Is selling e-pipes now illegal

[SteampunkPirate]

I have a used e-pipe I was planning on selling on eBay. Well, I received a call after listing it, just before they pulled the auction. Now I know you can't sell them on eBay. Does not surprise me given how picky they are, although they allow all types of fake crap from China to be listed every day.

Regardless, the eBay representative who called says e-pipes are illegal to sell on the Internet because several states, including Massachusetts, now classify e-pipes as "drug paraphernalia." Not sure how the hell eBay classifies old tobacco pipes although they allow them to be sold.. and you can stuff them with anything you want...lol

I also noticed an overall lack of custom e-pipe sellers on the Internet.

So the question is: are e-pipes illegal to sell on the Internet?

Thanks:

Chance

 

[*paige*]

It isn't... epipemods is up and running, although you might have problems with retailers not wanting to, as these things seem to be confusing have you tried the classifieds here?

 

[john333]

the batts like the ego is being used for things other than vaping.

 

[SteampunkPirate]

It isn't... epipemods is up and running, although you might have problems with retailers not wanting to, as these things seem to be confusing have you tried the classifieds here?

Yea, thanks for the note but I'm not allowed to list anything yet as I still classified as a newbie. I'm in no hurry regardless.

I guess my question was more of an inquiry as to the status of selling e-pipes and why it would be illegal.

Chance

 

[catalinaflyer]

You have to be careful how you list it, how you describe it and you have to put a disclaimer in the description that what your selling has nothing to do with smoking, vaping, nicotine or tobacco. But then all it takes is someone to report it and your starting all over again.

Good Luck, and to answer the base of your original question, no they're not illegal to sell, eBay has just become paranoid and all to quick to ban things.

 

[Thunderball]

Must be just an Ebay thing.

Kinda like...... You can sell WW2 stuff on Ebay, but not with a swastika on it..... Cant sell guns on Ebay....Etc.....

 

[spartanstew]

Must be just an Ebay thing.

Correct.

Although many things get through, technicallly Ebay's policy is not to sell anything e-cig related (and you can't use paypal for e-cig transactions either)

 

[Thrasher]

probably the way you listed it, ebay has a no ecig policy and several people have been slipping things through on there and amazon using creative wording, kinda hard to deny it with the shape of an epipe though.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

I have a used e-pipe I was planning on selling on eBay. Well, I received a call after listing it, just before they pulled the auction. Now I know you can't sell them on eBay. Does not surprise me given how picky they are, although they allow all types of fake crap from China to be listed every day.

Regardless, the eBay representative who called says e-pipes are illegal to sell on the Internet because several states, including Massachusetts, now classify e-pipes as "drug paraphernalia." Not sure how the hell eBay classifies old tobacco pipes although they allow them to be sold.. and you can stuff them with anything you want...lol

I also noticed an overall lack of custom e-pipe sellers on the Internet.

So the question is: are e-pipes illegal to sell on the Internet?

Thanks:

Chance

I've sold plenty of vaping gear on eBay and did not have a problem on any of it. APV's and tanks, etc. For the most part, I used language directly off the manufacturer's listing page. Maybe ten auctions at this point. I have heard the same thing though. No vaping gear on eBay or PayPal, yet I've used both now as I said, about ten times, and wasn't particularly careful about the language either. Good luck to you!

 

[SteampunkPirate]

probably the way you listed it, ebay has a no ecig policy and several people have been slipping things through on there and amazon using creative wording, kinda hard to deny it with the shape of an epipe though.

Yea, even the guy at eBay thought it was stupid that you can sell ecigs, but not epipes because of the shape. I am assuming they do not understand the electronics / mechanics and think you could put something in the bowl and vaporize it like a volcano. What's next.... epipes going to the Supreme Court?...LOL

C.

 

[Steamix]

Well, paypal is rumored not to get involved with e-cig payments, yet I paid my order from China with them - no problems.
Maybe it's the combination of ebay and paypal.
I appreciate their convenience, but I still haven't forgiven them that they - on their own - stopped donations meant for wikileaks.

