Is my vaping making my dog ill ?

[Jonny2400]

For the last 2 years my dog has been suffering from cysts on his two front paws, we have spend so much money on vets bills, tests, tables etc with no joy. We are at a complete loss, the vets can't seem to help and they are not getting any better, even with his $350 per month tables

this started about 2 years ago when he was aged 2, We have done everything he we can think off to help the poor wee guy, but just today I started thinking, could it be me vaping ?

my logic, is I started vaping around 2 years ago and when I smoked, I only smoked outside the house, and never in my car. But with vaping he sits beside me while I vape away, same in the car, plus I would vape rather a lot more than I ever smoked.

when smoking he would have been in contact with very little nicotine but with vaping, am guessing rather a lot !!

of course am now going to try not to vape near him for a few months to see if there is any improvement, has any one else had any issues with vaping and pets ?

 

[rolygate]

Not heard of this one before. PG is toxic to cats, so it can't be used in catfood (it damages their blood cells), but expert cat owners say that vaping is not an issue because the dose from 2nd hand vapor is too low.

I overheard someone saying that collies (the dog breed) had some sort of poisoning issue with Advocate or Frontline, the parasite meds, when it is harmless to all other breeds and pets AFAIK. So perhaps some breeds have unusual issues.

 

[SissySpike]

My Chiwawa is in my lap while I vape and has had no effects good or bad that I have noticed. Smoking around pets is very bad they lick the stuff that settles in their fur so they not only breath it they ingest it also.
I hope it is vaping that is his issue so for his and your sake the problem will be solved but I doubt it.

 

[Justin Proctor]

There has been studies if im not mistaken that second hand vapor from the e-cig creates little to no nicotine traces. We are talking trace amount like 1 in several thousands % of normal air so i personally wouldn't worry about that. Anyone feel free to correct me, i am a new vapor. As for the PG/VG sorry i haven't read much info about that. Maybe a more experience vapor could advise

Also as buzzlove mentioned my dog is in the same room as me 24/7 atm since the folks went on holiday and i haven't seem any ill effects. She is eating more but i think thats probobly the nerves or something since the family has been away. Even before they left i still vaped in the same room and no problems that i could see.

 

[Heavyrocker]

Does you pooch drink tap water?

 

[anavidfan]

Have you looked into what you use to clean your carpet or the actual chemicals in the carpet itself that makes it stain resistant? I dont even know if you have carpeting.

What makes me think it might not be environmental is the fact that its only the front paws. If it was vape related I would think that it would be less localized as it is.

What are his symptoms? Do they come and go? Sorry for all the questions, I love animals and worked in the healthcare industry so my natural inquisitive nature comes out.

Does he dig? or have a favourite toy he grasps at while he plays? I hope hes comfortable and not in pain.

 

[Myk]

One of my Dachshunds tries to get shotgun hits when exhale vapor.
(<---- that one)
The other one treats it like she expects it to be smoke.
I've never had any direct problem with any animal related to smoking or vaping around them. All house dogs with multiple indoor smokers.

Things I would look at (that you're not mentioning here, vaping would be one) is allergies to things he steps in.
I don't know your vaccination protocol there but here many vets love to overvaccinate and a result seems to be dogs that are hyper allergic to everything, including themselves.
I do know someone on a Dachshund forum from Ireland and her vet came up with some good scare stories about Leptospirosis. That is one of the worst culprits for causing reactions and a very useless vaccine (my previous vet told me it only lasts a few months) compared to the risks.
As I don't know your vaccination protocols or local risks (it made sense to give my hunting dog Lepto while he was an active hunting dog) I don't know what to recommend but you should search "over vaccination dogs". Here the good vets are starting to go to a 3 year schedule or doing antibody tests after the first year.

Quality food (low to no grain) (including homemade) is something else to look into.

Searching "interdigital cysts dogs" should turn up what you are describing.

 

[NotMantis]

i really dont see it as likely that your 3rd hand vapor is effecting your dog at all but you could always switch to 100% pg or vg my border collie doesnt care for my vapor but my wifes dauchtson is all over me when i take a drag saying i wanna try lol

 

[NotMantis]

and my dogs get market fresh catfish with whats left of my steak from dinner lol grocery store had one awesome sale i stalked up

 

[Butters78]

I started vaping at my friends booboo's house and the dog started humpin the lazy boy.

