Is my setup good ?

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sumiquatchim

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As some others have already stated, since you are very new to this I would suggest that you start with a single coil.

Thanks !!!
I also went to vapor dna and got 10 microcoils (ready at 0.5 ohms) comes with 10 pre wrapped ones :)

Just wondering if my stillare,batteries at full and a sting ray could take it on.
 

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Read through the links in this thread... from the questions that you are asking, you still have a lot to learn before you get into sub-ohm territory. You are trying to get into the most dangerous part of vaping without really understanding what that entails... I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it, but you NEED to understand what you are doing and why things work the way they work before you do it. Good job on doing enough research to figure out which equipment you need.... but that isn't enough, now you need the knowledge base to be able to use that equipment... I personally would not trust that I would be able to gather enough information from random people online in an hour to be able to do this safely... continue your research and make sure that you understand it before you get into sucking on a pipe bomb... PLEASE?!?

The first question that I would have for you is: "Exactly WHY do you want to sub-ohm?"
 

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Read through the links in this thread... from the questions that you are asking, you still have a lot to learn before you get into sub-ohm territory. You are trying to get into the most dangerous part of vaping without really understanding what that entails... I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it, but you NEED to understand what you are doing and why things work the way they work before you do it. Good job on doing enough research to figure out which equipment you need.... but that isn't enough, now you need the knowledge base to be able to use that equipment... I personally would not trust that I would be able to gather enough information from random people online in an hour to be able to do this safely... continue your research and make sure that you understand it before you get into sucking on a pipe bomb... PLEASE?!?

The first question that I would have for you is: "Exactly WHY do you want to sub-ohm?"

Ive been trying to stop smoking hookah. Its been 2 years.
And the only reason i smoke is for vapor/steam/smoke. And then i got introduced to vaping.
I get that i should never stack batteries and never use a not fully charged battery and to switch out batteries when i feel like the vapor production and taste is decreasing.
Never overcharge batteries
Positive end goes towards the atty
Use imr cell batteries such as efest and sony 18650.
If anyone has a simplified version of this please introduce it to me.
 

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Ive been trying to stop smoking hookah. Its been 2 years.
And the only reason i smoke is for vapor/steam/smoke. And then i got introduced to vaping.
I get that i should never stack batteries and never use a not fully charged battery and to switch out batteries when i feel like the vapor production and taste is decreasing.
Never overcharge batteries
Positive end goes towards the atty
Use imr cell batteries such as efest and sony 18650.
If anyone has a simplified version of this please introduce it to me.

I understand... still doesn't answer the question of Why Sub-ohm? You can get plenty of vapor at 1.8 ohms on a VV/VW mod. I would suggest that you get a simple to rebuild coil system for single coil builds to get used to the concept before jumping straight to mechanical mods and RDAs... get familiar with ohm's law, multi-meter usage, proper coil wrapping/mounting technique... moving from a simple eGo Twist (with I'm going to assume clearomizers or carts) to RDAs and mechs is just asking for trouble until you do enough research that you fully understand every aspect of what you are building. Knowing which way to insert the battery and which battery to use is insufficient information. That's like saying that knowing how to start a car and put it in gear means that you know how to drive.....
 

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I completely agree with what Kaezziel said.

You need to know more than that about battery safety. Until you understand Ohm's Law, you really shouldn't be in sub-ohm land.

I suggest you familiarize yourself with the following to begin with: Ohm's Law explained in layman terms. And here's another good write-up: Ohm's Law for Dummies.
 

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Cloud chasing is cool and whatnot, but after a few 0.28 and 0.35 builds, it was too much. Having to CONSTANTLY re drip, watch the battery voltage so I don't over discharge, and swapping and rotating batteries. Then I found out how to make a .70ohm dual coil makes as much vapor as my 0.28 build but with way less heat and more vapor. Wicking efficiency is the key to best vapor production and flavor. Now my batteries last wayy longer, re drip every 20 or so draws, and my mod and tip doesn't get all hot.
 
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To put it simply know your batteries limitations. Every battery has them. You will need to know ohms law to figure out if your coil build is pushing those limitations. Use your ohm reader, do the math, it's very very important. If you don't and go past the limitations of your battery it will start a chemical process of venting and sometimes can't be stopped once started. If the battery is left to vent it can explode. So first and foremost know ohms law and your batteries limit.
 

