Is it a Terrible Thing to Want Jesus To Come Now?

[LisaLisa]

I struggle with this just about every day. I want Jesus to come TODAY! Not even for me, I have a very nice life. But, I see so much suffering in the world, and if affects me so deeply that it's hard to find joy when so many others are suffering so much.

Reading or watching the news is so painful anymore. Today I read about a 2 week old baby being raped, yes, raped. Don't know if she will survive, probably not. Yesterday I read about a beautiful young girl who had survived bone cancer, only to loose her leg and then her hearing, now she has gone missing and nobody knows where she is. The step mother is not cooperating with police, and cadaver dogs hit on the wood chipper in the backyard, or something like that.

This is just so difficult to deal with, so much pain in the world, the innocent animals and children that hurt so much. I want it to all go away, right now.

But then I think of all of the people who are not saved, and how they will loose their lives if Jesus were to come right now.

How do you balance it out? I struggle with this.

 

[DaveP]

If you compare our three score and ten years on this Earth to the infinite amount of time in eternity, the wait seems worth it. Think of Earth as a training ground and sorting facility. The journey begins once we get on the train. I can wait patiently if I think in those terms.

 

[LisaLisa]

If you compare our three score and ten years on this Earth to the infinite amount of time in eternity, the wait seems worth it. Think of Earth as a training ground and sorting facility. The journey begins once we get on the train. I can wait patiently if I think in those terms.

I can wait patiently too, while I sit in my nice home, drinking my hot tea, cooking my big dinner with a fire burning in the fireplace, my 2 well feed dogs by my side, and chatting online.

It's easy for me to wait because I have a good life. But I can't stop thinking about all of those who don't. The millions of people in this world who are suffering terrible, the billions of animals that are suffering. I have such a hard time dealing with it.

 

[LisaLisa]

I just want God to put an end to all of the evil, the injustice, the cruelty, the suffering. I want Him to end it now. But, if He ended it now, so many would be lost.........it's a catch 22.

 

[o4_srt]

Ummm wow....imho, it IS a terrible thing when you "flaunt" your nice life around

Perhaps instead of wishing jesus would come now while drinking hot chocolate in front of a fire, volunteer and actually make a difference instead of waiting and hoping for jesus to do it

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[acidrayne280]

i don't think it's a terrible thing. look around at the wickedness, the general lack of caring, lack of respect, lack of compassion. Sometimes I wonder what has happened to the world to make it such a horrible place. I think a lot of it has to do with people being out for profit. You can't take all your money with you when you die anyways. Its people that matter and the connections you make while you are here, how you can do something for someone else. i read a story a while back where an 80 year old woman was evicted from her apartment, the landlord put all of her belongings on the sidewalk, (i had a pic, but can't find it) and there was a mass of people picking through all of her belongings while she sat helpless. these people were driving mercedes benzes and BMWs....stealing from a homeless woman.

Disclaimer: I choose not to subscribe to any organized religion out of personal principle, however; i will not belittle you for your beliefs.

P.S. I don't consider myself christian, but i think i like this particular forum

 

[LisaLisa]

Ummm wow....imho, it IS a terrible thing when you "flaunt" your nice life around

Perhaps instead of wishing jesus would come now while drinking hot chocolate in front of a fire, volunteer and actually make a difference instead of waiting and hoping for jesus to do it

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Nice job in missing the point completely. Times like this make me wish for the private format again. This is a sub-forum for Christians. I do volunteer quite a bit of my time, but I volunteer my time to doing God's work. I preach online to unbelievers, and that is the most important volunteer work a person can do from a Christian's perspective.

Why? Because a Christian knows that Jesus is the ONLY salvation in this world, He is the only hope for the future, He is the only one that will bring REAL hope and change, He is the only one who will completely remove evil, wickedness, suffering from this world. Nothing other then JESUS can do that, and I put my eggs in His basket, not this world.

