Is TC pointless?

[kiba]

I like the science in TC but haven't tried it, my Odessey kit came with a nickel coil and I'm not gonna vape on nickel coils. I want to see studies on how much nickel is released in the vape first

Technically any of the metals *should* be safe, since our devices don't have anything near the power necessary to heat these materials to the temps where they leech and form oxide. (while wet anyway) using TC further limits that.

That said, I don't use them, I like to give my wires a quick dry burn sometimes when I'm short on time, and just quickly pull some fresh cotton through... but according to Dr. Farsalinos, we shouldn't even do that with kanthal. I'm assuming SS 430 is safe though.

 

[samuels]

I like to give my wires a quick dry burn sometimes when I'm short on time, and just quickly pull some fresh cotton through... but according to Dr. Farsalinos, we shouldn't even do that with kanthal.

I heard that too quite a while back.. he's a doc not a metallurgist tho. XD

 

[David Wolf]

Technically any of the metals *should* be safe, since our devices don't have anything near the power necessary to heat these materials to the temps where they leech and form oxide. (while wet anyway) using TC further limits that.

That said, I don't use them, I like to give my wires a quick dry burn sometimes when I'm short on time, and just quickly pull some fresh cotton through... but according to Dr. Farsalinos, we shouldn't even do that with kanthal. I'm assuming SS 430 is safe though.

I've heard many say that unfortunately Its not accurate. I've read studies that measured small amounts of various metals released in vaping. It's no different with cookware by the way, you don't have to reach high temperatures if you're cooking certain liquids like tomato based soup or paste for metals from the cookware to be released, supposedly safe levels haha.
Yes I've read what Dr F has said about dry burning and yet I do that as well though I do keep the time short doing it.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

One of the great myths about Ni200 is the nickel carbonyl issue. One of the most toxic substances known to man but only produced under extreme conditions. If it were a problem for vaping, there would be corpses clutching TC mods all over the place by now. Also worth remembering the primary use of kanthal (and the reason it started being used in vaping I guess) is that it is heater wire - used in toasters etc. Dry burnt on a daily basis. I dont recollect having to change the heater element on my toaster recently (ie ever..). Same BS with Ti. You can generate TiO2 but its more carelessness if you do and, frankly, there isnt a great deal of evidence that even that is really hugely harmful. Its in toothpaste and more relevant, household paint...anyone who has sanded down a freshly painted white wall has breathed in more TiO2 particles than you would ever get from vaping. The advantage of dry-burnt kanthal, and Ti is that they are covered with a layer of oxide (Ti2O3 and TiO in the case of titanium) which is chemically inert. Ti metal is toxic but the oxidation is why it can be used in implants etc! Cookware issues mainly stem from use of aluminium i think which is attacked by acids during cooking.
Anyway, we all need to be careful but we also have to keep things in perspective - nothing we do is anything near as dangerous as cigarette smoke!!!!

(Steps down from soap box and retires to bed)

 

[Falco78]

I love the vape experience I get with SS316L on my RX200 using TC

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