Is sub ohm really necessary??

[Fittytigsic]

I really dislike the term cloud chasing. I feel like it has a terrible connotation that goes along with it, but who doesn't like to see massive clouds of vapor in front of their face??

So I just recently got an SS Magneto and and octopus rda. I had to drill an extra hole to get my desired amount of airflow(for me it was 1/16, for people wanting to try this out I would only recommend this size if you are looking to take lung hits. For mouth hits I would definitely go smaller).

I started off by building about 1.5 ohm coils and really liked them. I got comfortable with my building after a few badddd failed attempts, and recently just picked up some different gauge kanthal wire to get a little lower ohm reading.

I got down to 1.06 (at least thats what it says on my ohm reader) and its GREAT! I don't see the point in going much lower unless you are trying to waste as much juice as possible and kill your battery.

I just have read about all the dangers of sub ohm vaping and I wanted to say you don't really need to go to .3 ohms to get a good amount of vapor.

I have no kick in my mech mod, I don't use pure VG for juice, and I have a $10 rda and its a freaking steam machine.

Thought I would share my results especially to the people who are wanting to get into rdas!!!!

 

[emus]

Dense warm vapor emissions from low resistance coils provides me a satisfactory warm smooth throat hit with zero nic.
All friendly vapers should practice battery safety for safety reasons.

 

[*deleon517*]

i totally agree that sub ohm'ing isnt necessary, but on that note my current favorite build is .8ohm's on a trident clone with a k100. I have a vg intolerance so my juice is higher pg and it can still keep pace with those wasting juice at .3ohm with no taste to their juice.

 

[tj99959]

Is sub ohm really necessary??

Not anymore.
A year ago it was about the only option if you wanted the cloud. Today we know a lot more about what can be done with coils, and sub ohm is going the way of stacked batteries into the foot notes of vaping history.

 

[2coils]

IMO sub ohming is a completely different vape. I do not sub ohm tho I have tried at a vape shop. To each their own, My only concern is that shops and vapers practice and respect safety and know what they are doing!

 

[emus]

If sub-ohm and nic is banned I can still get satisfactory warm smooth zero nic TH with super efficient IGO-F at 1.2 ohms (3.7v). Perhaps due to super small chamber and good aerodynamics under the hood. IGO-F mouth lung clouds are good w/ stock air hole. Pretty easy on batt but IGO-F is a heavy drinker w/ my cotton wicks. Heavy drinker is a cheap date w/ zero nic DIY juice.

Pulse G has small chamber but is no match for IGO-F. Perhaps the excess Pulse G mass is a factor? Perhaps Pulse G has worse aerodynamics?

Perfectly tuned sub-ohm dual coil Aqua clone can compete w/ supra-ohm IGO-F; hardly a fair weight class competition yet IGO-F is still competitive.
IGO-F crushes single coil aqua; same build 1.2 ohm coil in both.
IGO-F easy to tune but aqua is finicky.

YMMV.

 

[DasBluCig]

Not anymore.
A year ago it was about the only option if you wanted the cloud. Today we know a lot more about what can be done with coils, and sub ohm is going the way of stacked batteries into the foot notes of vaping history.

This!! ^ ^ ^
The lowest I've gone is 1.2 in my RM2 on my Reo Grand....
If there's better flavor/TH/warmth to be had with sub-ohm.....so be it - but for me....I've found MY "sweet spot"!!
There are those who like to experiment and push the envelope...and do it SAFELY!!!
To those folks I say......Good luck, have fun.......and STAY SAFE!!
Happy (vaping) Trails!

 

[Cuando]

1.2 is perfect for me, too. Absolutely perfect. I sub ohmed for a while, but find 1.2 to be perfect with a single coil. In all reality, I need nothing else, ever, but an RDA at 1.2. Of course I'll still buy and experiment with other devices, but I have at least found something that absolutely works just as I need.

 

[pr0v8ping]

Its all preference but sub ohm is not necessary really. Good vape and taste as well as clouds can be achieved with out going low in ohms... It really is all about safety when you do sub ohms. I enjoy vaping at 1.2-1.5 ohms.

 

[suspectK]

I didn't find it necessary, until I started using deciohm coils... Waiting for a DNA30 chip, so I can have a consistent vape close to those power levels, actually higher power levels with most of my builds, and I would love to get that same performance with high resistance coils.