 

[LisaLisa]

i don't think it's a terrible thing. look around at the wickedness, the general lack of caring, lack of respect, lack of compassion. Sometimes I wonder what has happened to the world to make it such a horrible place. I think a lot of it has to do with people being out for profit. You can't take all your money with you when you die anyways. Its people that matter and the connections you make while you are here, how you can do something for someone else. i read a story a while back where an 80 year old woman was evicted from her apartment, the landlord put all of her belongings on the sidewalk, (i had a pic, but can't find it) and there was a mass of people picking through all of her belongings while she sat helpless. these people were driving mercedes benzes and BMWs....stealing from a homeless woman.

Disclaimer: I choose not to subscribe to any organized religion out of personal principle, however; i will not belittle you for your beliefs.

P.S. I don't consider myself christian, but i think i like this particular forum

Yea, I believe that, people are so cruel. I'm glad you like this forum, and I'm glad you're here!

 

[o4_srt]

I saw the point, but your posts came across with an incredibly condescending feeling

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[tornado9015]

Nice job in missing the point completely. Times like this make me wish for the private format again. This is a sub-forum for Christians. I do volunteer quite a bit of my time, but I volunteer my time to doing God's work. I preach online to unbelievers, and that is the most important volunteer work a person can do from a Christian's perspective.

Why? Because a Christian knows that Jesus is the ONLY salvation in this world, He is the only hope for the future, He is the only one that will bring REAL hope and change, He is the only one who will completely remove evil, wickedness, suffering from this world. Nothing other then JESUS can do that, and I put my eggs in His basket, not this world.

Actually I would disagree, If I may qoute, Mark 10:25, Matthew, 19:24, and Luke 8:25. " It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god."

If somebody is drowning, and they pray to God to save them, God will not come. If that person is then saved, by a man, did God send that man? You can decide. You say that only Jesus can save people from the wickedness of this world, but he hasn't done it in the last 2010 years, unless you believe that he works through us. And by refusing to go out and do good, volunteer in a soup kitchen run by a church. Start a group to patrol a park at night to prevent rape. Fight for the rights of citizens in other countries to have the freedom of religion that you do. There are places around this world where you could be killed for worshiping Jesus.

Perhaps every second you spend hoping that Jesus will come down and end the world's suffering, is a second you spend refusing to do the work Jesus wishes he could do through you.

 

[acidrayne280]

I'm glad you like this forum, and I'm glad you're here!

thanks, its nice to find a place with like-minded individuals

 

[Mr.Mad]

I struggle with this just about every day. I want Jesus to come TODAY! Not even for me, I have a very nice life. But, I see so much suffering in the world, and if affects me so deeply that it's hard to find joy when so many others are suffering so much.

Reading or watching the news is so painful anymore. Today I read about a 2 week old baby being raped, yes, raped. Don't know if she will survive, probably not. Yesterday I read about a beautiful young girl who had survived bone cancer, only to loose her leg and then her hearing, now she has gone missing and nobody knows where she is. The step mother is not cooperating with police, and cadaver dogs hit on the wood chipper in the backyard, or something like that.

This is just so difficult to deal with, so much pain in the world, the innocent animals and children that hurt so much. I want it to all go away, right now.

But then I think of all of the people who are not saved, and how they will loose their lives if Jesus were to come right now.

How do you balance it out? I struggle with this.

I agree 100% LisaLisa, and feel the same way.. I now feel since Im not living and driving the Hell Bus.. Got my act straight and have and still learning to follow my spirit rather than my flesh.

What made it really tough and put me in a real bad depression was the understanding of just how evil the world is. And how much control the devil has over each of our lives... We are stuck here until our saviour calls for us... My flesh wishes it was right NOW!!!!! But my spirit says soon. !!!!


And as far as TV goes... kick it out the front door...... your spirit will thank you.

 

[o4_srt]

You will be judged not only by your words, but by your actions. Actions speak louder than words. Net evangelizing is all well and good, but I can't help to think that the hungry people would rather have a bowl of soup, or a fire victims house rebuilt, or a homeless man a blanket.

By now, most in america have an idea of the gospel,, and coming from someone who had it jammed down their throat growing up, I would have been a whole lot more accepting of it if actions backed up the words. Church was a place to make yourself feel good, not others.