 

[Caridwen]

Front paws seems environmental like some sort of irritant or allergy to some sort of organic matter.

I'd consider getting allergy tests and possibly getting your soil tested.

I doubt if it's vaping related, really hope your dog feels better soon. I had a dog once that was allergic to everything- even grass if you can believe that. It's very frustrating

 

[Rocketpunk]

I for one do not recommend vaping in the direct vicinity of animals. I have two guinea pigs but I don't blow vape clouds around them. I am not a veterinarian, but it's better to be safe than sorry.

I mean that in like they're in your lap and you're blowing vape clouds over them. Don't do that.

But if they're in the same room relaxing comfortably, vape away. Just don't, like, you know, shotgun the vapor into their ears or something like that...

 

[Caridwen]

Someone here (forget who- hope someone remembers) had their birds tested- and no nicotine found. They did find normal air pollutants but nothing related to nicotine/vaping.

 

[ImThatGuy]

Paw Cyst Is Common In Heavy-bodied Dogs - Chicago Tribune

http://www.wiki-pet.com/health/dog/condition/index.php?condition_id=435&name=toe+cysts

Advised by my vet uncle and vet cousin...

 

[jmur]

When I smoked analogs, years ago (OK, only two months ago) one of our cats would always jump on my lap when I lit up and she'd try to inhale. Would literally run across the room to get at it. And she was 16 years old when she started this. When I went digital, after a couple of weeks she does the same thing. I try to keep it away from her, but at least it's got to be better, no? Our Golden Retriever has never shown any desire or dislike for either digital or analog.

 

[DeeDee1234]

My cat hated cigarette smoke, she would jump down as soon as I lit up. She does mind the vapor at all. I don't think the dog is affected by the vapor. IMO

 

[Tache]

There are many possibilities. Food allergies are the first that come to mind. As a previous poster mentioned, you may want to consider grain free or other holistic rations.

Chewing paws, particularly just the fronts, is often a sign of stress. Other than vaping, have there been any other major changes in your household? Have their exercise levels changed? What about mental stimulation? Do they have a "job" (my gang thinks that it is very important to "help" me take hay out to the horse), if so, has that "job" changed? Any new members in your pack - human or otherwise?

There are a few things to look into anyway.

Hope everything clears up soon for you. It's always very distressing when we can't figure out how to make them feel better.

 

[Myrany]

People often laugh at the stress in pets thing making them have odd illnesses/reactions. I can assure you it is no joke.

Starting about 1 year before my divorce and going right though the point my ex moved out my cat was literally ripping her own fur out. She was BALD absolutely everywhere she could reach (that was about 90% of her body). We tried everything the vet suggested. The cone around the neck? Nope she could get out of it in 3 seconds flat. Steroids. You name it.

Ex moved out and the fur started growing back in. She never did it again.

Animals key into us and our life rhythms. Something gets disrupted and make no mistake they DO know.

 

[Racehorse]

I do dog rescue, have seen this --- you did not say what kind of dog you have and it happens more with dogs with eitehr lots of hair growth between toes and if the hair is stiff, i.e., tend to get ingrown.

Make sure your vet has done a full panel THYROID blood test to make sure this isn't the cause. And of course, a skin scraping/bacterial culture on the cysts. He can send those off to pathology to find out the exact type of bacteria involved. It is important to determine the exact nature of the cysts and what bacteria, if any, is involved, otherwise you are just throwing cures at an unknown.

For the cysts I would soak his footsies in 2 parts epsom salts and 1 part Arm & Hammer baking soda (1 cup and 1/2 cup in few gallons of water) Very soothing and tends to clean adn also draw out bad stuff. if he won't stand in the solution placed in the bathtub, just sit with him and a pot of this in warm water, close to room temp, and a washcloth and "bathe" his feet.

Make your dog some chicken + rice or lamb + rice for 21 days and see what happens. home made, not from can or commercial dog food. You can certainly have him sensitivity tested for allergies, but I would try the food thing first, since if his problems resolve then you already know it's in the commercial food. You did not say what you are feeding?

I truly doubt this has anything whatsoever to do with vaping, and is purely coincidental.

 

[Jonny2400]

Does you pooch drink tap water?

I would give him bottled water to drink, Avian as that's what I drink, also my tap water has far to much lime scale, am always descaling things, showers, kettle etc