Is it time to upgrade to a mod?

[Tenac87]

Hello everyone! Let's start you off with a little bit of backstory, I started off my vaping journey with a KGO starter kit, It was love at first vape and I went from a pack of smokes every couple of days to not a single one once that delicious vapor hit my tongue. I was pretty happy with it for the first week or so while my lungs cleared out and I got used to vaping. And this is where I hit my downfall, As I got more and more used to vaping I found the throathit which started out so excellent quickly escaped my grasped. and I felt that it was time to move on to bigger and better things.

Next up I went to a Vision Twist 2, The improved everything was amazing at first, Variable Voltage was lovely, and my new Kanger Evod tanks worked like a dream come true. I started off using just 3.8 Volts but quickly moved up to my battery never leaving 4.8 unless I got a burnt taste, The throat hit lasted for a long time but once again, as I got more and more used to the Spinner, the throat hit got farther and farther away.

Instead of jumping up to another new battery I decided to try different tanks, CE4's was what came with the KGO and they were pretty awful on the twist. The Evods I loved, so I wanted to stick with them, I picked up some TS3's and these little guys worked wonders for a while, But once again throat hit kept eluding me. I've tried higher nic contents, different brands and kinds of juices anything I could think of. But nothing lasts forever.

My latest accuisition was a Nautilus Mini, After reading all the reviews online I couldn't say no. This sounded like it would be the answer to all my dreams. I've had it for a few days now, Vapor Production is great on it but throat hit is rather lackluster I find. I haven't gotten a hit as good as my T3's while I was getting used to them and tastes leaves something to be desired. At first I blamed the Tank, But now I'm beginning to feel like it's not actually the problem. That perhaps the problem i'm having, is the twist. It's almost feeling like the nautilus has potential within it, That the Twist just can't bring out. "If I can only turn the volts a little further I would be at a nice spot"

And that leads us to right now. Is it time for me to upgrade my Twist and buy myself a mod? Will doing so finally get me that throat hit I long after so? Or is it going to be another fancy new toy that will leave me disappointed after a while?

If the answer to upgrade is a big yes! Where should I go? What should I upgrade too? I'd rather not spend too much as I feel like this hobby of mine is starting to grow out of hand. I've heard many great things about the MVP 2.0 Would this be a worthwhile investment? Or should I aim myself and my aspirations elsewhere?

Thanks for reading this and any help you may offer me!

TL : DR - Throat hit eludes me, Think it's time to upgrade from my Vision Spinner 2 and enter the wonderfull world of mods. Is it worth it and what should I get? I heard good things about the MVP 2.0

 

[Susan~S]

I've heard many great things about the MVP 2.0 Would this be a worthwhile investment?

The MVP v2 is a great upgrade (I have and still use several of them daily)! You can purchase it online for around $40 shipped.

 

[Tenac87]

Thanks for the reply Susan! Rereading everything I wrote, It sounds like I keep upgrading, and each upgrade is better then what I had so starts off great. But each new piece falls below what i'm trying to achieve through vaping.

Would you say the MVP V2 would allow me to finally reach a level I can be happy, and hopefully stay at?

 

[Susan~S]

Would you say the MVP V2 would allow me to finally reach a level I can be happy, and hopefully stay at?

That would really depend on you. If you ever get into rebuildable atomizers you may want either a mechanical mod or a variable v/w DNA30 type of devise as well.

I have a few mechanical mods and even though I do love them, they are limited by the resistance of the coil on my atomizer. So if I want to vary my power I have to either rebuild my coil or switch my RBA/RTA. I have held off buying more mechanical mods for this reason.

My next purchase will be a high power variable v/w mod. I'm just waiting to see what is coming down the pipeline and looking for a high quality sturdy box mod. I would absolutely love to see this in an REO Woodvil (one that would accommodate many different bottom feeding drippers)!

I still use my MVP's (I have 4) as I have many mini PT's, PT's and a few Nautilius's. They all have airflow control and still serve me well. I do not have an "all day vape" and regularly vape 15+ different flavors in a day.

* Note: You can use a RBA/RTA on a MVP. It you do, you just need to build your coils above 1 ohm. I use my Kayfun and Taifun GS on my MVP with builds around 1.5 -1.8 ohms due to their smaller airflow hole.

 

[wv2win]

The MVP has a limitation of 11 watts, unfortunately. The SVD goes to a full 15 watts which can be important if you decide to use dual coils or low ohm equipment to get better warmth/throat hit. The Vamo is another option.

 

[Racehorse]

TL : DR - Throat hit eludes me,

Throat hit is mainly a function of the nic level and the PG level. Higher PG and higher nic = more throat hit.

Next thing down the line would be delivery device.

If you reallly want to *taste* things, and your PG and NIC levels are such that they will deliver the throat hit you desire, then you really should consider an RBA and something like a bottom feeder. If you're not sure, then just buy an over the counter atty from Cisco in a low resistance and drip into it for a while (that will give you *some* idea of what a bottom feeder w/atty would deliver).

A "mod" would be the last variable for "throat hit", IMHO. I've owned everything including provari. They are just batteries, i.e the power source.

So BEFORE you run out and start buying stuff, can we know your PG ratio and nic level?