By living gods will, you bring him glory. By telling people about his glory, you usually get ignored unless you give people a chance to see him work through you.

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[lmrasch]

Yes...we all need to reach out beyond our own comfy zones and give what we can to others less fortunate than ourselves...no disagreement with you o4_srt, rightly said. What you don't know is what a lot of us are already doing....and of course we don't need to give an account to you, that would be trying to prove good works to a man/woman and hopefully would not be the reason for doing it in the first place.

 

[blondeambition3]

You will be judged not only by your words, but by your actions. Actions speak louder than words. Net evangelizing is all well and good, but I can't help to think that the hungry people would rather have a bowl of soup, or a fire victims house rebuilt, or a homeless man a blanket.

By now, most in america have an idea of the gospel,, and coming from someone who had it jammed down their throat growing up, I would have been a whole lot more accepting of it if actions backed up the words. Church was a place to make yourself feel good, not others.

By living gods will, you bring him glory. By telling people about his glory, you usually get ignored unless you give people a chance to see him work through you.

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I won't disagree with you completely for you are speaking 'some truths' rightly... especially the statement 'by living God's will we bring Him Glory'... but it is by 'grace that we're saved, not of works, lest any Man boast'. Have you considered the possibility not every person can work in soup kitchens, rebuild fire ravaged homes or hand out blankets because of physical infirmities, financial limitations themselves or other family responsibilities or time restrictions, but can 'walk the walk' of Christ & spread the 'good news of the Gospel' other ways... such as 'smiling' at every one you meet or inserting Gospel tracts in every envelope they mail out.. things like that. I wasn't one of those People who had the gospel crammed down my throat, (I grew up in Church also), but I had many Christian Friends who felt the same way you do. I was always taught in Church 'We're just sinners saved by Grace'.. fallen in need of a savior.
I understand where Lisa is coming from & it's scriptural for her to feel this way... All of us who Love Him are anxiously awaiting His return. For all we know the Holy Spirit is working 'in' her and 'through' her with groans & utterances.. He's worked through 'me' like that before and as He leads us into all truths and works in us and through us we'll go through whatever He purposes. Church is to make believers feel good, but it's also a place of worship to praise the most high GOD ... for us to come together in support & encouragement of one another, among many other things.. such as soup kitchens, food pantries, world outreach, missionary works, what have you. There are many broken people in those pews also don't forget... they don't have to be lying next to a trashcan in an alley somewhere to be sick and in need of a physician. No matter how long I live, no matter how many lives I lead to Christ, no matter 'what' I do, from time to time I'll mourn as Lisa is mourning this moment. Please don't condemn her for being vulnerable and showing the 'heart' of Christ. I hope you decide to come in and grow in Christ with us. We're not perfect, but we're really nice once you get to know us.

 

[LisaLisa]

I won't disagree with you completely for you are speaking 'some truths' rightly... especially the statement 'by living God's will we bring Him Glory'... but it is by 'grace that we're saved, not of works, lest any Man boast'. Have you considered the possibility not every person can work in soup kitchens, rebuild fire ravaged homes or hand out blankets because of physical infirmities, financial limitations themselves or other family responsibilities or time restrictions, but can 'walk the walk' of Christ & spread the 'good news of the Gospel' other ways... such as 'smiling' at every one you meet or inserting Gospel tracts in every envelope they mail out.. things like that. I wasn't one of those People who had the gospel crammed down my throat, (I grew up in Church also), but I had many Christian Friends who felt the same way you do. I was always taught in Church 'We're just sinners saved by Grace'.. fallen in need of a savior.
I understand where Lisa is coming from & it's scriptural for her to feel this way... All of us who Love Him are anxiously awaiting His return. For all we know the Holy Spirit is working 'in' her and 'through' her with groans & utterances.. He's worked through 'me' like that before and as He leads us into all truths and works in us and through us we'll go through whatever He purposes. Church is to make believers feel good, but it's also a place of worship to praise the most high GOD ... for us to come together in support & encouragement of one another, among many other things.. such as soup kitchens, food pantries, world outreach, missionary works, what have you. There are many broken people in those pews also don't forget... they don't have to be lying next to a trashcan in an alley somewhere to be sick and in need of a physician. No matter how long I live, no matter how many lives I lead to Christ, no matter 'what' I do, from time to time I'll mourn as Lisa is mourning this moment. Please don't condemn her for being vulnerable and showing the 'heart' of Christ. I hope you decide to come in and grow in Christ with us. We're not perfect, but we're really nice once you get to know us.

