Is it bad to premix a ton of flavorless nic juice to use as base?

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I'm about to order the fixins to come out with 400+ ml of flavorless e-liquid to use as a base for flavors. I'm hoping I can have one big bottle of premixed nic juice to deal with (instead of 3), that I can just pour out of and add flavoring to as I need to. Is this OK to do? Figuring the nic wouldn't be as toxic to handle each time if it were pre-diluted, right? Plus I think it would be easier and less hassle if I could just measure the flavoring and top it off with premixed base.

This would be about 4 months' worth and I don't see my needs or preferences changing any time soon (they've been the same forever). Here's what I'm getting:
• 60 ml - 60 mg nic in 100% PG
• 250 ml - PG
• 120 ml - VG
The flavors I like are in 100% PG, and I usually like about 20% flavoring.
So using ejuice Me Up, if I mixed the three bottles (nic, PG, VG), that would take me to around 77.6PG/22.4VG at 6.7 mg by the time I add in the flavoring. My preferred range is 80/20 - 70/30 at 6-8 mg, so even if I end up putting in less flavor, I would probably still be safe, right?

If this is OK to do, I was thinking of storing it in a dark 750 ml wine bottle with one of these Zyliss stopper things (haha, I use it for beer and it always stays bubbly, even after a few months - I know, I'm a wimp at home):
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Then I can put the bottle in a black sock or something, or wrap it in foil (to keep the light out), and store it in the freezer (next to my vodka). I have a couple of cobalt blue Boston Round bottles too. I could use those instead.

Good idea? Bad idea?
 

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That's what I do. I don't know whether it's ok or not. But, I do it just the same. I mix up a big batch of unflavored and store it in a left over blue bottle from a previous order of nic.

Makes life a lot simpler.

I have grandkids in the house. So, I keep it up in a top cabinet where they can't reach.
 

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I bought a liter of 100 mg/ml and recanted into smaller amber bottles with european stoppers. These go in the freezer. One stays out to premix all my base, which I do in batches of about 60 ml BUT:

when you mix like this you MUST account for the addition of flavoring or your final mix will be lighter by the percentage of your flavorings.
 

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I bought a liter of 100 mg/ml and recanted into smaller amber bottles with european stoppers. These go in the freezer. One stays out to premix all my base, which I do in batches of about 60 ml BUT:

when you mix like this you MUST account for the addition of flavoring or your final mix will be lighter by the percentage of your flavorings.

I buy the 24mg NIC in VG, and then add PG to mix to 22.5mg. That way, if I use 20% flavor, then it puts me right at 18mg. If I use less than 20% flavor, I just add PG to get it to 18mg. I don't do more than 20% in anything.
 

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I'm about to order the fixins to come out with 400+ ml of flavorless e-liquid to use as a base for flavors. I'm hoping I can have one big bottle of premixed nic juice to deal with (instead of 3), that I can just pour out of and add flavoring to as I need to. Is this OK to do? Figuring the nic wouldn't be as toxic to handle each time if it were pre-diluted, right? Plus I think it would be easier and less hassle if I could just measure the flavoring and top it off with premixed base.

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Making Pre-Mix is a Great Idea for All the Reasons you mentioned.

As for the Wine Stopper. I guess it would work. You have to be Careful with Plastics Leaching Chemicals into e-Liquids. But since it is made to be used with Wine, which is Acidic, I imagine it should be OK.
 

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Making Pre-Mix is a Great Idea for All the Reasons you mentioned.

As for the Wine Stopper. I guess it would work. You have to be Careful with Plastics Leaching Chemicals into e-Liquids. But since it is made to be used with Wine, which is Acidic, I imagine it should be OK.

I would think so also, but does this stopper get the air out? The air will oxidize nicotine which is why (when I read up on storing it) it was recommended to put it into the smaller bottles, less opening and shutting and less air left in the bottle. But until you get some, I think it would work for the reasons zoi said.
 

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I would think so also, but does this stopper get the air out? The air will oxidize nicotine which is why (when I read up on storing it) it was recommended to put it into the smaller bottles, less opening and shutting and less air left in the bottle. But until you get some, I think it would work for the reasons zoi said.

I'm of this School also. I like to use a Couple of Smaller Containers versus One Large Container.

If you Drop or Spill a Smaller Glass Container you Only Lose that amount. Not All of it. Or if you want to Change something down the road, you have a Small, Known amount to work with. There is also the Air Exposure of using a Large Container and Opening it up Constantly.
 
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