Is it a Terrible Thing to Want Jesus To Come Now?

[LisaLisa]

Not talking about those who are depressed and just want to end it...

I think that it is the natural outcome of growing and maturing in Christ, understanding His heart and seeing and living in this fallen world to just want it to end and be there with Him.

It is like the closer our relationship is the more "homesick" we become. I go through the same thing very often. I know that it's not time because I'm still here, but it wouldn't bother me a bit if it ended right now.

We are finite creatures in the age of technology standing in front of the microwave oven screaming, "HURRY UP!"

To God being infinite, we are already there with Him.

I agree 150%! But, for me, it goes beyond being homesick. It hurts me to see the condition of mankind around the world. It's so bad, and getting worse all of the time. Humans have such a great capacity to love, but they have an equal capacity to hate and be incredibly cruel to eachother.

I can't even imagine how much this hurts God. It's not even something that I can comprehend, and I wonder how much worse it's going to get before He finally comes and ends it all.

 

[eHuman]

Tornado you say that Jesus hasn't saved anyone in 2010 years? You obviously dont understand. While God does sometimes save people from this worlds evils and always has, what salvation is about is saving man from the punishment of their own sin. And He does that every single day.

You can be saved (posess salvation) while rotting in a Turkish jail getting torchured daily and underfed. This life is short and will not compare to an eternity in Heaven.

You can remain unsaved but have limitless resources, money, things, people and live healthy to 120 years old. This life is short and will not compare to an eternity in Hell.

It is through much trial and tribulation that the righteous are saved, so what is to become of those that do not know or love God?

 

[eHuman]

I agree 150%! But, for me, it goes beyond being homesick. It hurts me to see the condition of mankind around the world. It's so bad, and getting worse all of the time. Humans have such a great capacity to love, but they have an equal capacity to hate and be incredibly cruel to each other.

I can't even imagine how much this hurts God. It's not even something that I can comprehend, and I wonder how much worse it's going to get before He finally comes and ends it all.

What is sad is to understand that as bad as it is getting, it will become much worse before the fulfillment of the Gentiles is complete. Just a little while longer, God's offer of grace will not be available. No we can't imagine the fullness of God's heart on it, but He gives us the following to consider to attempt to imagine:
1. He sent His son as the propitiation for the sin of everyone who ever has or ever will walk the face of the earth. All are forgiven. Not all will accept His forgiveness. That disrespects and angers God because for them, Jesus died unnecessarily.
2. Read Revelation to get an idea of how the sin of the world makes God feel. His wrath is not hateful it is righteous, and it is utterly consuming.

 

[LisaLisa]

What is sad is to understand that as bad as it is getting, it will become much worse before the fulfillment of the Gentiles is complete. Just a little while longer, God's offer of grace will not be available. No we can't imagine the fullness of God's heart on it, but He gives us the following to consider to attempt to imagine:
1. He sent His son as the propitiation for the sin of everyone who ever has or ever will walk the face of the earth. All are forgiven. Not all will accept His forgiveness. That disrespects and angers God because for them, Jesus died unnecessarily.
2. Read Revelation to get an idea of how the sin of the world makes God feel. His wrath is not hateful it is righteous, and it is utterly consuming.

Wow, I've never thought of it that way before. It really is a slap in the face to Jesus when they reject Him and His gift.

 

[Saintscruiser]

Ummm wow....imho, it IS a terrible thing when you "flaunt" your nice life around

Perhaps instead of wishing jesus would come now while drinking hot chocolate in front of a fire, volunteer and actually make a difference instead of waiting and hoping for jesus to do it

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For all intents and purposes, I have a nice life as well......nice home, great husband, etc., but lets look closer....oh yes, I'm disabled and live in pain every day of my life. Srt, you missed the whole point. She meant for others who suffer.....the ones she can't help....the ones on tv that you see that makes your heart melt and your eyes well up with tears. You were the judge and jury on that one without knowing the facts. A bit harsh, wouldn't you say?

And yes, Lisa, I'm ready! I want to see my Jesus so bad. Just a touch from His hand. Yes, Dear Jesus, come soon!