 

[emus]

Good to see a lot of 1.2 ohm coil fans here.

1.2 ohms is my favorite as well but I still like to play w/ my 0.5 ohm cloud machine for kicks.

If I had to choose I'd pick 3/32" 1.2 ohm twisted 30GA kanthal w/ cotton ball wick.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

I'm perfectly contented with a 1.2 ohm micro with cotton in just about anything (any number of genny's, kayfun, etc.). On top of a good regulated device (notice I didn't say the 'p' word?), it's a very quality vape.

+1 for not needing subohm

 

[Stosh]

I would say sub ohm is absolutely not necessary. I generally vape at ~2.0Ω +/- 0.5Ω, get good flavor and plenty of vapor. The posts I see frequently with sub ohm, and in reference to various devices is "but the flavor is outstanding" or "the flavor is muted"....what a crock....

If you vape any device at any resistance, at any voltage / wattage, the "flavor" is going to depend on the amount of e-liquid vaporized, and the % of flavoring in said liquid. If a device or resistance or voltage vaporizes 0.001mL per hour, or 0.01 mL per hour, or 0.1 mL per hour, and in sub ohm 10.0 mL, and all have 10% flavoring, which will vaporize the most flavoring components? Easy, the faster you're using up the liquid, the more flavoring you're using up...

The faster, and more of the e-liquid you vaporize will determine how much flavor components and nicotine you vaporize. If you're dying for more flavor do a bit of DIY liquid and add an extra 0.5mL of flavoring, and vape the liquid at the same rate...

 

[John_]

It's not necessary. It's what some people like. Some people would never think of building an RBA below 1 Ohm, I will never build one above 1 Ohm. It's personal preference. Until regulated devices are capable of outputting the wattage sub-ohming gets you there will always be people that prefer sub-ohm coils. More power gives you a denser and warmer vape, some people like it, some don't.

 

[Schwiggiddy]

I love these kinds of threads, but there is something I still don't understand, and it seems to be taken for granted in these conversations.

Most juices I have tried taste burnt over about 10 watts, although some are pretty decent at 15 watts. So why doesn't juice delivered at say 50 watts taste crazy burnt? Any answers appreciated, and not to hijack this thread.

 

[emus]

It's not necessary. It's what some people like. Some people would never think of building an RBA below 1 Ohm, I will never build one above 1 Ohm. It's personal preference. Until regulated devices are capable of outputting the wattage sub-ohming gets you there will always be people that prefer sub-ohm coils. More power gives you a denser and warmer vape, some people like it, some don't.

Well said, but I never say never; almost never.

I'm waiting for efficient topper designs to gain popularity.

Currently some toppers are about as efficient as a 351 V6.

 

[yzer]

Nope, sub-ohm is not necessary for the vast majority of people to enjoy vaping and help quit a dangerous smoking habit.

 

[suspectK]

I love these kinds of threads, but there is something I still don't understand, and it seems to be taken for granted in these conversations.

Most juices I have tried taste burnt over about 10 watts, although some are pretty decent at 15 watts. So why doesn't juice delivered at say 50 watts taste crazy burnt? Any answers appreciated, and not to hijack this thread.

You are burning your liquid because your wick and airflow aren't adequate enough to handle the higher heat..

Until regulated devices are capable of outputting the wattage sub-ohming gets you there will always be people that prefer sub-ohm coils. More power gives you a denser and warmer vape, some people like it, some don't.

Yeah, can't wait for the DNA50...but by then batteries will be so good, we'll be hearing about milliohm coils...

 

[ACIDXFX]

When I was first thinking about getting into RDAs, I was set to go sub-ohm to get big clouds (I have electronics experience, so I know what is safe and what isn't).

I built my first one and it came out to 1.3 Ohms, and decided to give it a go. Amazing flavor, and more vapor than I could hold in my mouth and lungs combined. Now I have no desire to go into sub-ohm. Just seems unnecessary for my wants and needs.

Probably personal preference more than anything. No need to do it for the average person.

 

[John_]

Yeah, can't wait for the DNA50...but by then batteries will be so good, we'll be hearing about milliohm coils...

The DNA 30 is out. There are mods that are capable of doing 50-100 watts but they're all gargantuan box mods. Find me a mod the size of my nemesis that can do 50-100 watts and I'll listen.