Sorry, I couldn't tell you that Cinammon Bun tastes like a cinnamon bun. There are so many variations of the bun, you know? I did vape it and it hinted to me, rather than boldly spoke. I think you're trying to nail down something that is vacuous.
Is taste really subjective?
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I believe the way we have "fried" our taste buds plays a big role too. I just went through 2 - 3 weeks of my taste buds going haywire. I couldn't tell from one minute to the next what any carto would taste like. The odd thing is that my taste in foods was constant. That didn't fluctuate at all.
I tried caramel e-juice from two different vendors (before I found V4L) and couldn't stand them. I tried RY4 cartos and couldn't stand those either. Now, finally the CM Frap cartos are tasting pretty good.
There are a lot of flavors that I'm going to have to revisit to see how they've changed FOR ME.
I tried caramel e-juice from two different vendors (before I found V4L) and couldn't stand them. I tried RY4 cartos and couldn't stand those either. Now, finally the CM Frap cartos are tasting pretty good.
There are a lot of flavors that I'm going to have to revisit to see how they've changed FOR ME.
That's because it's an actual steak! There's no actual cinnamon roll in the carts.
It's a flavor being recreated in a PG Base with Nicotine and artificial flavoring based on someone's opinion of what it should taste like.
Who knows what flavors people would pick out if you tried the same artificial recreation with a steak.
If you can't taste cin roll, I believe you. If I had a flavor I didn't think tasted as what it was advertised to be, I'd tell you. So far, that hasn't happened. For me: Pear tastes like pear, peach tastes like peach, peach cobbler tastes like peach cobbler (and it is different than peach)...etc...
I can't tell you what my opinion of the cin roll is because my order didn't make it here today...8-o...But if it's really bugging you, you may just have to eat a cinnamon roll and try a different flavor to vape.
Taste is just that---taste, IMHO. I can cook what I believe to be the worlds best Cornish Game Hen and have 7 people at the dinner table and get 7 different thoughts on what they tasted. Not everyones taste buds are at the same place and time as the next persons. I have found that you must find the aroma, warmth, and feel that appeals to you as an individual. As you read the reviews on different flavors that you have tried and they are close to what you felt about that flavor, then you can be assured that person's taste buds are close to yours. And watch the reviews they give.
Also, your tastes change as the day goes by. It depends on what has been (or not) in yyour mouth. A cola, coffee, tuna, chicken or nothing at all.
I have found that I prefer a deep, dark and warm taste and a sweet taste. No light fruity taste, no overly marshmellow taste. I do like a smokey tobacco taste, also.
Make a spreadsheet and keep up with your thoughts and tastebuds. What you eat,drink while vapeing has a huge play on what you taste when you vape.
Also, your tastes change as the day goes by. It depends on what has been (or not) in yyour mouth. A cola, coffee, tuna, chicken or nothing at all.
I have found that I prefer a deep, dark and warm taste and a sweet taste. No light fruity taste, no overly marshmellow taste. I do like a smokey tobacco taste, also.
Make a spreadsheet and keep up with your thoughts and tastebuds. What you eat,drink while vapeing has a huge play on what you taste when you vape.
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>> What your saying sounds good in a text book but doesnt really make sense to me.
[shrug] I'll surrender it to you. I wouldn't know anything about business or applied problem solving. I'm just buried in my textbooks. [I almost managed to write that with a straight face too...]
[shrug] I'll surrender it to you. I wouldn't know anything about business or applied problem solving. I'm just buried in my textbooks. [I almost managed to write that with a straight face too...]
I have to point out that the liquids are mixed by the liquid manufacturer, and then used to fill both the carts and bottles. They are not mixed from separate components just before filling carts, like the OP suggests. ANd if it were a mixing problem, so some carts had more of one flavor component than another, then you would find that while some carts would taste more of cinnamon and some more of roll, you would also find that different people tasting the same cart would agree which component was stronger. That's not the case, the same cart tastes like cinnamon to one person, and like a roll to another.
Our tastes are very subjective. We will never all agree absolutely on flavors, and we shouldn't expect to.
Our tastes are very subjective. We will never all agree absolutely on flavors, and we shouldn't expect to.
OK, I just got the cinnamon roll out and I am trying not to be reactionary - in so far as vaping and thinking "does this taste like a cinnamon roll" can be projectionless - but I think it tastes like a cinnamon roll. I do taste the roll more once it warms up, but I absolutely still taste the cinnamon. It's stronger than the pinwheels pictured, but I didn't really like the pinwheels. One of the biggest reasons it tastes like a cinnamon roll, to me, I think, is because of the aroma in my nose while I'm inhaling. And as it gets warmer, I get more of the sense of the roll. When its cooler, it's more like red hots... or raw cinnamon roll.
Nonetheless, I really like it.
Now... the ice cream sundae, that's another story... growing on me, but maybe I didn't rinse my carts out well enough. Only got the juice. It's nice to find a couple I'm not crazy about. I'm vaping a bit much!
Nonetheless, I really like it.
Now... the ice cream sundae, that's another story... growing on me, but maybe I didn't rinse my carts out well enough. Only got the juice. It's nice to find a couple I'm not crazy about. I'm vaping a bit much!
Ironic that people have different opinions on whether taste is subjective or not...hehehe
The fact that smoking hinders your tastebuds its hard to understand why people think its not subjective. let along no two people are alike everyone has different tastes and although many will have similar likes and dislikes everyone is different.