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What build should i go for to get to atleast .5 ohms(coil build) ? i dont want a short :/

To get .5 ohms you're going to need to get some regular a1 kanthal and higher gauge wire, g plat has much lower resistance than kanthal does and to try to get the resistance up will need a lot more wraps and a larger diameter to build on making the coil a lot less efficient.
 

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I completely agree with what Kaezziel said.

You need to know more than that about battery safety. Until you understand Ohm's Law, you really shouldn't be in sub-ohm land.

I suggest you familiarize yourself with the following to begin with And here's another good write-up:
So your telling me that my resistance of my mod and battery should be able to take the resistance of my coils. Because if too much is fed to the battery it will explode and that if i go below 3.7 volts my battery will stop working. The more the heat means the less the resistance and so on. correct me if im wrong or missing something.
 

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It seems that 0.5 ohms will be enough, can someone give me a exact gauge and setup i need. And then i believe the stillare is going to be ok.
Use that calculator. I use that like every time I wrap a coil. It will tell you how many wraps you need, if you know the gauge of wire and inside diameter of the coil.

You know how to test for shorts right?
 

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I just want to say that this is one of those threads that scares me on behalf of the OP. PLEASE PLEASE read up on battery safety, even if you think you know it inside and out, learn more. As far as "clouds" are concerned, my neighbor was a hooka user as well and switched to 0mg vaping, so he was after "clouds" more than anyhting else. He has a Stringray clone and a Tobh atty that he now wraps around .4Ω. I have a Hana mini clone, dual 32g wrapped totaling 1.7Ω and he hates that I produce bigger "clouds" than him. It's all about your build and juice. Please start higher and work to lower as you learn, if you still feel you need to. This doesn't benefit any of us, only you.
 

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I just want to say that this is one of those threads that scares me on behalf of the OP. PLEASE PLEASE read up on battery safety, even if you think you know it inside and out, learn more. As far as "clouds" are concerned, my neighbor was a hooka user as well and switched to 0mg vaping, so he was after "clouds" more than anyhting else. He has a Stringray clone and a Tobh atty that he now wraps around .4Ω. I have a Hana mini clone, dual 32g wrapped totaling 1.7Ω and he hates that I produce bigger "clouds" than him. It's all about your build and juice. Please start higher and work to lower as you learn, if you still feel you need to. This doesn't benefit any of us, only you.
Thank you very much.
I was actually searching on about the dna 30 devices by cloupor and i might be switching to that. They do not allow you to go below 0.3ohms and that the have battery safety.
What do you recommend for me ?
 

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Thank you very much.
I was actually searching on about the dna 30 devices by cloupor and i might be switching to that. They do not allow you to go below 0.3ohms and that the have battery safety.
What do you recommend for me ?

Glad we reeled you back in from the depths of danger! :D Personally, I have the mini clone from Fasttech. There are numerous threads on here that discuss the different clones for it. Browse them and make your own decision. Some people can't stand the Fasttech model, others love it. So far, I am loving mine. If it decides it wants to be junk, I don't mind being out $56. lol

Here is the thread for the Fasttech buyers.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-hana-modz-dna-30-clone-arrived-today-ft.html
 

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Also, don't be surprised if your first few builds don't give you the vapor production that the guy next to you has with his. He has probably played around with alot of different coil builds and found what works for him. Also, with 30 watts of range at your disposal, you will find different sweet spots with different juices and coil builds. It's like having 1000 different mods at once! :D
 

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Glad we reeled you back in from the depths of danger! :D Personally, I have the mini clone from Fasttech. There are numerous threads on here that discuss the different clones for it. Browse them and make your own decision. Some people can't stand the Fasttech model, others love it. So far, I am loving mine. If it decides it wants to be junk, I don't mind being out $56. lol

Here is the thread for the Fasttech buyers.
So ive decided on a dna 30 by cloupor from vapehappy, and also 1 efest 2600mah 3.7 18650/Stillare clone from ecigitty :D.

But what i didnt get is that, does the dna 30 tell me that i need to charge my batteries with the usb chord? ill also be going for 0.5 and above :/
i hope i still get decent clouds.
 
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