TC mode's "res lock".
 
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I have finally found it out! yes these settings are for ramp up time, and they helped out big time, no need to set the initial resistance. but one thing, do you guys think i can fit 9 wraps of my twisted 28g x2 in this zepherys v2? i do have 32g twisted x4, and normal round kanthal which is 24g. I guess i have too thick wires to get to my final perfect build maybe?
 

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It will in fact. I have an old xCube II which has five levels of "initial hit strength" though I suppose I should start calling them pre-heat adjust... are you missing one on the new mods?

Here's the deal on the xCube...

Min, Soft, Norm(al), Hard and Max.
They adjust the set wattage by a pre-set percentage for the initial two seconds, as follows... -15%, -10%, 0, +10% and +15%.

Haven't thought about that in a year. :D

Be careful about overriding the internal ohm meter, but yes, a change in res can have a drastic affect on applied power (the voltage specifically). Use it wisely, if at all... it's a bit more dangerous (potentially) than a TC mode's "res lock".
yeah these pre-heat adjusts saved me big time! but now i have burnt my cotton a bit haha, so it still tastes a bit funky! will change it tomorrow.....as i have to sleep now!

i will be careful with the initial resistance settings, i suppose it's no danger if i lower it, instead of tweaking it up huh?
 

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I have finally found it out! yes these settings are for ramp up time, and they helped out big time, no need to set the initial resistance. but one thing, do you guys think i can fit 9 wraps of my twisted 28g x2 in this zepherys v2? i do have 32g twisted x4, and normal round kanthal which is 24g. I guess i have too thick wires to get to my final perfect build maybe?

Checked a pic (don't have a Z) and it looks like a small but normal (22mm ?) four post deck, and that's a loooong bit of coil you're proposing. I'm ata disadvantage as I roll lightly spaced exclusively so it'd be even harder for me. :p

Without another owner to confirm, only you can decide just how much coil you can fit in there, just remember... shorting to the metal chamber bell and it's a bad day all around. :D
 

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yeah these pre-heat adjusts saved me big time! but now i have burnt my cotton a bit haha, so it still tastes a bit funky! will change it tomorrow.....as i have to sleep now!

i will be careful with the initial resistance settings, i suppose it's no danger if i lower it, instead of tweaking it up huh?


Have at it again tomorrow, but I wonder if you'd have a better time with a few less wraps on those coils.
I haven't rolled up twisted in a while, so I'm trying to recall where that tipping point lies where it's just too long a span for ramp-up and wicking. A few wire and ID variables go into it... keep asking about and experimenting.

And with the skinny wire... try fewer wraps of triple twisted. :)

(that may force you to go single coil though, with the resulting lower res)
 
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So is a lower heat capacity going to burn my wicks? because, i have been getting a burnt taste. what is a too low heat capacity or too high heat capacity in ....mj/K? Is there even such a thing, that you can have too fast ramp for the watts?

I may have too many wraps on this coil build, building 28g x2 twisted on zepherys v2, got like 10 wraps with 3mm ID haha, too much for the air holes i guess, it's also spaced, gives me too hot vape.
You have to balance your power with airflow. For example, I can push more power through a mutationX V4 than I can through a Tsunami. Because the Mutx has an unholy amount of airflow. My temple.. hell, I would have to wire that thing direct 220A from the fuse box to max that airflow. LOL.
 

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I have finally found it out! yes these settings are for ramp up time, and they helped out big time, no need to set the initial resistance. but one thing, do you guys think i can fit 9 wraps of my twisted 28g x2 in this zepherys v2? i do have 32g twisted x4, and normal round kanthal which is 24g. I guess i have too thick wires to get to my final perfect build maybe?
sounds to me like you are choking your wraps. You might have better results wrapping your core coil with 1 single strand of 32g stainless steel. That will trap the juice for flavor and not require so much heat that your wick burns before the juice in the wrapping does. If you want to get real fancy.. use a bit of 0.5x0.1 mm flat ribbon wire, twisted loosely with 1 strand of 32ga stainless, and THEN wrap it around the core wire. Both the flat kanthal and 32ga stainless are quite thin so heat rather quickly, yet trap a huge amount of juice for flavor.
Mind you, Im just starting to do some flavor builds, but I can pump some wicked axed clouds. LOL. Either way, its all about physics. Clouds like fast ramp up, flavor likes a more gradual ramp up. Kind of like you simmer a pot of soup to get the flavor out..
 
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