Is it "bad" to pre-mix unflavored ejuice?

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Once my wife and me were buying some item with price exactly $100 in a department store (Dillards). There was a promotion, 10% off. A cashier had a problem with his register, he cannot figure out what !0% of $100 is. He went to look for a calculator, we waited about 10 minutes so he can figure out an answer on this mathematical problem. It was quite an experience for us. It was our first year in America.
 

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Once my wife and me were buying some item with price exactly $100 in a department store (Dillards). There was a promotion, 10% off. A cashier had a problem with his register, he cannot figure out what !0% of $100 is. He went to look for a calculator, we waited about 10 minutes so he can figure out an answer on this mathematical problem. It was quite an experience for us. It was our first year in America.

That cashier is not a candidate for DIY ejuice, but vendors who sell juice will appreciate his continued business!
 

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Once my wife and me were buying some item with price exactly $100 in a department store (Dillards). There was a promotion, 10% off. A cashier had a problem with his register, he cannot figure out what !0% of $100 is. He went to look for a calculator, we waited about 10 minutes so he can figure out an answer on this mathematical problem. It was quite an experience for us. It was our first year in America.

So true! Or when you buy something for $15.17, hand them a $20 and 17 cents, and watch them go crazy trying to figure out how to ring it up or figure your change! I actually had one hand me back 4 $1 bills and exactly a dollar in change. And count back your change to what you gave them? Forgettaboutit!

But they can operate a smartphone quickly and flawlessly!
 

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My wife and I went though a Burger King drive through early one morning and pulled up to the order station. Someone came on the speaker and said that they couldn't sell anything because the computer was down.

I pulled around to the window and asked the girl if she could take cash. No, the cash registers are down. I mentioned that an old fashioned substitute was a cigar box with some change and bills. She looked at me like I was crazy! I guess she never tried a lemonade stand in front of her house as a kid ...

We went across the street to McDonalds ...

The world has become enslaved by automation.
 
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Guess we should keep this in mind before typing "anybody can build coils or DIY."
Anyone that wants to learn how can. I bet they could even learn how to make change if they were properly motivated. :D
 

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Well, since I just finished clearing a bunch of that white stuff and my hands are not cooperating, let me see if I can do this with brevity. In the context of counting change.....

First, it is correct and I agree, one must "want to learn." With little or no "need to learn" and/or consequences for not learning, what's left to encourage one to "want to learn?" If one can get through school, into adulthood, and into the workforce without being able to count change, why would they ever be inclined to take their time to learn? And now that most customers don't even care if they are counted out their change, obviously most businesses don't see a need to have clerks that can actually count change.

As far a "proper motivation", I can't imagine a better motivational factor then being able to count change or find another job. Or how about count change or you don't go on to 7th grade. But even if it was learned in school, if businesses are evidently willing to forego counting change in the interest of speed and the vast majority of customers don't care, nobody really cares.

But is actually counting out your change the "old way" worth the discussion? The actual act of counting it out probably is not. But what is, or should be important to all businesses and customers is the ability to count change. And that can only be displayed by actually doing it. Punching numbers into a machine is not an infallible process, mistakes can be made. It's pretty hard to catch any mistakes if just taking that handful of money and sticking it in your pocket. For the most part, when I hand the clerk cash for a purchase, I already know exactly what I should get back for change. The fun part is when they give you too much change, you try to tell them, and they argue that they are right. And that has happened on more then one occasion and I happily walk away letting them think I am the idiot.

Oops! :oops: So much for brevity! But I can count change! :p
 

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There are numerous ways to "properly motivate" people. :w00t:
The wording of this just screams RED FLAG!
to me.

See-- this implies that they expect something in return immediately for their efforts. Education can come in many forms but, imo, this has been used to the point of making any up and coming generation greedy and just flat out lazy. But you are right----we are waaaayy "off topic".

I did actually have 'someone' tell me--that they don't want to know 'how' something works and they don't want to read to find the solution....Just tell them the answer. Scarey......

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See-- this implies that they expect something in return immediately for their efforts.
Why immediately? Immediate return is certainly not what motivated me to learn to build and mix. What motivated me was to be be FDA-proof, should that ever be necessary. So far (3 years in) it has not been necessary, but it sure feels good knowing that I am. :)

I did actually have 'someone' tell me--that they don't want to know 'how' something works and they don't want to read to find the solution....Just tell them the answer. Scarey......
That's an entirely foreign mindset to me. I've always wanted to understand how things work, especially the things I interact with.

The only thing I've given up on trying to understand is.... Women. :lol:
 
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Why immediately? Immediate return is certainly not what motivated me to learn to build and mix. What motivated me was to be be FDA-proof, should that ever be necessary. So far (3 years in) it has not been necessary, but it sure feels good knowing that I am. :)


That's an entirely foreign mindset to me. I've always wanted to understand how things work, especially the things I interact with.

The only thing I've given up on trying to understand is women. :lol:
I was mostly referring to the younger generations. Us 'oldies' but 'goodies' have been educated to the point of thinking for ourselves, becoming solid contributing members of society. Whereas, sometimes, the attitudes of the younger generations is they feel we owe them 'something'.

I wasn't picking on your post. Perhaps I read it as immediate because of a couple of my recent encounters and that is what came to mind.

I totally agree about the foreign mindset.....I don't understand it either, other than expanding on what I mentioned above.


And I ,too, have given up on understanding 'men'.
:)
 

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I am wondering if I should wait until I'm ready to add flavorings or if I can go ahead and mix some unflavored juice? Or is it better to always mix with fresh ingredients?
Yes it's bad. Real bad. For me that is. :D My percentage of flavorings varies anywhere from say 6% for my Ice Peppermint #4 to 20 to 25% for NET PG concentrates, so a premix base just won't work.
 

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I'm all over the map. Just can't be contained lol. If you use the same flavoring percentage you're good to go premix. I had to give a response to match your thread title, your question titles often make me laugh :D

[emoji4]Glad I can provide something of worth after all that I take from my seemingly endless questions!
 

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Guess we should keep this in mind before typing "anybody can build coils or DIY."

As technically oriented as I am, I was a little frustrated with my new Coilmaster 4. It kept dropping the wire and over-wrapping coils on top of each other. I fussed with it until I found a post here on ECF that said the screw comes in installed in outer hole for heavy wire. For 26ga and smaller you have to move the screw to the inner hole.

That solved the problem, but how many would search out a solution or just return it for a refund (after they retrieved it from the backyard where they threw it in frustration)?

That little tip was in the instruction video, but who watches those intently? Most of us just flip through the boring parts to get to the stuff we want to see. I did!
 
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