 

[LisaLisa]

For all intents and purposes, I have a nice life as well......nice home, great husband, etc., but lets look closer....oh yes, I'm disabled and live in pain every day of my life. Srt, you missed the whole point. She meant for others who suffer.....the ones she can't help....the ones on tv that you see that makes your heart melt and your eyes well up with tears. You were the judge and jury on that one without knowing the facts. A bit harsh, wouldn't you say?

And yes, Lisa, I'm ready! I want to see my Jesus so bad. Just a touch from His hand. Yes, Dear Jesus, come soon!

AMEN sister!!!!!!!!!!

 

[eHuman]

When we see others suffer we go through a variety of emotions. Compassion, anger, helplessness, fear, concern, and others. I think that we are sharing the heart of God during these times, that these kind of genuine emotions reflect Him and also serve to properly guide and motivate prayer.


It is not a sin to be well off. Abraham was filthy rich by our standards, as was many others. "Not many who are rich will enter the kingdom" refers to the difficulty in bringing a person who is already rich to God, not the impossibility. Many a poor and rich person alike understand that we are stewards of God's possessions, not our own. It doesn't mean we have to find ways to give everything away. It means that if we see a need and are able to help then we do so.

God wants us to enjoy the blessing of gain while we have it not feel guilt over it but understand that it might be required to be given up at any time.

Paul said Phil 4:12-13
12 I know how to get along with humble means, and I also know how to live in prosperity; in any and every circumstance I have learned the secret of being filled and going hungry, both of having abundance and suffering need.
13 I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.

While we Christian's share on this public forum, not everyone who drops in to listen will love God, and some will outright hate Him. We must do the best that we can to not take offense (while I point my finger I have three more pointing back to myself) and strike out or become indignant or angry. Vengeance is mine says the Lord. and, consider yourself bless to be ridiculed or suffer for His name sake.

 

[rfun6]

Even so come quickly, Lord Jesus.

 

[eHuman]

Maranatha an Amen

 

[Mr.Mad]

Hey Mr. Mad! Glad you finally stopped in here, what took you so long brother?????????

I dunno sometimes I walk in circles... At least I made it!!!!!


I get chill bums even if its hot outside when I witness to others. Thats how I know Im finally doing the right thing..

 

[eHuman]

Crop circles?

 

[o4_srt]

Wouldn't the return of Jesus today mark millions who are not saved in the spirit for eternal damnation and suffering? Wouldn't it be better to postpone his return until all who can have salvation, have it?

Jesus' return is only going to mark the end of suffering for those who know him. Everyone else is condemned to eternal suffering. Which is worse? Him returning tomorrow, saving millions, or him returning down the road, and saving billions?

Those who know him and going to be with him in the end, no matter how long they suffer, they take solace in that. Those who don't, will suffer forever.

So no, I don't think my previous comment is off-base, it is a terrible thing to want him to return tomorrow, because many, many more will suffer for eternity

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[Saintscruiser]

That is exactly His plan....to a point. When the last person gets saved that willingly accepts Him as their personal Lord and Savior, Bam....we're outta here.

There will still be those saved during the Tribulation. God sends 144,000 Jewish Billy Grahams out to the world, witnessing for Him. SRT, you can't make people accept Jesus. It has to be done willingly or not at all. People know.....people have heard.... people have refused, people think they still have time.....or can bargain with God once the rapture's past because they are good people. They will have had every chance and will be held accountable for turning Him down, because they heard the truth and they refused it. It's very sad indeed, because even though there will be millions that say no, Jesus still covered their earthly sin at Calvary. Now that's not fair, but He had to do it that way, because it was for everybody or nobody. Nothing inbetween.

 

[o4_srt]

That is exactly His plan....to a point. When the last person gets saved that willingly accepts Him as their personal Lord and Savior, Bam....we're outta here.