 

[Racehorse]

^^^^ the reason I say this is because, even with a spinner turned up to 4.7v, (highest it goes) with a delivery device of about 2.4ohm - 2.8ohm, you're vaping at 8-9 Watts.

That would be the exact same thing as buying a mod that delivers 6v, and using a 4.5ohm-4.0ohm delivery device. You'd still be vaping at 8-9 Watts.

Personally, I want to be kind to my esophagus and throat, as years of smoking has not enhanced their health much. The key to vaping AFAIC is to get the best vape at the lowest temperature you can use to get that best vape. I truly believe that that will be had with a careful consideration of your pg/vg ratio, nic level and actual delivery device....., but I'm sure many will disagree with me.

Throat hit does not = *heat*. As a matter of fact, there are many juices where the flavor will just not be very good at all with extra *heat*. It ruins many vapes AFAIC.

Truth: Despite all this new sub ohm stuff and high battery power, there are way more people on this forum who have been *happily* vaping away without going to any of those things. They have figured out what juices taste best at what wattage, and have found a sweet spot with equipment.

 

[Rat2chat2]

to ecf Tenac87. The mvp2 is a very easy to use, dependable and has a fantastic battery life. Like many others, I have tried several different things and thought that was just how it was always going to be. But I got into dripping and really enjoy it because the flavors are so more pronounced. Six months ago I would have still been thinking about what I wanted to try next but I started using a reo grand (because it is the ultimate dripper IMO) and I now feel like this is my happy vaping place and I will be using a reo for as long as I plan on vaping. My point is that when you find something that you are very happy with, you will know it. I wish you luck and happy vaping.

 

[realsis]

If you want a mod you can grow into, with less limitations and some of the newer technology may I suggest the ipv2 50 watt box mod. This mod has the yihi sx330 v2 chip onboard. It has touch firing as well as traditional firing. It's a lot lighter than the mvp2. You can actually sub ohm with this mod down to .2. It has variable wattage and voltage is controlled by the chip. You can adjust the wattage in increments of one which is very nice. It displays battery, ohms, volts and watts. It's very well made and will offer a consistent vape up to 50 watts. You can definitely GROW into this mod. It has less limitations than other mods such as a resistance limitation. It's limitation is .2 sub ohm and that's pretty low. Most other mods that are regulated offer a resistance down to 1.0 or above. So If YOU Plan On Learning To Do builds in The Future an Want Something Less restricting this would be a great mod for you. Especially if you want to vape over 15 watts or sub ohm vape. This will give you room to grow. It goes for about 110. Dollars. But honestly worth every penny. It really depends on what your looking for in your vaping journey. This mod will allow more advanced vaping. If you are not interested in sub ohm vaping and you don't really think you will want to be doing builds in the future and are not interested in a higher wattage vape, then the mvp2 would be a better choice for you. The mvp2 is a good solid device with excellent battery lifeel and is a perfect beginning mod. It just depends on what YOU are looking for. Both these devices are very good and neither will disapoint.

 

[RaceGun59]

Throat hit is a function of nicotine level and PG/VG ratio.
You should try differant mixes of PG/VG to see if you get to that throat hit you want.
Devices alone will not get you that big throat hit.
I use 80PG/20VG mix. I was t 18 mg nicotine, but have reduced it to 12 mg nicotine and I still get a good throat hit.

 

[pwheeler]

A big + for what Rat2chat2 said. Sounds to me like you are after a good throat hit that many of these tanks leave you lacking. My suggestion is a Reo Grand LP. It will accept a number of bottom feed drippers. You can build your own coils well into sub ohm territory for that desired blast in your throat! And the flavors produced by dripping are far more pronounced. All vv or vw devices are limited on how you build your coils, most of them won't fire if you get down too low. Even a dna30 device, while regulated to 30w will give you 30w longer than a mechanical, but, like mine, I have one with dual coils at .5ohms and on a full charge I'm at 35W. Even after vaping for a good part of the day, my battery will be at 3.7V, so I am vaping at 27.5W. Still plenty sufficient for a powerful vape. Swap batteries, and your at full blast again. Plus, with a Reo, you don't drip. It carries 6ml of juice onboard, so you will be good to go all day. This, in my opinion is the ultimate and will always be in my aresenal as long as I am vaping.

 

[Tenac87]

Thanks to everyone for all the replies! It's one of the many reasons I love this place so much. Everyones always so happy to lend another person a hand. I truly appreciate it.

As far as my ratios go, I'm usually using either 50/50 or 70/30 (PG) at 24mg of Nic. I live in Canada and haven't been able to find anywhere that offers 100% PG Liquids as of yet, So I haven't had the pleasure of trying those out. I can't see them making THAT much more of a difference over 70/30 though, Can it?

To answer your question realsis, I don't have any plans on getting into doing builds as of yet. I feel like there's a lot more I need to learn before attempting to get into any of that. And I don't know if I even have the patience or time to get really into it. Haha : )

Budget is also another concern to me, As lovely as it would be I can't really justify dropping hundreds of dollars into this. Especially being Canadian and having everything be more expensive up here (It's a good thing the service is EXCELLENT )