AMEN Blonde! Sometimes the people in the world just don't get the big picture. There is nothing me or you can do to stop child abuse, to stop children from being abducted, raped and killed, of the mass genocide going on in other countries. There is nothing me or you can do to stop owners from abusing their animals. These are things that go on behind closed doors, but God sees all. The only thing we can do is pray constantly for the wickness to come to an end, quickly.

Jesus called for us to be fishers of men, and spreading the gospel is more important then anything else, especially in these last days.

I'm just sooooo sick of the evil in this world, it's almost too much to bear.

 

[LisaLisa]

I agree 100% LisaLisa, and feel the same way.. I now feel since Im not living and driving the Hell Bus.. Got my act straight and have and still learning to follow my spirit rather than my flesh.

What made it really tough and put me in a real bad depression was the understanding of just how evil the world is. And how much control the devil has over each of our lives... We are stuck here until our saviour calls for us... My flesh wishes it was right NOW!!!!! But my spirit says soon. !!!!


And as far as TV goes... kick it out the front door...... your spirit will thank you.

Hey Mr. Mad! Glad you finally stopped in here, what took you so long brother?????????

 

[LisaLisa]

Actually I would disagree, If I may qoute, Mark 10:25, Matthew, 19:24, and Luke 8:25. " It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god."

If somebody is drowning, and they pray to God to save them, God will not come. If that person is then saved, by a man, did God send that man? You can decide. You say that only Jesus can save people from the wickedness of this world, but he hasn't done it in the last 2010 years, unless you believe that he works through us. And by refusing to go out and do good, volunteer in a soup kitchen run by a church. Start a group to patrol a park at night to prevent rape. Fight for the rights of citizens in other countries to have the freedom of religion that you do. There are places around this world where you could be killed for worshiping Jesus.

Perhaps every second you spend hoping that Jesus will come down and end the world's suffering, is a second you spend refusing to do the work Jesus wishes he could do through you.

Why do you assume that I"m wealthy? Why do you assume that I do nothing to help people? Those are pretty big assumptions, actually judgments I would say. Luke 6:42 "How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

The truth is, you have no idea what I do. If someone is drowning, and they pray to God to save them, how in the world do you know that He won't? Do you doubt the power of God? Many miracles happen around the world every single day. I put my faith in Him, not mankind for relief of the worlds problems.

 

[LisaLisa]

I saw the point, but your posts came across with an incredibly condescending feeling

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Maybe it came across that way to YOU because you are just trying to find fault with someone else. It's a twisted perception problem on your part.

Why do you assume that I"m wealthy? Why do you assume that I do nothing to help people? Those are pretty big assumptions, actually false judgments I would say. Luke 6:42 "How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

The truth is, you have absolutely no idea what I do. If someone is drowning, and they pray to God to save them, how in the world do you know that He won't? Do you doubt the power of God? Many miracles happen around the world every single day. I put my faith in Him, not mankind for relief of the worlds problems.

 

[eHuman]

Not talking about those who are depressed and just want to end it...

I think that it is the natural outcome of growing and maturing in Christ, understanding His heart and seeing and living in this fallen world to just want it to end and be there with Him.

It is like the closer our relationship is the more "homesick" we become. I go through the same thing very often. I know that it's not time because I'm still here, but it wouldn't bother me a bit if it ended right now.

We are finite creatures in the age of technology standing in front of the microwave oven screaming, "HURRY UP!"

To God being infinite, we are already there with Him.