There will still be those saved during the Tribulation. God sends 144,000 Jewish Billy Grahams out to the world, witnessing for Him. SRT, you can't make people accept Jesus. It has to be done willingly or not at all. People know.....people have heard.... people have refused, people think they still have time.....or can bargain with God once the rapture's past because they are good people. They will have had every chance and will be held accountable for turning Him down, because they heard the truth and they refused it. It's very sad indeed, because even though there will be millions that say no, Jesus still covered their earthly sin at Calvary. Now that's not fair, but He had to do it that way, because it was for everybody or nobody. Nothing inbetween.

not everyone has heard.....isn't that the point of missionaries, televangelists, and witnessing?

if everyone that was going to accept the faith has done so, Jesus WOULD be here tomorrow. but you cannot say that everyone has heard the gospel at this point in time.

the fact is, the OP wants jesus to return to end suffering, but the return of jesus will mean suffering for millions who don't accept him. There will be suffering either way, some will suffer temporarily, some for eternity. Jesus' return will NOT end suffering, like the OP originally stated.

 

[Saintscruiser]

SRT, you have to remember that everyone had a chance. If there is a person that the Lord knows is going to get saved in deepest darkest MS, TX, or Africa, He'll get someone there. Everyone, believe it or not, has a special place in their hearts that only God can fill. Everyone from every tribe, whether American Indian, bush tribes, or us know that there is Someone who is more powerful than they are. TV broadcasts in a high number of countries.....like you said, missionaries from all churches.....it's rampant and the Gospel is widely told in all countries.

The difference between the suffering now and the suffering to come is that the saved and redeemed children of God will not live on earth to receive God's wrath. And the weird thing is, why would anyone turn down salvation? It happens everyday and these people will stand in front of Jesus, giving account of their sins. God is/and has given ample time for people to accept Him. I honestly can't picture life without Him. Even if there were only the here and now, and no eternity, I would still choose Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior. I can't stand the fact that I'm separated from Him now.

True story. One evening when my husband and I took our 4-legged babies outside to go potty, I looked up into the heavens at the gorgeous night sky and said: "Lord, please come and get us now.....please? He answered me: "Do you want the blood on your head of the ones that could have been saved because the timing wasn't right?" I told Him in no uncertain terms: "I'm going to shut up now!" It will happen in His time, not ours. However, we still yearn for Him now.

 

[chimney55]

Awesome post, sister! I too long to go "home"---for a variety of reasons. (not necessarily in this order)

1) the depravity of the human race along with the atrocities committed against others (especially children) and seeing that it is going backwards instead of forward.

2) the feeling that I'm no longer "at home" in the place where I grew up. I'm well over 50 years old now and the changes (for the worse) that I've seen in my lifetime are unbelievable!

3) I want to be in the presence of my Lord, savior, and king! To live in a place where justice reigns for all, not just some. To be free from the sins of others and my own sin nature! Never to have to go through another presidential campaign and election.

 

[LisaLisa]

So no, I don't think my previous comment is off-base, it is a terrible thing to want him to return tomorrow, because many, many more will suffer for eternity

It's not the Jesus part of the comment that was offensive, it was the other part. But, whatever.........

 

[LisaLisa]

Jesus' return will NOT end suffering, like the OP originally stated.

He will end the suffering on earth, is what I said.

 

[eHuman]

04_srt, One of your points is valid:

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

Rom 11:25
... that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in;

But Longing for the return of Jesus: is spoken of:

Rom 8:23
And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.

1 Cor 1:7
so that you are not lacking in any gift, awaiting eagerly the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Phil 3:201 Cor 1:7
For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ;

2 Pet 3:121 Cor 1:7
looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!

We don't wish that Jesus would come early and that some will be lost who wouldn't be as a result of it. We long for all that will be saved to be so that Jesus can come and take us home.

Is it odd that we would want to have all of this behind us and be in Heaven with our Lord? No.

But understanding that while we are still here, there is much to do in His name, we still cry (from revelation 22) Come Lord Jesus, come!

 

[eHuman]

The Gospel is offensive to who?
Those who are perishing.

A Christian is offended at another desiring to be with the Lord? No.

Lack of wisdom or understanding, and lack of maturity causing a Christian to be offended? Yes that happens from time to time. It happens to me.