Please don't subject me to the subjectivity of your irony... And I write that purely objectively, which I hope you don't object to such objects too strongly.
I agree with the OP 100%. The phrase "taste is subjective" is something that gets thrown around way too much on this forum. Taste may be subjective however as the OP said if many people are tasting something completely different there is probably something wrong with the flavor of the product.
Example: While how I taste Dr. Pepper is subjective to me and the way another tastes Dr. Pepper is subjective to them we both still taste Dr. Pepper the way it tastes to us because we are both drinking Dr. Pepper. If I opened a can of Dr. Pepper and it tasted like Mt. Dew this is not subjective as I know what Dr. Pepper tastes like to me. If it tastes like Mt. Dew then there is probably something wrong with the Dr. Pepper.
Example: While how I taste Dr. Pepper is subjective to me and the way another tastes Dr. Pepper is subjective to them we both still taste Dr. Pepper the way it tastes to us because we are both drinking Dr. Pepper. If I opened a can of Dr. Pepper and it tasted like Mt. Dew this is not subjective as I know what Dr. Pepper tastes like to me. If it tastes like Mt. Dew then there is probably something wrong with the Dr. Pepper.
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Unfortunately, repeated COMMERCIAL studies don't jive with that. If I put Code in a Dr. Pepper can, the vast majority of people will taste a somewhat misflavored Dr. Pepper. (An illustration. Studies primarily seem to be done with fruit, but massive amounts of research have gone into can coloration, for example, and how the can color and logo "effect" the taste)
Note you said they taste "misflavored" Dr.Pepper because they are not actually drinking Dr. Pepper. What you are saying actually could be why some people think they are tasting something similar to the flavor of a cinnamon roll even though the flavor might not actually taste like a cinnamon roll, because it is labeled as such.
I understand what you are saying H3D. Although , if what you're saying is true, then why when both my fiance and I tried the RY4 he tasted caramel and loves it and I tasted black liquorice and hate it? He swears he does not taste any black liqourice and I definately do!
Now we both no what caramel tastes like and also black liqourice so why are we tasting 2 different things from the same cart??
Because IMO tastes is subjective!
Now we both no what caramel tastes like and also black liqourice so why are we tasting 2 different things from the same cart??
Because IMO tastes is subjective!
Absolutely. It cuts both ways. In fact, everything tastes like chicken...
But you can't have one side and not the other. You can't say that the people that agree the flavor is what it states are experiencing it subjectively, but those that don't are objective. Can't have that cake and eat it too. It's either a subjective experience or its not. And the commercial and scientific studies near universally say it is. I say "near universally" simply because, although I've not been able to find one in the journal searches I've done, at least one must differ. Heck, some people still believe the earth is flat, carried on the back of a giant tortoise, and the sun revolves around us...
But you can't have one side and not the other. You can't say that the people that agree the flavor is what it states are experiencing it subjectively, but those that don't are objective. Can't have that cake and eat it too. It's either a subjective experience or its not. And the commercial and scientific studies near universally say it is. I say "near universally" simply because, although I've not been able to find one in the journal searches I've done, at least one must differ. Heck, some people still believe the earth is flat, carried on the back of a giant tortoise, and the sun revolves around us...
NOW the question is if everyone gets a mislabeled cart like lets say peanut butter carto with grapefruit liquid.... does the majority rule out subjectivity? or is it just a bunch of people with the same subjective taste, because one thinks it tastes like redbullz?Absolutely. It cuts both ways. In fact, everything tastes like chicken...
But you can't have one side and not the other. You can't say that the people that agree the flavor is what it states are experiencing it subjectively, but those that don't are objective. Can't have that cake and eat it too. It's either a subjective experience or its not. And the commercial and scientific studies near universally say it is. I say "near universally" simply because, although I've not been able to find one in the journal searches I've done, at least one must differ. Heck, some people still believe the earth is flat, carried on the back of a giant tortoise, and the sun revolves around us...
Because neither of you are tasting caramel or black licorice, you are both tasting RY4. And how RY4 tastes to you is subjective. Now if you order a new pack of RY4 cartomizers and they taste like blueberry there would probably be something wrong with the flavor of that cartomizer.
I have a bottle of Cappuccino liquid here. I love it. However, there are days when I try vaping it (same bottle same type of pv) and it has no taste other than sweetness at all. Other days, I can taste the full flavored coffee and chocolate, just like the cartomizers taste. This is intermittent.
I don't know why this happens to me, but it does. I'm off cigs completely for 3 months now and had very few cigs (about 2 a day) in the month leading up to that.
Food and drink tastes completely normal to me, so why does my vaping produce results like this? I don't think anyone knows, really, on a scientific basis.
This is not the only flavor this has happened to me with, ice cream sundae is the other one that I noticed. I've been vaping these two for quite a while now, juice out of the bottles. Maybe it's time for me to change my flavors in the juice. This is when using my mod at 3.7 or 6V with this juice.
I don't know why this happens to me, but it does. I'm off cigs completely for 3 months now and had very few cigs (about 2 a day) in the month leading up to that.
Food and drink tastes completely normal to me, so why does my vaping produce results like this? I don't think anyone knows, really, on a scientific basis.
This is not the only flavor this has happened to me with, ice cream sundae is the other one that I noticed. I've been vaping these two for quite a while now, juice out of the bottles. Maybe it's time for me to change my flavors in the juice. This is when using my mod at 3.7 or 6V with this juice.
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