 

[yzer]

Congratulations! You have just been bullied by big business. Isn't free enterprise wonderful?

 

[lolchris]

Congratulations! You have just been bullied by big business. Isn't free enterprise wonderful?

lol. 'Merica!

 

[Tepid]

Yes, that is free market.
You are free to take you business elsewhere as well.
Not bullied, denied based on that businesses believes, nothing wrong with that.

Find another company or another place to do business with.
You are not obligated to do business with them, and they are not obligated to do business with you.

Where you spend your money will speak more highly and strongly than any legislation.
Legislation only makes one a slave to the companies that act that way.

Put them out of business for not doing business with those that want to do business with them.
It's really a simple concept.

Free Markets are a good thing.

Without the Free Market, where the heck do you think the e-cig community would be?

Yeah, exactly,, in the hands of Big Pharma and Big Tobacco and Big Govt
Talk about bullying? Seriously, think about it.

It's also the reason that everything should be a states rights, as stated in the constitution.
There is a reason why we are in the mess we are in the US.
Called Federalism.

States Rights, you can vote with your feet
Federalism, your owned

 

[Thrasher]

Isn't free enterprise wonderful?

odd, i thought ebay was a privately run site that required membership and accepting rules of service when you sign up. huh, the things you learn..........

 

[RedNBlack]

Steam,
Depends on who is monitoring the Ebay site at the time.
Ebay has a "waffle" policy in effect........

E-Pipes are alive and well.....and as of yet not illegal.....
Hand-Crafted ePipes, custom made personal vaping devices from ePipeMods.com ...more than just an eCig

 

[SteampunkPirate]

I sent an inquiry to Esty, another popular auction site for handmade products.

Here is their reply:

"Thanks for writing in about this. It's a great question! The following items are considered drug paraphernalia on Etsy:

- Electronic cigarettes
- Vaporizers for inhaling electronic cigarettes
- eJuice or eLiquid

That means that e-pipes don't qualify for sale on Etsy. I'm sorry that our marketplace can't accommodate this type of listing. Please let me know if you have any other questions about this, and have a great day."

Best,
Esty

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Interesting how they and others are classifying e-cig and pipes as "drug paraphernalia." LOL

I could buy all the syringes I want off e-Bay, but an e-cigarette or pipe, with no "juice" of any kind is illegal? This is really scary logic.

C.

 

[Tepid]

I agree, that is an alarming statement.
Labeling something as Drug Paraphernalia when there is no real legal term as such, is in my opinion,
a company attempting to use their influence against something they have no business doing.

I would call that a (don't deal with them on anything till they change their tune.)

it's the un-willingness (or the willingness to try and set precedence) of a company to not want to understand a product.
Or, due to the lack of regulation and/or laws governing these devices, to not want to take on liability.

But, Labeling e-cig items as Drug Paraphernalia, IS in fact getting involved.

What is the community going to do about it?
Nothing, they still use Paypal and Paypal has the same message.

Till people take a stand and stop doing business with companies such as PayPal, Ebay, etc.
Nothing is going to change anything.

When I say, dollars speak loudly, it's not a rhetorical statement, dollars really, yes factually, do speak volumes to the bottom line of a company.

Those that refuse to listen will be doomed to failure. As it should be.

But what reason should a company listen, if you are going to keep giving them money
That an affirmation that you are ok with how they conduct business.
Not their fault, that lay squarely and should lay heavily right between the eyes of the consumer.

It is the ONLY reason I am not a supporting member here. I refuse to use Paypal.

Ah yes,, why then do I still come here and post etc.?
Hopefully I can enlighten some people.

 

[ubercrow]

Do any vendors use alternatives to paypal?

 

[Harlen]

I sale on eBay all the time to get rid of my extra things it's called a personnel vaporizer (pipe vaporizer)
Add disclaimer (this is not a tobacco product ) works every time for me.
When I buy supply's I list them as vaporizing Supply's goes thru every time for that is what I am buying .